[讨论] 如果 THE SON IS THE FATHER,

楼主: ostracize (bucolic)   2020-10-23 18:35:05
如果 THE SON IS THE FATHER, AND THE SON IS ALSO THE SPIRIT.
请问1. 圣父是否钉在十字架上?请召会人士回应。
请问2. 马可福音1:9~11:那时,耶稣从加利利的拿撒勒来,在约但河里受了约翰的洗。
他从水里一上来,就看见天裂开了,圣灵仿佛鸽子,降在他身上。又有声音从天上来,说
:你是我的爱子,我喜悦你。
上述经文在马太福音与路加福音皆有记载,圣父、圣子、圣灵,三者同时出现又明显有别
。请问召会人士如何解释?
请问3. 约翰福音14:16~17:我要求父,父就另外赐给你们一位保惠师(或作:训慰师;
下同),叫他永远与你们同在,就是真理的圣灵,乃世人不能接受的;因为不见他,也不
认识他。你们却认识他,因他常与你们同在,也要在你们里面。
上述经文说圣子耶稣基督称圣灵保惠师是另外一位。请问召会人士如何解释?
请问4. 马太福音26:39~44:他就稍往前走,俯伏在地,祷告说:我父啊,倘若可行,求
你叫这杯离开我。然而,不要照我的意思,只要照你的意思。来到门徒那里,见他们睡着
了,就对彼得说:怎么样?你们不能同我警醒片时吗?总要警醒祷告,免得入了迷惑。你
们心灵固然愿意,肉体却软弱了。第二次又去祷告说:我父啊,这杯若不能离开我,必要
我喝,就愿你的意旨成全。又来,见他们睡着了,因为他们的眼睛困倦。耶稣又离开他们
去了。第三次祷告,说的话还是与先前一样。
上述经文说圣子耶稣基督向圣父祷告,请问召会人士如何解释?请问召会人士的意思说是
耶稣自己向自己祷告,自言自语吗?
On the Nature of God
"The Son is called the Father; so the Son must be the Father. We must realize
this fact. There are some who say that He is called the Father, but He is not
really the Father. But how could He be called the Father and yet not be the
Father?... In the place where no man can approach Him (I Tim. 6:16), God is
the Father. When He comes forth to manifest Himself, He is the Son. So, a Son
is given, yet His name is called 'The everlasting Father.' This very Son who
has been given to us is the very Father."
Witness Lee, The All-Inclusive Spirit of Christ
(Los Angeles: The Stream Publishers, 1969), pp. 4-5
"...the entire Godhead, the Triune God, became flesh."
Witness Lee, God's New Testament Economy
(Anaheim: Living Stream Ministry, 1986), p. 230
"The traditional explanation of the Trinity is grossly inadequate and borders
on tritheism. When the Spirit of God is joined with us, God is not left
behind, nor does Christ remain on the throne. This is the impression
Christianity gives. They think of the Father as one Person, sending the Son,
another Person, to accomplish redemption, after which the Son sends the
Spirit, yet another Person. The Spirit, in traditional thinking, comes into
the believers, while the Father and Son are left on the throne. When
believers pray, they are taught to bow before the Father and pray in the name
of the Son. To split the Godhead into these separate Persons is not the
revelation of the Bible...."
Witness Lee, Life Messages
(Anaheim: Living Stream Ministry, 1979), p. 164
"THE SON IS THE FATHER, AND THE SON IS ALSO THE SPIRIT.... and the Lord Jesus
who is the Son is also the Eternal Father. Our Lord is the Son, and He is
also the Father. Hallelujah!"
Witness Lee, Concerning the Triune God
(Anaheim: Living Stream Ministry, 1973), pp. 18-19
作者: df31 (DF-31)   2020-10-24 10:05:00
你连【经纶的三一】和【素质三一】都不懂。父不在十字架上,是【经纶三一】的问题好不好。我倒是好奇,当你受浸的时候,你得到的是父,子,还是圣灵?三选一,机会很大的!哈!美国cri就是在这个问题上栽了大跟斗,你还来哦!不过就是想把我们定为圣父受苦说罢了。。。

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