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2017-09-01 15:25:00作者 Xenogeous (非洲大陆) 看板 Christianity
标题 Re: [问题] 我们是神的儿女吗?
时间 Fri Sep 1 00:34:32 2017
所以保罗这里是警告那些牧养教会的领袖们。保罗不算什么
亚波罗也不算什么,更何况是那些分党结派的领袖们。
林前3:17“若有人毁坏神的殿,神必要毁坏那人;
因为神的殿是圣的,这殿就是你们。”
神的殿就是你们这些信徒,也就是教会,毁坏神的殿的人
就是之前提到那些分党结派的牧者们,用禾稭建造教会导致
工程被火烧毁。神必要惩罚这些牧者,让他们如同火里经过一样。
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我有两个问题想请教XE:
1- 您宣称‘所以保罗这里是警告那些‘牧养教会的领袖们’。’
1Co 1:1奉神旨意,蒙召作耶稣基督使徒的保罗,同兄弟所提尼,1Co 1:2写信给在[哥林多神的教会],就是在基督耶稣里成圣、蒙召[作圣徒]的,以及
所有‘在各处求告我主耶稣基督之名的人’。基督是他们的主,也是我们的主。1Co 1:3愿恩惠、平安从神我们的父并主耶稣基督归与你们。
从林前的问候语来看,收信人乃是‘(整个)哥林多教会’,是‘做圣徒’的人,以及‘
在各处求告我主耶稣基督之名的人’。照早期教会的传统,哥林多的‘教会领袖’虽然代
表哥林多教会收信,但是在收到信件后,往往‘必须’在聚会中朗读给哥林多教会‘所有
的信徒’听。因为这是使徒的吩咐,也是当时教会的实行。
2Co 1:1奉神旨意作基督耶稣使徒的保罗和兄弟提摩太,写信给在‘哥林多神的教会’
,并亚该亚遍处的‘众圣徒’。2Co 1:2愿恩惠、平安从神我们的父和主耶稣基督归与你们!
而林后的问候语也是同样的规格。
可见,保罗写这封书信的时候,收信人是‘哥林多全体的圣徒’,包括长老(监督),执事
,和一般信徒。(Php 1:1基督耶稣的仆人保罗和提摩太写信给凡住腓立比、在基督耶
稣里的众圣徒,和诸位监督,诸位执事。可见,保罗是‘平等看待’哥林多教会中的
每一个份子。不知道您根据何处经文‘所以保罗这里是警告那些‘牧养教会的领袖们’’
,而把平信徒排除出去的?
并且,您认为‘。。。之前提到那些分党结派的‘牧者们’’。不知道您根据何处认为只
有‘牧者’参与分党结派的事?而这件事与‘平信徒’无关?
我觉得保罗的‘阶级意识’似乎没有您那么强烈哦?!您似乎认为‘牧者=(或代表)全教会’?
例如,John Gill对林前1:2有一段注释:
[called to be saints]; for though they were chosen to holiness in Christ, and
through sanctification of the Spirit unto salvation, yet before calling were
unholy; though Christ had given himself for them to sanctify and purify them,
yet whilst uncalled were impure; they fell in Adam, and became both guilty
and filthy through his transgression; and by their first birth were unholy
and unclean, and were so in their lives and conversations; nor are any holy
by natural descent: these were not born saints, nor made so by their own free
will, but were become such through the powerful grace of God in the effectual
calling; in which not only desires after holiness, but principles of holiness
were wrought in them; and by which they were called to the practice of
external holiness, or to live an holy life and conversation. And this epistle
is not only inscribed to [these saints at Corinth], but to them,
明显的,John Gill认为哥林多书是写个所有在哥林多的信徒(these saints at Corinth),而不是哥林多的教会领袖(the Leaders of the Church in Corinth)。而根据您的标准,所有哥林多的平信徒都被排除在John Gill在此处所描述的救赎之外了?
2- 您提到‘神的殿’
我想请教,‘神的殿’在此的意义为何?您是否认为‘整个教会’的意思乃是不是‘个别信徒’,不知道出处何在?