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I know I’m preaching to the choir here. I know the horse is dead and buried.
We’ll talk about something else tomorrow, I promise. But, today, I have one
final thought on the MVP discussion, and specifically, about the idea that a
player on a non-playoff team has limited value. As Mark Bauman put it:
今天我想发表一个关于MVP票选争论点的看法
The Angels finished third in the AL West. Without Trout, where would they
have finished? Unless you believe that they would have been 15 games worse
without Trout, the correct answer would still be third.
The Tigers finished first in the AL Central, after a substantial struggle
and a period of underachievement. Their subsequent advance to the World
Series, of course, has no place in this election. But they did manage to make
a push late in the regular season to overtake the White Sox and qualify for
the postseason.
Mark Bauman写到: "天使有没有Trout都是老三 老虎靠着Cabrera才逆转白袜"
This is, for a lot of voters, a big issue. Cabrera’s team made the playoffs,
and they wouldn’t have without him. Trout’s team didn’t make the playoffs,
and they could have not made the playoffs even if he spent the whole year in
the minors. So how valuable could Trout really have been?
简单说 天使有没有Trout都没差 所以Trout的价值如何?
To that question, I’ll ask one of my own – if you really buy into that
argument, how can Trout even appear anywhere on your ballot?
如果你信这套 那Trout怎么还能出现在选票上?
The Tigers won the AL Central by three games. Take away Miguel Cabrera and
they don’t win the division. But, take away Justin Verlander, they don’t
win the division either. Take away Prince Fielder, they don’t win the
division. Take away Austin Jackson, they don’t win the division. Besides
Cabrera, there are at least three Tigers who were clearly worth more than
three wins, and you could make a good case for Max Scherzer and Doug Fister
as well.
老虎拿到Cabrera不会进季后赛 拿掉肥王子不会进季后赛 拿掉Jackson不会进季后赛
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How about on the Yankees? They won their division by two games, and finished
five games ahead of Tampa Bay, the team with the best record that didn’t
qualify for the postseason. Robinson Cano and CC Sabathia were worth five
wins to the Yankees, right? And, if you think defensive metrics are total
bunk, maybe even Jeter was too.
洋基拿掉Cano和CC也不会进季后赛
Same deal with Baltimore and Texas, who just snuck into the last wild card
spot by the same margin as which Detroit won the AL Central. Do we not think
Adam Jones or Matt Wieters were worth at least three wins to the Orioles this
year? How about Adrian Beltre, Josh Hamilton, Yu Darvish, or Matt Harrison –
were they not worth at least three wins apiece to the Rangers?
金莺拿掉Adam Jones/Matt Wieters不会进季后赛
游骑兵拿掉Adrian Beltre/Josh Hamilton/Yu Darvish/Matt Harrison
In every single case, you take them off their team, and the difference is
likely making the playoffs versus not making the playoffs. They were all
excellent players, and without them, their teams probably wouldn’t have made
it to October. Why is Mike Trout more valuable than every single one except
for Cabrera?
所以说 以上球员都比Trout更关键 为什么Trout比这些人都更有价值 除了Cabrera以外?
If a major determining factor in a player’s value is his team’s
qualification for the playoffs, Trout shouldn’t finish in the top 10. There
were a lot of great players who helped carry their teams to the playoffs.
Trout isn’t one of them, and if that’s enough to exclude him from being
most valuable, why isn’t he excluded from being second most valuable? How do
we justify the idea that Trout is less valuable than Cabrera because of the
Tigers playoff status, but still more valuable than Verlander, who is the
reigning AL MVP and had another great season?
如果进季后赛事决定球员价值的关键 那Trout完全不应该出现在前十票选
比Trout更能决定战局的球员多太多了
If our goal is to really identify the “most valuable” player and not the “
best” player, why do we start with a list of the best players, and then only
use a team’s playoff position as a divider, rather than starting with a list
of guys who made the playoffs and then deciding who was the best from that
group?
为什么要从两位球员中 选一位进季后赛的
而非从一群季后赛球员中 选一位最好的?
Is it, perhaps, because we know that a great player on a non-playoff team can
be more valuable than a good player on a playoff team? Isn’t that what we’
re inherently all agreeing to when Trout finishes ahead of Verlander,
Fielder, Cano, Beltre, Hamilton, and the rest?
难道是说 因为我们知道没进季后赛的球员可能比进季后赛的球员更有价值?