[心得] 铸铁锅STAUB含铅,LC含镉问题

楼主: IamMsn (Alice)   2014-10-24 03:21:58
铸铁锅还是能用啦! 不然早就全球禁卖了~~~
美国加州对食品产品检验的标准,远远高于欧盟及美国 FDA。
如果你非常龟毛,“购买前”来关心一下高价铸铁锅含铅含镉问题:
(一) 2006 诉讼:
MATEEL ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE FOUNDATION 为了公益告 STAUB 及其零售商,
贩售有致癌风险的含铅厨具(上盖把手含铅),结论就是不合加州标准的产品都需警示。
认真魔人请进,诉讼原文:
http://oag.ca.gov/system/files/prop65/settlements/2006-00543S840.pdf
(二)目前不符合加州标准的商品应有下列标示:
California Proposition 65 Warning
This product contains brass, which includes a very small amount of lead, a
chemical known to the state of California to cause cancer or birth defects,
or other reproductive harm.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=3234041
(三)让我们看看目前市面上的警示:
Staub® Black Mini Round Cocotte @ Sur La Table Store
看来还是没有“全数”依严格的加州标准重生产,都 6 年拉!
http://www.surlatable.com/product/PRO-161414/Staub+Black+Mini+Round+Cocotte
Staub® Black Mini Round Cocotte @ Williams Sonama Store
相同的产品在另一家店却没有警示,都卖 6 年是有可能为改善后的新货吗(?)
http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/staub-mini-round-cocotte-set/
参见文末 [注]===>>这是我还感到些许疑惑的部分
Amazon 警示有够难找,在 Product Details 第五行!
http://www.amazon.com/Staub-Quart-Round-Cocotte-Black/dp/B000AXQADI
===以上是确定的官方资讯,以下网友 2008 讨论(不一定为事实)===
blondelle 网友的文字重点:
加州检验标准超严,高过欧盟美国 FDA,
一般检验标准的10 倍以下的含量才能符合加州标准。
LC 没铅但有使用镉来为锅身外层彩色涂装增色。
STAUB“ 把手有铅”&“外层彩色涂装有镉” (粗略看诉讼原文好像只有写把手含铅),
2008的讨论说将在六个月内生产合于加州标准的产品。
The big difference is that Le Creuset cookware complies with the California
Proposition 65 which is the most rigid standard in the world for these
substances. Staub cookware does not, and has that warning on just about all
it's cookware on Amazon. Here is the full answer from their website:
Q: Is Le Creuset lead and cadmium free(无铅无镉)?
A: Cadmium and lead are two elements under strict control in the cookware
industry. Our position today for the entire production process is to be in
compliance with California Proposal 65 which is the most rigid standard in
the world for these elements (approx. 10 times lower than "acceptable"
limits).
( LC 无铅,锅身外层彩色涂装有镉 )
Lead is NOT used in our recipes and for cadmium a special anti-acid
enamel fritt is used which will not release the cadmium pigment during
cooking. Cadmium is used for coloration purposes in achieving bright exterior
colors such as Flame and Cherry. The interior enamel which makes contact with
food is either sand, white, or black.
( STAUB 把手有铅,锅身外层彩色涂装有镉 )
Staub does have lead in it's brass handles and in their enamels.
They will be reformulated in about 6 months I was told to comply with
Proposition 65. If I would have know that I wouldn't have bought them.
ALL the colors have the proposition 65 warning on the product page on Amazon,
not just the blue. Staub's yellows, reds and oranges also contain cadmium.
这讨论串有蛮多资讯 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/469551
((((((((( 购买时特别注意该款有没 Warning 。))))))))))
花大钱买有“微乎其微致癌可能成分”的锅子来用??
对一个 $150~400镁的锅的期待可不只如此欧~~
[注]
Williams Sonoma 同款虽没标 Warning,但 FAQ 里确实有在关注
http://www.williams-sonoma.com/customer-service/faq.html
因此官网没标的可能就真的符合加州标准欧!(不然抓到被告要赔钱)
不过同款 Amazon 与其他网站交叉比对下常常一个有标一个没标咧!
下面提到的 Riedel 酒杯含铅,我一向拒用,因为酒杯是直接接触酸性液体。
至于锅子外面的成分(锅身外层彩色涂装有镉 把手含铅),
致癌影响比起酒杯小很多~~应该啦!!!
What is California Proposition 65, and how does it apply to the items you sell?
All of our dinnerware, glassware and other items used for serving food are
tested to ensure that they meet FDA and California Proposition 65
requirements for lead and cadmium.
Like most fine porcelain dinnerware and crystal glasses, some of our Pickard
dinnerware, Raynaud dinnerware, Riedel glassware and Waterford stemware are
made using lead. In accordance with Proposition 65, we issue the following
warning to our California customers: "Use of this product will expose you to
lead and/or cadmium, chemicals known to the State of California to cause
birth defects or other reproductive harm."
In accordance with Proposition 65, when a ceramic glaze meets FDA standards
but fails to meet the standards of Proposition 65, we issue the following
warning to our California customers: "The materials used as colored
decorations on the exterior of this product contain lead, a chemical known to
the State of California to cause birth defects or other reproductive harm."
If the interior or pouring lip of a serving vessel is finished with a glaze
that contains lead, we issue the following warning: "Use of this product will
expose you to lead and/or cadmium, chemicals known to the State of California
to cause birth defects or other reproductive harm."
作者: happyennovy (喵)   2014-10-24 07:37:00
刚去查了美国的 stuab 网站, 他们网站已经更新为内层鍅瑯Cadmium Free / Lead Free / PFOA Free / PTFEfree 了, 害我担心了一下, 我的锅全部都是 Staub 的不过是说我去年去德国也是看到 Staub 在贩售, 通过欧盟的标准应该还算安全吧?补充一下, 相关的讨论和诉讼好像2008就开始了, staub在2009下半年就更新他们的网页了
作者: tatsumi (天天开心身体健康)   2014-10-24 09:12:00
天啊.....如果有这样的疑虑 当年我也不会买
作者: vicario837 (维嘉里欧)   2014-10-24 09:33:00
这些锅子都不是在加州做的 也不是只在加州卖 厂商不积极作为也看得出来 只能说如果担心 某些颜色不要买虽然也不会直接碰触到食物
作者: happyennovy (喵)   2014-10-24 09:44:00
嗯嗯, 谢谢你提出问题, 的确通路有当年没卖完的库存我自己是比起美国 FDA和加州政府, 更相信欧盟的标准所以会继续使用抱歉, 我没讲清楚, 我是看其他论坛, 有人质疑2008前的珐瑯涂层也有问题, 我自己是相信欧盟的标准至于如果是外面涂层我就完全不担心... 自己学化学的化学键要打断没那么简单XD我还在找有没有2008前欧洲的相关讨论来看, 这两个牌子的锅子在欧洲卖那么久了, 有问题应该在欧洲被告到倒了... 如果要安全应该医用级不锈钢锅最安全吧...
作者: sandyQQ (-)   2014-10-24 10:58:00
我用LC 都是外层含镉 不晓得进烤箱会不会有影响 常烤蛋糕
作者: happyennovy (喵)   2014-10-24 11:06:00
法国论坛有人说他两个牌子都有寄信问珐瑯是否含镉和铅, 但是都没回应... 如果有看到新的讨论再PO上来
作者: ooQss (吃喝拉撒~)   2014-10-24 11:51:00
难得的好文,感谢!
作者: chataulait (牛奶猫)   2014-10-24 12:40:00
推!谢谢整理资讯!这篇的资料很完整,比自己慢慢追零碎的英文新闻还清楚得多
作者: kruz (路人)   2014-10-24 13:11:00
一堆东西都有prop65 warning..
作者: SuperSheepy (sheep)   2014-10-24 13:32:00
美国跟欧洲标准不同 不能说比较相信哪个吧 美国没有禁用的一些食物色素(致癌物质)欧盟都先禁用了 差别在此
作者: happyennovy (喵)   2014-10-24 13:38:00
看个人想法, 欧盟还禁了很多添加物, 然后对抗生素的标准比美国严格很多, 所以美国肉类要输往欧洲遇到很大的困难, 大家自由心证
作者: cloudstr (ハートレス)   2014-10-24 20:45:00
看来问题是出在珐瑯吧 还好我的荷兰锅没事
作者: malisse74 (沙漠中的冰淇淋)   2014-10-24 22:27:00
文里面写的不是珐瑯吧 是外面的彩色涂装 别吓人
作者: NAHAy (NAHAy)   2014-10-25 00:27:00
作者: SURREALTMR (neil)   2014-10-25 08:02:00
推原PO.不知有没有第三品牌选择.这二牌几乎占了全部
作者: kinny79912 (亚连沃克)   2014-10-25 14:44:00
我有两个lc有小瑕疵 锅底染到一点点 比米粒还小的外面 彩色珐瑯的颜色不就悲剧了!?
作者: cloudstr (ハートレス)   2014-10-25 20:45:00
外面涂层不就是珐瑯?
作者: kinny79912 (亚连沃克)   2014-10-25 21:49:00
我是锅内的黑涂层染到外面的橘涂层
作者: march315 (lincecum rocks)   2014-10-28 18:20:00
加州标准随便看看就好。几乎什么东西在加州都有毒....

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