[新闻]买Tesla Model 3五年比买Camry便宜

楼主: hanchueh (RaidenHC)   2019-08-16 11:23:40
https://i.imgur.com/vZ6Lzek.png
图片翻译:
Purchase Price = 车价
Financing = 贷款利息
Tax, Title, and License = 牌照税
Insurance = 保险费
Fuel/Electricity = 油费/电费
Maintenance/Repairs = 维修保养费
Total = 五年总花费
Resale Value = 五年剩余车价
Total = 五年总花费减去剩余车价
Cost Per Mile = 开一英里所需费用
原文连结:
https://loupventures.com/tesla-model-3-cost-of-ownership-slightly-cheaper-than
-a-camry/
原文内容:
We’ve updated our 5-year cost of ownership study comparing a Tesla Model 3 to
a Toyota Camry. The comparison gives us a look at how the Model 3 cost compar
es to a mass-market sedan. The original study from 2017 can be found温ere.
In 2017, our model concluded that while the Model 3 value proposition was weig
hed down by a 40% sale price premium, it would end up costing 13% more to own
and operate over 5 years than a Toyota Camry LE.
In 2019, we found the purchase price gap has widened to 59% ($35k Model 3 has
not come to fruition), but the cost of ownership gap has also widened to 18% f
rom 13%.
Importantly, factoring in the澑esale value漑f the two vehicles (benefit of an
EV is their ability to retain value), the Model 3 becomes 5% cheaper on a cost
per mile basis.
The bottom line: Model 3 is a superior car (electric, safer, Autopilot) compar
ed to a Camry, and is slightly cheaper to own and operate over 5 years.
Average all-in cost per mile for a Model 3 is $0.46, compared to the Camry LE
at $0.49, and Audi A5 at $0.80.
Here are the notable changes from the previous model:
The Model 3 purchase price increased. Our previous model anticipated a $35K Mo
del 3 would be in the market, which hasn’t came to fruition. The entry-level
Model 3 today is $38,900.
The Camry LE price was essentially unchanged.
We’re now factoring in resale value in our model.
Gas prices increased 16% since our 2017 study. We continue to expect a 5% annu
al increase.
Model 3 insurance is lower by 9%.
We are shifting to a finance option. Previously we used a lease option. This s
lightly and uniformly increased interest payments for each car.
Luxury Status
As the Model 3 is still considered to be a luxury sedan, we compared it to ano
ther luxury vehicle of similar cost. When compared to an Audi A5, the Model 3
was 12% cheaper upfront but over 5 years is 32% cheaper to operate (42% cheape
r with resale value included). While we still believe the Model 3 has the perk
s of a luxury vehicle, it’s evident that it can maintain those features at a
significantly lower cost.
Cost of Insurance
The cost difference between insuring a Tesla Model 3 and a Camry LE is less th
an you might think. The average cost per year of insuring a Tesla Model 3 is $
1,128 today, while the average cost to insure a Camry LE is $1,212. Research s
uggests that Tesla Model 3s are categorized by insurance companies as luxury v
ehicles, while the Camry LE is not. Our estimates show that the first two year
s of insurance will run you about $100 a month, with the third and fourth year
dropping to $90 a month. This price reduction is correlated with Tesla’s rum
ored internal insurance program which is projected to begin this summer in Nor
th America, as it has already launched in both Australia and China. The goal w
ith Tesla’s insurance program is to match rates of the lowest competitor. We
predict that the price to insure a Camry over the next 5 years will increase a
t a rate of 0.5%. Based on our model, we predict the average difference in ins
urance costs over a 5-year ownership span to be $420 less for a Tesla than a C
amry.
The car insurance game itself is a data operation and there just isn’t enough
current data on Tesla to justify the low insurance costs they should receive
based on their safety ratings. We see this transformation happening in two way
s; insurance companies who see the value in Tesla’s safety rating and lower t
heir rate accordingly, and Tesla owners beginning to use Tesla’s branded insu
rance.
Looking to the Future
We believe that our model is conservative and that there is still room for the
Model 3 to become even cheaper to own. We decided not to include the US EV ta
x credit due to the fact that it will be phased out completely by the end of t
his year. However, there is an opportunity for new incentives to be introduced
. We believe Tesla will shed its status as a premium luxury vehicle that is co
ntributing to higher insurance and financing rates. As EV ownership grows and
there is more data on their cost, we expect the long-term value proposition to
shine through.
心得/说明:(30字以上)
在美国买车养车五年后,如果卖掉,实际五年的花费 Model 3 比原车价便宜一万镁以上
的 Camry 还省。如果套在台湾,156万的 Model 3 五年花费应该跟130万的各种油电车有
得拼。
这个比较没有算进任何的电动车补助,
算是很公平的比较方式。
用电的确比用油便宜很多。
Model 3 真的没什么保养费用,
我猜$1200里面有800-1000是轮胎。
作者: DYE (跟脑残争最后都会变脑残.)   2019-08-16 11:27:00
说到底 如果自家能充电 能在晚上充 不用绕路去充电去等用电车是划算的
作者: lancelot123 (lancer)   2019-08-16 11:31:00
连个内文简易翻译都没有,Scape有诚意的多懒得全翻就置重点就好
作者: dreler1 (....)   2019-08-16 11:33:00
我觉得这样算有个盲点 我先说我自己的算法好了如果用lease来算就不用考虑五年残值
作者: ru04hj4 (纯朴乡下人II)   2019-08-16 11:34:00
2017开卖 五年到了吗
作者: dreler1 (....)   2019-08-16 11:36:00
model 3 约483 camry 约209 三年差约9864
作者: preisner (ppp)   2019-08-16 11:36:00
model3 古中价比camry高了约1成, 有那么高?一台中古卖48%, 一台中古卖36%
作者: dreler1 (....)   2019-08-16 11:38:00
如果把其他费用加进去 电车五年大概是便宜8,135我把这五年电车便宜的价格算回三年 跟 lease的价格比camry 整个package大概会便宜4000/5000我上面说的lease 价格都是网站查相似车款 相近首付due at sign 3500 36期 每个月的价格单位美金我顺手查了目前五年camry 价格大约在12000-14000间如果算12000的话 在这个计算中还是比 model3便宜一点
作者: mingdao ( )   2019-08-16 11:52:00
油车出远门只要找加油站 不用找充电桩
作者: a27588679 (飞云)   2019-08-16 11:52:00
台湾出远门也没多远 够用啦
作者: mingdao ( )   2019-08-16 11:53:00
我喜欢电车.家有三台狗肉.但电车在台湾还有很长的路要走
作者: paselalps (what matters)   2019-08-16 11:59:00
Resale根本乱估,toyota保值得很
作者: atbhao05 (mxhao)   2019-08-16 12:00:00
我手上有一台神A 有人要跟我换特斯拉吗 你贴一万就好
作者: flexin ((喘))   2019-08-16 12:01:00
呃,这两台大小没有差吗?
作者: fit   2019-08-16 12:02:00
model 3少了人家一颗引擎和一颗变速箱,还少了尾管,怎么比?
作者: ppboy (磨练)   2019-08-16 12:06:00
尾管看你要四出还是八出土炮,都有的改喔
作者: Joey452 (Joey)   2019-08-16 12:10:00
鬼岛有鬼岛的玩法
作者: clement80161 (我喜欢妳~)   2019-08-16 12:10:00
真的有人会买二手电车吗
作者: jim31837 (....)   2019-08-16 12:15:00
特斯拉一过保固修车钱绝对很可观小毛病很多 等料等到死
作者: cfk301 (WHY ME)   2019-08-16 12:17:00
你算不到打五折阿~
作者: bluemkevin (WHO WHO)   2019-08-16 12:17:00
五年花费在台湾应该还是比较省,残值在台湾要高,特斯拉要自己搞中古交易特斯拉应该不容易有小毛病
作者: eelke (eelke)   2019-08-16 12:18:00
过保:电子产品过保不维修唷,给你买新车折扣,科科
作者: HAHAHUNG (炸凤尾虾的酱汁)   2019-08-16 12:18:00
外国toyota 折旧也太夸张
作者: cfk301 (WHY ME)   2019-08-16 12:18:00
哪来的应该!是就是,不是就不是。不确定就不要提了
作者: bluemkevin (WHO WHO)   2019-08-16 12:20:00
还没有发生的事情用假设的
作者: ru04hj4 (纯朴乡下人II)   2019-08-16 12:20:00
有时候研究和现实也是有差距 GGR链条问题这么多
作者: cfk301 (WHY ME)   2019-08-16 12:21:00
那就是假设嘛!若与事实有出入,请自行吸收...乡民是要花钱买的耶!
作者: bluemkevin (WHO WHO)   2019-08-16 12:23:00
我说绝对是,乡民就会掏钱买哦
作者: pyramid0911 (Sam)   2019-08-16 12:26:00
等他真的便宜再说吧
作者: DYE (跟脑残争最后都会变脑残.)   2019-08-16 12:27:00
我去年就去看过二手的M-S 不过不是我自己要开 是给妹子买
作者: lwamp (尧尧)   2019-08-16 12:27:00
最大的开销还是折旧 台湾头又大没有对手
作者: georgelkk (冲?哥?)   2019-08-16 12:35:00
Insurance就不对了...
作者: suntex01 (tears in my heart)   2019-08-16 12:40:00
这篇是把残值算进去model 3才有比较便宜.要是只算操作成
作者: bluezoo   2019-08-16 12:40:00
台湾乡民勤俭持家车都开20年,会不会换电池时前面省的钱又全吐回去?
作者: suntex01 (tears in my heart)   2019-08-16 12:41:00
本,model 3比camry 贵快一万...而且五年camry很难想像残值只剩9000USD.
作者: bluemkevin (WHO WHO)   2019-08-16 12:43:00
Toyota在台湾是镶金的
作者: ck9731208 (lee864)   2019-08-16 12:46:00
电动车售价本身就有政府补助了,天生就是不公平的
作者: bluemkevin (WHO WHO)   2019-08-16 12:48:00
电池一个模组 5000-7000美金
作者: wings0713 (wings0713)   2019-08-16 13:01:00
买车就是要改啊
作者: d88647511 (Ricky Rubio)   2019-08-16 13:03:00
之前酸油电省油不省钱,结果电动车也玩忽略车价这套啊XD ,油电车能压到七字头,台湾电动车150起跳,当然是以台湾情况,美国我不敢说
作者: maniaque (maniaque)   2019-08-16 13:11:00
Prius等类型的油电车,电池用途应该是回收煞车动能
作者: cfk301 (WHY ME)   2019-08-16 13:12:00
等不在假设再考虑.....。大部分言论好像都用梦的
作者: maniaque (maniaque)   2019-08-16 13:12:00
让能量可以更有效发挥
作者: aliangh (嘎嘎)   2019-08-16 13:19:00
用电车是划算的 但是不包含gogoro
作者: casper955033 (Casper)   2019-08-16 13:21:00
空间差这么多...要就拿model s 比吧
作者: ccc73123   2019-08-16 13:22:00
这是美国残值 在台湾不适用
作者: DANTEINFERNO (DANTE)   2019-08-16 13:23:00
我记得cmary和model 3差不多长 model s更高一阶了
作者: JEON (果然是乡民的世界)   2019-08-16 13:24:00
我觉得....要挑战花费找toyota实在不太明智 下次改进吧
作者: DANTEINFERNO (DANTE)   2019-08-16 13:26:00
*camry 不过 车子要注重残值怎样都不划算吧
作者: JasonHuang (吉吉吉)   2019-08-16 13:27:00
Resale地方太唬烂 五年Camry不可能跌超过一半
楼主: hanchueh (RaidenHC)   2019-08-16 13:39:00
你们想像中的 Camry 应该是三万镁版的XLE吧
作者: giveme520   2019-08-16 13:42:00
方便性
作者: z2114422 (Hunting)   2019-08-16 13:43:00
Resale value和maintenance乱估一通
作者: Gocoba (Family Guy)   2019-08-16 13:54:00
这台model3也只是基本款而已拉 连ap都没有 toyota五年车不可能这么底的 这文章根本没价值版主可以自己去看美国官网哪来的全ap标配我上礼拜才去试开8/17号之后fully auto poilot 加7000美金 加州资讯报价给
作者: Killercat (杀人猫™)   2019-08-16 14:01:00
AP/EAP两个是分开的
作者: Gocoba (Family Guy)   2019-08-16 14:03:00
反观19 Accord基本款26K美金就有全套honda sensing
作者: Killercat (杀人猫™)   2019-08-16 14:03:00
https://i.imgur.com/BMwcLGm.png 下面的FSDC(以前的EAP)才是要加价选购的以前的AP要加一笔钱 FSDC(以前叫EAP)又要加一笔
作者: DANTEINFERNO (DANTE)   2019-08-16 14:10:00
AP是标配 FSD才是选配
作者: Gocoba (Family Guy)   2019-08-16 14:11:00
现在的ap根本就只是一般车的adaptive巡航 那个honda/toyota也都标配但只要26K
作者: DANTEINFERNO (DANTE)   2019-08-16 14:13:00
但是依旧是标配
作者: Killercat (杀人猫™)   2019-08-16 14:17:00
以前你没选AP的话其实你就只有ACC, nothing more.
作者: scsip (无)   2019-08-16 14:45:00
充电问题解决电动车屌打汽油车,充电问题解决不了就GG
作者: bluemkevin (WHO WHO)   2019-08-16 14:47:00
Yes, 充电问题解决,燃料费屌打
作者: qw99992 (雪彤云)   2019-08-16 14:48:00
我一定买A5
作者: LearnRPG (真是有趣的地方)   2019-08-16 14:57:00
别怀疑鬼岛丰田的二手保值度 ... 国外无法参考的 XD
作者: kobe741107 (警察先生就是他~)   2019-08-16 15:23:00
这国外的Resale价格根本没办法参考啊
作者: axlfun (捡到一块钱)   2019-08-16 16:07:00
是不会不合理,只是不符合台湾二手市场价格而已五年车在台湾还是会有半价
作者: dreler1 (....)   2019-08-16 16:20:00
我不知道你怎么找的 http://0rz.tw/2hK8thttps://imgur.com/a/DJt0kIQ我这个condition 还是选烂的 正常应该还要多1000多就算我们不考虑resale 像上面提到我用lease成本去算model 3对camry 根本没优势 更不用说大小相近的神A而且现在是2019五年车要找2015的比较对我觉得电车算上补助一定比较便宜 但是这个算法太放大油车的成本忽略电车的成本了http://0rz.tw/338g3 这篇不管在任何成本的预估上都比较合理 不过如果你坚持己见也就算了 XDDDDhttp://0rz.tw/V30G6
作者: POWERSERIES (控诉社会不公)   2019-08-16 16:55:00
时间成本都不用算
作者: kazami (高处不胜寒)   2019-08-16 18:05:00
我同学的fit 大约5年20万km左右的时候,业务有跟他30万收唷我想toyoto在台湾应该可以再保值一点点吧(除了油电车..)这个camry的残值估计应该不太适合台湾用电是便宜没错 但是如果只是管总花费 油电有便宜prius C真的不需要为比而比...
作者: dreler1 (....)   2019-08-16 19:05:00
你用trade in 那model3绝对没有18000的价钱我有一个true car全国的连结 价格没差那么多我只能说你先射箭再画靶 怎样都中靶的你要分享资讯也不错 只是美国网友指出来问题说这个讯息是错的 为什么一定要坚持?而且不只我提出问题
作者: sagat666 (只是个ID)   2019-08-16 19:21:00
以前的EAP和现在的AP都没有包含自动煞车AEB,这是车子本身就标配还是怎样
作者: ctes940008 (蛤!我只是小兵!?)   2019-08-16 19:45:00
神车的保值这么差喔?
作者: suntex01 (tears in my heart)   2019-08-16 21:18:00
Nada 给五年camry LE average condition有 $9,900.good 有到11,000
作者: Rinsian (Rinsian)   2019-08-17 03:16:00
你有透天吗
作者: ish55667788 (帅)   2019-08-17 09:38:00
五年50%高估很多了 Rav4才43%这已经是SUV 保值率第二名了 只输Subaru 49%美国新车便宜修车贵二手自然低房车其实更惨的 C300 五年掉到连台币50万都不用
作者: MXIC ( )   2019-08-17 17:50:00
你拿Camry跟M3做比较比较不适合,因为Camry在台湾根本不热门再加上现在Camry跟Altis的长度宽度都差不多,如果拿Altis来跟M3比的话,光售价就便宜至少一半以上,以勤俭持家的人来说从开新车一直开到报废,修车的钱加总都不会比一台M3的售价贵更别说二手价了,牛头牌在台湾的二手价一向还不错。

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