※ 引述《ckbdfrst (ckbdfrst)》之铭言：
: 例如蒙古语对“大元”的蒙古语意思解释“广阔的”
: Daion(Dayan)
: 其余往大的说，元清国号在蒙满语里是什么由来可没什么问题
这是有问题的
dayan或者daion在过去的蒙古语并没有广阔的意思
我是不知道这广阔的意思是出自哪 可以问出自何典吗?
这是我的推测 我虽然不懂蒙古文 但我知道的确有蒙古学者在研究"dayan"的意思
我认为dayan或者daion在蒙古语中就是汉译大元的意思 而不是广阔 的反证
是因为现在蒙古学者也在研究汉字"元"本身的意义
因为对蒙古人来说 dayan是个音译词
他们考证认为dayan可能是蓝色之意 所以大元大蒙古国代表着蓝色大蒙古的意思
也就是说 他们解释汉字"元" 代表的不只是大哉乾元
还表示具有蓝色的意味 虽然我不知道这是怎考证的 但显然这跟广阔的意思相差很远
http://maral-books.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Yuan.pdf
如果蒙古学者并不认为dayan是广阔 而是蓝色的意味 那外国学者呢?
外国学者也是认为大元就是个汉字词 有争议的是大元国号的脚色
https://muse.jhu.edu/article/652955
From the above discussion we can draw the conclusion that the Mongols at that
time regarded Da Yuan and Yeke Mongγol Ulus as the same, both of which, of
course, denote not just the realm of Qubilai but the entire Mongol Empire.
Obviously the Mongol name of the empire was phonetically too long to be
transcribed into Chinese adequately, so they introduced at first Da Menggu
Guo, which faithfully rendered its meaning; however, since it is made of four
characters, which was quite unprecedented, they changed it into Da Chao, "the
Great Dyansty." It had two characters but still conveyed the essence of the
original meaning. Then, in 1272, Qubilai, at the recommendation of Liu
Bingzhong, adopted a more elegant expression, Da Yuan.
另外清朝国号问题是新清史的人(欧立德吗? 忘了)自己满文搞错
中正大学的甘德星教授已经呛过一遍 总之大清就是个汉文名词不是什战士国