Re: [请益] 只会写程式的话该怎么解决素材问题?

楼主: ZMTL (夜风/潇湘 VR板已经开板!)   2023-01-06 11:03:42
※ 引述《ddavid (谎言接线生)》之铭言:
: ※ 引述《googled (15357)》之铭言:
: : 想请问个很鲁的问题
: : 小弟本身只会写程式,一直有个游戏设计的梦想给他圆起来
: : 从以前玩RPG Maker到Unity,一直到最近的Godot
: : 在摸索时总会想到素材的问题不知该怎么解决
: : 本身有找过网络上付费或免费的素材
: : 但都会离自己的需求差那么一些
: : 可能A作者的素材包里面有30%符合自己需求
: : B作者的素材也有40%符合自己的要的内容
: : 可是A跟B的素材风格却不一样
: : 两款素材放在同一款游戏感觉很怪
: : 同样的音乐跟音效的部分也有同样的问题
: : 不知道各位大大都是怎么解决这类问题的?
: : 是到最后干脆自学绘画,还是会直接请一个御用画师量身订造?
: : 或者是不管风格问题,网络上有什么素材符合就买什么资源?
: : 谢谢
: 关于素材运用,同人或独立游戏中有大量运用案例。不过近年我看过最杰出的例
: 2. 其实生在目前这个年代非常幸运,AI 绘图已经有游戏拿来实用化了,花点时间
: 学习咏唱一下,就可以产生一定水准的图片。当然如果要画同一个人物的多张图可能
: 就比较不容易,若有此类要求,就要更有耐心地大量产生 AI 图后仔细筛选更相近的
: 人物图(提升咏唱技术也会有点帮助但还是要靠运气)。
(略)
聊聊这部份,虽然我没正经的游戏制作经验,但也参与过一些课堂专案,
后来还帮某个朋友当猫手用Unity赶过游戏毕制,同时还帮他整理素材,
那时候他的选择是用Unity Store用一部份免费的、去Booth买一些素材、立绘自己画。
但如果是现在,真的可以大部分靠AI,我自己现在是AI绘图板板主,
刚刚偶然点进这个板看到这个议题,刚好可以拿一些现有的例子来讲。
先随手找些例子给大家,我直接贴未放大版的四格图,都可以再出大图。
以下都来自AI绘图服务Midjourney的官方画廊(关键字:UI,icon,video,game,rpg...),
部份是这几天的热门部份是我的书签:
ICON:
“Ui icons, buttons and assets plus a screen concept for a game in the style of
legends of runeterra on a white background, 4K”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/9adbba8b-540c-4b98-bd87-69d4ce9329d5/grid_0.png
“ui elements, frames, buttons, rpg game”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/fd9732cd-d472-48c5-b426-e754d0afe9c1/grid_0.png
“pickaxe, rocks rare gems icon for a rpg game - dark fantasy, rpg,
atmospheric, detailed, intricate, brown and gray, delicate light, circle
shape with rounded corners, pieces of cloth, stone background”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/d13d5f4d-32b5-45fb-b881-9c9aa27fb461/grid_0.png
“Ui icons, buttons and assets plus a screen concept for a game in the style of
legends of runeterra on a white background, 4K”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/9adbba8b-540c-4b98-bd87-69d4ce9329d5/grid_0.png
UI:
“pokemon themed UI UX mobile interface statistics charts infographics sharp
lines vector no text”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/d13ab871-d818-4ef6-b59d-401975377e88/grid_0.png
“Beautiful hq dashboard, design, valleys / mountains, face of norse god /
crows, graphs images and stats, ux/ui”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/f7eec853-c6c6-4032-93ce-2ee0a09f70f5/grid_0.png
“UI for an app that tracks your daily tasks like a fantasy video game skills”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/077b756f-557e-47d1-a469-ab06c91ea868/grid_0.png
“role-playing character sheet, ui/ux”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/1aaba7fb-1d1d-4e08-a2fe-f06314e0dd82/grid_0.png
“interface for a role-playing game set in a fantasy world. The interface
should include elements such as a character stats display, a inventory menu,
and a map of the game world. The style should be inspired by medieval fantasy
art, with a color palette of rich blues, purples, and golds”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/024e5e72-cd4d-4bd4-a6f4-9fd4b3a581ea/grid_0.png
道具素材:
“Sprite sheet with game visuals, game assets, 3D, cinematic lighting,
designed, pc game, steampunk, gray background, intricate detail, 8k,”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/aea2642c-857f-4b48-bdcf-1aecd7f35471/grid_0.png
“Sprite sheet with game visuals, game assets, 3D, cinematic lighting,
designed, pc game, steampunk floor tiles, gray background, intricate detail,
8k,”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/d315fa5e-b7aa-4bdc-bc36-3328b5314a74/grid_0.png
角色:
“cute elf warrior, full body shot, bow and arrows, forest, fantasy, cinematic,
tarot card, anime, kawaii, HD, highly detailed, detailed hands”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/4520cb44-1e51-4c8a-8355-423a60bc038a/grid_0.png
“collection of islamic avatars for a video game,full body ,Disney style”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/ab70a57c-fce6-41d1-9150-8c4df2146899/grid_0.png
“In the Dungeons & Dragons fantasy role-playing game, a female gnome artificer
is a character class that specializes in creating magic items and other
magical devices. Artificers are highly skilled craftsmen and engineers who
use their knowledge of magic and technology to create powerful and often
complex magical items. They are able to imbue their creations with magical
energy, and may also have the ability to repair and modify existing magic
items. Artificers are often depicted as being highly intelligent and
resourceful, with a deep understanding of the principles of magic and
technology. They may also have abilities that allow them to imbue their own
bodies with magical energy, or to enhance the abilities of their allies,
cinematic effects, octane render”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/072c8936-17a6-464b-89b8-5f69796e0ca2/grid_0.png
“cute child boy cyborg meka mecha with wings, winged avatar, feet to head
picture whole body, futuristic character using modern clothes, dynamic
standing pose, using semi half mecha eyewear, modern fashion, semi half mecha
accessories, the character has a semi mecha gun, wepaon, knives, a circle
shape in the background, sword or katana in his backside, main focal point is
the character, colorful, high contrast, good lighting, good shadow, thick
bold textures, thick bold outlines, eyes looking at the front, full body,
detailed, by valorant game, cartoonic style”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/d18d4e6b-92dd-4d29-a875-53133b5b9f34/grid_0.png
“Deadpool as a long white hair vampiric chibi female, concept design sheet,
white background, warhammer 40k watercolor”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/8165d433-0d81-495c-a2dd-acfa78766b1c/grid_0.png
角色插画:
“evil queen sitting on her thrown in her ancient palace, looking down at
viewer, stone gargoyles, tapestries, braziers, elaborate background, magical
particles of light, smoke wisps, pointing at viewer, microdetails, vibrant
colors, bold linework, digital illustration, concept art, fantasy theme, pop
art influence, eye-catching composition, strong contrasting colors, dynamic
poses, dynamic perspective, playful, energetic”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/669822b7-13f2-4849-8a29-c02584aadef2/grid_0.png
“Female Dark Magician, Shadow Magic, Dramatic, Dark Magic Fire, concept art,
Fantasy, Frank Frazetta, Aaron Griffin, Lucas Graciano, Magali Villeneuve,
Pino Deani”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/9a190ff5-44da-4229-a938-8f475e24eb5e/grid_0.png
“full body portrait of Hecate Greek Goddess of Witchcraft, Magic, Crossroads,
beautiful greek woman with half black, half white hair, wearing all black,
two black dog, holding torch, detailed, dramatic lighting, by J.C. Leyendecker

https://cdn.midjourney.com/99f7e657-df5c-47ff-9692-b30db096a5e2/grid_0.png
场景插画:
“a futuristic and devastated street with destroyed skyscrapers and destroyed
cars by night, no light, cyberpunk style, very realistic, very detailed”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/924febb1-7ac1-4e0a-9dc4-7e054338e835/grid_0.png
“Japanese Garden, pond, water lillies, orchids, lotus flowers, sand, rocks,
boulder, lush shrubs, hyperdetailed, Erin Hanson/Donato Giancola/Nicolas de
Stael, cinematic lighting, long shadows, saturated contrast”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/8992bd6c-5080-46a6-8893-dd0b550a6453/grid_0.png
“a shot of the Secret Sacred Tree, hidden within a cavern, guarded by powerful
Arcana wielders, by Andrew Kurniawan, pexels contest winner, fantasy theme,
high fantasy time period, intricate details, glowing aura, dark and
mysterious atmosphere, ancient and sacred, hidden and protected, powerful
magic emanating from the tree, ethereal light”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/4701dc06-df9d-4d94-a93c-e3a7c32cdaf7/grid_0.png
场景:
“8 bit office interior”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/4f56508c-c836-4dd0-9018-9ad56039b97e/grid_0.png
“An isometric map of the Golden Oasis, a popular tavern & inn located in the
heart of Al-Rashid, is depicted in this digital art piece. The detailed map
showcases the various rooms and features of the establishment, including the
common room, bar, stage for entertainment, and guest rooms. The Golden Oasis
is depicted in a fantasy setting, likely inspired by the tabletop
role-playing game Dungeons & Dragons, adding to its allure and intrigue. The
intricacies of the map make it a visually interesting image, inviting the
viewer to explore and discover all that the Golden Oasis has to offer.”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/4a37c8cd-125c-4c6c-97c3-8791630c5ae4/grid_0.png
“abandoned room with secrets, flat style, illustration, limited colour
palette, overhead view as in role-playing games.”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/6c2fe5ec-8386-4cad-8fcd-4bdeb3882327/grid_0.png
其他素材:
“isometric beehive village, game design asset, environment, hand drawn, don't
starve together style, on white background”
https://cdn.midjourney.com/e34ffd96-6e35-4215-88c9-f56a3a72358c/grid_0.png
地图应该也可以,但当前找不到范例,前几天我做的
“map design, fantasy world map of video games, D&D Style, Pangaea, Historical
fantasy, parchment scroll, 8k”
https://images.plurk.com/6ZrX8BizwoFrlYo45ODv7v.png
之前存的角色设计稿(我忘记咒语了)
https://cdn.midjourney.com/36ca1d7b-7f0a-499d-a856-693ef7dadfa3/grid_0.png
请养成每天逛画廊随手按书签的好习惯。

至于想要知道怎么样风格统一,可以参考人家卖的稳定召唤咒语:
(我自己是买了几组后就大概抓到诀窍可以自己施法了)
Fantasy Landscapes
https://promptbase.com/prompt/fantasy-landscapes-2
Fantasy Gem Game Assets
https://promptbase.com/prompt/fantasy-gem-game-assets
Isometric Floating Cities
https://promptbase.com/prompt/isometric-floating-cities

之前参加AIGC年会,跟本板这个主题比较相关的部份:
https://www.businessyee.com/article/933-AI-Generated-Content-Event
学习模式与工作流程因 AI 产生变革
在政大教授数位内容图表的李怡志分享自己如何帮助学生利用 AI 学习设计,虽然学生学
习图表就像学习书法一样要经过“临摹”的锻炼(或说 Copy),与其在 Behance、
Pinterest 上浏览案例,不如利用 AI 临摹来学习效果更好。
例如在 Midjourney 输入 inforgraphic 加上图表主题关键字,“一小时就能生成相当一
本书厚度的范例。经由认识本体,了解结构,最后组合出自己的作品。AI 可以帮助学生
掌握结构,更快达成理想的成果。”
雷亚游戏执行长游名扬则从游戏产业的角度讨论,AI 会如何改变游戏开发的流程。例如
游戏产品的构成包括人物、道具、icon,以及游戏广告、登入页面的制作等,透过与 AI
协作,将使开发速度提升百倍以上。
例如可以让 ChatGPT 生成角色的招式(例如巫女的招数),或是提供角色的特征,让它
生成可用 AI 绘图的 prompt/咒语,人只要发想以及熟练如何跟 AI 沟通即可,而新的
工作如“AI 沟通师”因此而生。
游名扬指出,有 AI 的协助,工作流程将产生变革,以往制作游戏角色通常是决定人设,
绘制草稿,最后完稿。现在可以决定人设后直接使用 AI 完稿,再来调整人物设定。“重
新洗牌的时间即将到来,没有跟上 AI 导入的公司将被淘汰。”
补充雷亚的文字应用部分:
“这个角色的背景是OOO 职业XXX 请根据此帮角色设计10个招式名称并翻译成日韩英文”

也欢迎来AI_Art板我们聊聊你想要什么、我们可以怎么做:)
作者: coolrobin (泳圈)   2023-01-06 13:01:00
居然有看板,感谢分享
楼主: ZMTL (夜风/潇湘 VR板已经开板!)   2023-01-06 18:20:00
https://www.havefunbarjp.com/post100 可以看一下这例子
作者: aegis123321 (PE)   2023-01-06 19:56:00
好酷
作者: iLeyaSin365 (伊雷雅鑫)   2023-01-06 20:27:00
所以都是AI画的?
楼主: ZMTL (夜风/潇湘 VR板已经开板!)   2023-01-06 21:17:00
我贴的都是,连结里的应该也都是Midjourney咒语下去(就是我“”里面的内容)会出一张四格图,喜欢可以选一格放大或延伸变化,也可以选择再转一张四格https://leonardo.ai/#learn-more AI_Art板友分享的,以游戏素材为主的AI绘图生成平台,事前登录中
作者: milk830122 (SuperX)   2023-01-07 13:18:00
很有用但是开头难的应该是使用咒语这部分XD
作者: testPtt (测试)   2023-01-07 13:47:00
AI不知道能不能做3D骨架模
楼主: ZMTL (夜风/潇湘 VR板已经开板!)   2023-01-07 14:38:00
Midjourney说他们有在朝3D模型生成努力,但骨架...XD咒语就欢迎来AI板讨论了,上面也有些范例能参考
作者: wangm4a1 (水兵)   2023-01-08 23:56:00
推 实用
作者: googled (15357)   2023-01-09 10:49:00
推,感谢分享
作者: nicetw20xx (哇爱台湾)   2023-01-10 00:07:00
推 好强但是想知道授授权的话会怎么认定尤其是商用的 感觉很难认定
作者: Lhmstu (lhmstu)   2023-01-10 02:05:00
推推感谢分享
作者: ctrlbreak   2023-01-10 15:57:00
发现AI也开始在训练建模了 真替人类美术未来担心呀XD
作者: ddavid (谎言接线生)   2023-01-10 17:52:00
推,Midjourney 很适合这方面运用
作者: e23731208   2023-01-11 13:54:00
作者: maximx (Nothing)   2023-01-16 15:10:00
感谢分享
作者: w1230319 (天帝剑顿战幻舞)   2023-01-18 10:15:00
好厉害==
作者: purplvampire (阿修雷)   2023-01-20 20:29:00
太神了!
作者: artpoet (灵魂之舞)   2023-02-08 16:16:00
推,感谢
作者: nicetw20xx (哇爱台湾)   2023-02-11 15:31:00
前阵子比较忙...感觉真的是大跃进、再次感谢大大分享

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