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RDSON (Rds(on))
2017-06-12 15:49:56我是觉得
大概140公里续航力
租金一个月大概8千台币
纯电车不用税金
租的车子不用折旧、保险
假设用在台北周遭城市通勤
加上本田的妥善率
一年大概十万块台币的通勤费用
比买车还划算
蛮棒棒的啊
※ 引述《Scape (缺钙缺很大)》之铭言：
: 看不懂本田在耍什么把戏
: 搞一辆续航力只有89 miles的电动车，月租要$269 (美金)
: (本田中文介绍：http://cn.automobiles.honda.com/future-cars/clarity-electric )
: 这种续航力还好意思拿出来？
: 这种续航力跟价格比起对手一点竞争力也没有
: 就算是定位在短距离通勤车也太贵、续航力太短
: 比起真正的电动车续航力根本不在同一个等级
: 这些传统车厂的最大问题就是想把燃油车引擎油箱拆了换装上马达电池来做电动车
: 结果做出来的电动车续航力不好、效能不好，连带打坏了消费者心中对于电动车的形象
: 就不能好好针对电池以及马达从底盘好好设计一辆电动车吗？
: 急着拿出这种半成品出来
: 让人感觉这些车厂的目的是在扼杀电动车跟自己的未来
: 然后就有借口说消费者不接受电动车所以我们不做了
: 这是因为你们做出了一辆烂车啊!!!
: Electrek甚至说本田推出这种电动车近似于"无耻"
: Honda seems to have shamelessly positioned the Clarity EV as a compliance car.
: 先不说今年下半年要开始交车的Model 3续航力多了一倍有余
: 市面上的Leaf、Bolt、Zoe、中国境内一堆电动车续航力都比这多的多
: 本田推出这种车不晓得在想什么，对得起本质迷吗？
: 原文连结：
: https://goo.gl/n2MCv4
: 原文内容：
: Honda Clarity EV details: 89-mile range, lease only, $269/mo, available
: August/September (DOA?)
: Honda held a test drive event this weekend for the all-electric version
: of their Clarity vehicle platform, and we learned answers to several of
: the hanging questions about the vehicle.
: The range, which we recently reported would be around 80 miles, will
: actually be a bit higher-than-expected at 89 miles. The car also comes
: with DC charging standard. This isn’t so bad compared to many other EVs
: on the market, but in a world where the Bolt EV and Model 3 exist, this
: range spec is starting to look a little dated. Even worse, the price is
: higher than other “near-100-mile” EVs, with a factory lease price of
: $269/mo, $1,999 down (including first month’s payment), though a very
: generous 20,000 miles per year.
: The Clarity EV will be available in August or September, and only as a
: compliance vehicle in California and Oregon. With a price/feature
: package like this, though, it might be dead on arrival, especially
: compared to what else is available these days. Check below the break for
: why.
: The Clarity EV is capable of level 1, 2 and 3 charging. On level 1, a
: standard 120v outlet, a full battery charge will take about 19 hours. On
: level 2, which is the recommended home charging mode, a full charge will
: take about 3 hours. On level 3 DC charging, you’ll be able to reach 80%
: in about 30 minutes.
: The battery is in the rear of the car, taking up room which would
: otherwise be extra trunk space. There is a lot of empty space under the
: hood, belying the fact that this is a car which shares a platform with
: other drive configurations, and wasn’t designed around being
: all-electric (else they could have several more cubic feet of storage
: space in a “frunk”, had Honda designed the car around that idea).
: Battery kWh was not specified, but from the charging times above it
: sounds like it’s about 20-22kWh – which also means the DC charging
: happens at only around ~40kW. This is better than nothing and it’s good
: that DC charging is included, but the rate seems low when compared to the
: Hyundai Ioniq EV‘s 100kW capability (albeit only for about 15 minutes
: before the battery fills up too much and needs to throttle charging
: rates).
: For their part, Honda is happy with the range number because they wanted
: to “differentiate” the EV from other vehicles in the Clarity line. The
: EV version of the car is “a niche car for a niche customer.” For those
: customers who do not need long range, they wanted to offer a battery
: which is properly sized for their needs. While I’m sympathetic to this
: reasoning as I often would like the option to buy smaller battery packs
: in exchange for money/weight savings on the vehicle (I’m looking at you,
: Tesla…a Roadster with ~300lbs less battery weight would handle so well…
: ), Honda’s price is too high to make up for their relatively low-spec
: car.
: For comparison, Hyundai’s recent “multiple drivetrains on one platform
: ” entry, the Ioniq EV, offers more range, the most efficient car ever
: sold in the US (Ioniq EV gets 136mpge vs. Clarity’s 114mpge), faster DC
: quick charging, and an “unlimited subscription package” which includes
: unlimited mileage, free maintenance even on wear items (tires etc.), no
: license fees, and even a reimbursement for charging costs. All of this
: is available at $275/mo, just $6/mo more than the Clarity but with what
: seems like a much better value proposition. Even the Clarity’s generous
: 20k miles/yr doesn’t compete with the Hyundai’s unlimited mileage.
: The Bolt EV, which has a higher lease price than both, also seems to
: offer a better package for the price. Factory lease deals are $329/mo
: but some dealers will beat that, and for that price you get a much more
: capable car, purpose-built EV which is speedy and fun – we loved it in
: our review. And given the many other EVs with ~90 mile range which are
: available for purchase or with significantly better lease deals than the
: Clarity, all of which have been on the roads for years, Honda seems late
: to the party with this one.
: It is also troubling to offer a car as “a niche car for a niche customer.
: ” We’ve had plenty of experience with car companies refusing to sell
: EVs seriously, either positioning them as geographically-limited “
: compliance cars” or with dealerships veering customers away from full
: EVs.
: Honda seems to have shamelessly positioned the Clarity EV as a compliance
: car, as it will only be available in two states, and only via a lease –
: similar to their past effort, the Fit EV, and recalling shades of the GM
: EV1 to longtime EV fans (see “Who Killed the Electric Car?” for more on
: how GM killed their EV program, took back leased EVs and crushed them,
: which then inspired Tesla’s founding). This was a common tactic for
: many years among companies who just wanted ZEV credits so they could
: continue to sell gas guzzlers in California, but it seemed like the
: industry might be starting to move away from that direction with some
: more serious, nationwide entrants like the Bolt EV.
: So, Honda’s Clarity EV might fill a niche, but it seems like that niche
: could be “people buying a car three or four years ago when these specs
: might have been seen as average and who don’t mind paying a premium for
: some reason.” It’s 2017, Honda. The Bolt, Ioniq and Model 3 exist (or
: at least it will by September). You can do better than this.