Re: [讨论] 想台独原因

楼主: n3oanderson (wake up ...)   2014-06-09 15:06:30
有关中日合约及开罗宣言的部份, 底下有些正式的官方文件及新闻, 底下
的时间点都在台北合约过后. 也就是说, 台北合约签了, 不过台湾及澎湖
主权依然不属于中华民国或中华人民共和国. 开罗宣言只是statement of
intention.
建议多看官方文件, 毕竟战争是人家派兵打赢的.
英国官方文件:
filestore.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pdfs/large/cab-129-73.pdf
JURIDICAL ASPECTS OF THE FORMOSA SITUATION
....In the Japanese Peace Treaty of April, 1952, Japan formally
renounced all right, title and claim to Formosa and the Pescadores,
but again this did not operate as a transfer to Chinese sovereignty,
whether to the Chinese People's Republic or to the Chinese
Nationalist authorities. ...
大略意思:
...1952年日本正式放弃所有关于台湾澎湖权利, 但是这并不构成转移成
为中国主权, 不论是中华人民共和国, 或中华民国...
换句话说, 中华民国跟中华人民共和国无台湾澎湖主权.


Sir anthony explained that under the peace treaty of april 1952,
japan formally renounced all right and claim to Formosa and the
Pescadores, but this did not operate as a transfer to chinese
sovereignty, whether to the People's Republic or to the Chinese
Nationalist authorities.
Anthony 说明,1952年日本只正式放弃对台/澎湖所有权利(right), 但这并
不构成主权转移, 不论是中国人民共和国或中华民国.
http://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1977-80v13/d183
美官方文件
时间: December 30, 1978
略译:
国民党官员不断请求(美国官员)承认中华民国对台湾de jure的主权(这应该
表示中华民国没有台湾主权). 国民党官员无法接受美国跟中华民国非官方
(government-to-government basis)的关系因为对国民党官员来说是"生死"
问题. 美国官员答复美国不会变更其立场.
另外美国的一中政策: ... Secretary Kelly 说到 "..美国的一中政策非北
京建议的..." 参考 http://goo.gl/G4g4iq
中国(包括PRC and ROC)没有台湾主权: http://goo.gl/IDMfYP
The Taiwan officials were pre-occupied during the discussions
with one point: Taiwan’s legal status under U.S. law. They
used this point as a surrogate for rearguing our basic
recognition decision and repeatedly asked us to reconsider our
position. I explained that our position could not be changed.
Nevertheless, they repeatedly urged us to recognize “the Republic
of China as de jure, entitled to exercise governing authority in
respect of the territories presently under its control.” In this
way, they argued, they could continue to have
government-to-government relations with the United States. They
said repeatedly, with great emphasis and feeling, that they cannot
accept relations with the United States on other than a
government-to-government basis and that they considered this a matter
of “life and death” importance.
作者: Gnome   2014-06-09 15:19:00
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作者: bugbook (光与闇的消逝之所)   2014-06-09 15:45:00
所以现在国共两者是想合作把这个名不正言不顺的地方给收为己用?
作者: monica0812 (烧烤芋头)   2014-06-09 16:38:00
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作者: anetha (很开心的笑:))   2014-06-09 21:06:00
小夫被胖虎逼到墙角,赫然发现有块大雄掉在地上的金币赶快捡起来跟胖虎说 这个给你 我做你小弟 你给一点好康的吧
作者: fakeimage (假寐)   2014-06-10 01:51:00
最后一段是表示国民党曾想透过获得台湾主权维持邦交?但因为美国不给,国民党才“只能”走一个中国路线?

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