[讨论] 代贴回应铁三角[老鱼在玩文字游戏]的指

楼主: outra (奥特罗)   2016-06-09 20:07:53
回应铁三角[老鱼在玩文字游戏]的指控
铁三角宣称:
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老鱼在玩文字游戏,
复和观是神化观或同归于一论的核心是明显的,
但神化观要谈“如何达成”这件事,所以讲的会比复和观多,
我不认为我简化地讲复和观就是神化观有什么问题,
说“不完全同等”只是更精确地讲,
但不影响复和观是神化观的核心这件事。
这是公然的毁谤!
铁三角自己说:
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→ theologe: 法理当然是称义,正教神学不是偏生机我输你 06/08 15:38
→ theologe: 复和就是神化观啦 06/08 15:38
推 theologe: 了解了,(算倪李吗?)把“和好”摆在法理里面,嗯嗯, 06/08 17:47
→ theologe: 这点跟我是有差异的。主要我的架构是从罪论推回来救恩论 06/08 17:48
→ theologe: ,故“和好”不会是法理层面(处理Avon),而一定是处理 06/08 17:49
→ theologe: Pesha。而Pesha我归为爱任纽或东方教父的复和观去管, 06/08 17:50
明显的,他在这里首先宣称"复和就是神化观啦",并且拖出"我归为爱任纽或东方教父的复
和观去管",把爱任纽当作他的擦屁股纸.后面他扯[同归与一]的部分我就略过了.
这也是为什么我在[和好=成神吗?请教神学家!]中直接戳破他的伪面具,说:"神学家东拉
西扯的神功相信大家都非常的憎恶。这次,他为了标榜自己的神功盖世,竟然
把爱任纽拖出来做他的擦屁股纸,这种侮辱先人的行为太过分了。"
所以,我引用了三处爱任纽的话,并提出3个问题要铁三角回答:
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1- 上面三段的内容是什么?
2- 上面三段对于【和好(reconciliation)】的定义是什么?
3- 上面三段有没有说【和好=神化】?
结果,铁三角在[[问题] 不了解会所为什么把和好摆在法理]一文中,装疯卖傻,不谈爱任纽
,却[装呆]+[砲打]聚会所根据传统基督教神学(包括爱任纽)的做法,把和好归于[称义]下
面的做法.因此,铁三角才是真正[玩弄文字游戏]的无赖!
当然,铁三角这种无耻+无赖的作法大家都看得很清楚了,也不希奇.这种做法,除了一个[贱
]字外,实在找不到更好的形容词!
在请教铁嘴铁三角
下面这段话是爱任纽的原话:
2.
But now the case stands thus, that the Word has saved that which really was [c
reated, viz.,] humanity which had perished, effecting by means of Himself that
communion which should be held with it, and seeking out its salvation. But th
e thing which had perished possessed flesh and blood. For the Lord, taking dus
t from the earth, moulded man; and it was upon his behalf that all the dispens
ation of the Lord’s advent took place. He had Himself, therefore, flesh and b
lood, recapitulating in Himself not a certain other, but that original handiwo
rk of the Father, seeking out that thing which had perished. And for this caus
e the apostle, in the Epistle to the Colossians, says, “And though ye were fo
rmerly alienated, and enemies to His knowledge by evil works, yet now ye have
been 【reconciled】 in the body of His flesh, through His death, to present yo
urselves holy and chaste, and without fault in His sight.”4567 He says, “Ye
have been 【reconciled】 in the body of His flesh,” because the righteous fle
sh has reconciled that lesh which was being kept under bondage in sin, and br
ought it into friendship with God. (pg786)
麻烦您告诉我们:
1- 这段话的内容是什么?
2- 这段话中对[和好]的定义是什么?
3- 这段话中那里有说到[和好就是神化]?
你说:在我的罪论架构中,“法理”就是要处理“不公正”、“不公义”的Avon。
你这种混赖的行为已经是非常的“不公正”、“不公义”!答不出来,就当场切腹给我们看
!
作者: theologe (表达你我的信仰~)   2016-06-09 20:18:00
请问老鱼,复和跟合一不是同一件事吗?神化不是合一吗?
楼主: outra (奥特罗)   2016-06-09 22:15:00
老鱼:问你的牧师去!

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