Re: [讨论] 路德对反律主义的回应

楼主: pinjose (jose)   2018-08-21 06:54:21
我们看到th可以如此不负法律责任及良心责任的造谣
造完一个谣又一个,我们则是要不断揪出他如何造谣,然后他拍拍屁股就不认
※ 引述《theologe (表达你我的信仰~)》之铭言:
: 延续#1RUOXdna推文处tf建议的“反律主义”探讨:
: 这篇摘要介绍了那时路德处理的争论,比较好懂一点
: https://lutheranreformation.org/history/the-antinomian-disputations/
: 有些句子我真的看到板上两造辩论的影子!
: "Agricola and the Antinomians did not deny the presence of sin in the life o
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: the Christian. However, they saw the Law as a dead letter, which by no means
: could bring about repentance. Repentance is brought about by the work of the
: Holy Spirit, as Jesus teaches in John 14-16, and the antinomians operated
: with the idea that the Holy Spirit did not work through the Law. Instead,
: they believed that the Holy Spirit operates only in the Gospel. Therefore,
: the preaching of the crucified Christ alone would lead to true repentance.
: Repentance from sin was not about recognizing that one had violated the Law
: but that one had done harm to the Son of Man, who laid down His life for the
: salvation of sinners."
: 这段对反律主义论点的描绘,跟板上会所弟兄表述的几乎一致。
几乎一致?
我们说法是律法暴露人的罪请问是楼上还是楼下说法?
我们说法是律法使人知道不在灵中,需要转回灵里是楼上还是楼下说法?
我们可以看见th如何不断一个谎言又一个谎言
: 并非罪大恶极,甚至颇有说服力,但就是怪怪的。
: 至于路德怎么回应?
: "For Luther, if one would lose the proclamation of the Law, one would also
: lose the sweet gospel which sets sinners free from condemnation. He said, “
: Yet it is safest to turn to a middle road, to turn too much neither to the
: right nor to the left. For both are dangerous, and, as I said already, for
: this reason also, the office of the word was instituted, that we might teach
: both, that is, the Law and the Gospel. The one cannot properly be taught or
: dealt with safely without the other…So here too one must divide well, lest
: only one part be taught in the churches—either fear and sorrow or
: consolation and joy—but both at the same time.”[4] Both Law and Gospel are
: necessary for repentance: the Law which works contrition (sorrow for sin) an
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: the Gospel which works faith in the promise of forgiveness.
: Is there a need for the preaching of the Law? Should pastors proclaim the La
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: in their sermons? Does the Law play a role in repentance? Yes. “The Law
: reveals the guilt of sin And makes us conscience-stricken; But then the
: Gospel enters in The sinful soul to quicken.”[5] As we remain in the fallen
: flesh we will have need for God’s holy Law, not as a means to make ourselve
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: righteous but in order that we take hold of the depth of Christ’s saving
: work for us, delivered in the Gospel message of forgiveness."
: 其他的部份请再自行阅读连结全文。
作者: mapuff (酒窝)   2018-08-21 07:36:00
难怪只放英文不给中文,是因为大部分人懒得细看吗?只放英文其实没关系,但解读要正确才行。
作者: tfnop (网管测试中)   2018-08-21 07:43:00
http://www.davidservant.com/other_languages/chinese/traditional/ggd/05-2/建议看律法主义及救恩公式

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