楼主:
ccpz (OoOoOo)
2015-12-02 09:15:49http://bit.ly/1SvtgbG
目前水手,金莺正在认真谈 Mark Trumbo <-> Steve Clevenger 交易
除了分摊薪水的问题外, 金莺还想要多要一个球员
另外金莺也在考虑 Mark Trumbo 被 Non-Tender,可以直接签的可能
By Bob Dutton
bdutton@thenewstribune.com
SEATTLE — The Mariners, in a race to beat the clock, closed in Tuesday night
on a deal that would sent first baseman/outfielder Mark Trumbo to Baltimore
for catcher/first baseman Steve Clevenger.
Sources from both sides confirmed discussions were ongoing, although one
cautioned: "There’s still some details to be worked out."
The Orioles are believed to be demanding another player in the deal.
One hurdle complicating the talks is the salary disparity between the two
players. Trumbo is eligible for arbitration and projects to make $9.1 million
in 2016; Clevenger is not yet eligible and figures to make about $520,000.
The Orioles are also concerned, another source said, they might needlessly be
surrendering a player (Clevenger) amid speculation the Mariners could choose
not to offer a contract to Trumbo prior to Wednesday’s deadline.
Clubs must offer contracts to all unsigned players on their 40-man roster by
9 p.m. Wednesday. Those who don’t receive an offer become free agents with
no compensation to their former clubs if they sign elsewhere.
In contrast, players who receive a contract offer are considered signed
players even if their salary has yet to be negotiated. As such, they are
eligible for separation pay if subsequently released.
That compensation amounts to roughly one-sixth of a player’s salary
(30/183rds) even if he is released more than 15 days before the season starts.
In effect, an offer to Trumbo, if the Mariners don’t want to keep him, could
represent a $1.5 million gamble that he can be traded at a later date.
The Mariners have three other arbitration-eligible players: reliever Charlie
Furbush (who projects to get $1.7 million), outfielder Leonys Martin ($3.75
million) and pitcher Anthony Bass ($1.1 million).
Players not yet eligible for arbitration must also be offered contracts but —
as is the case with Clevenger — they have little negotiating leverage and
typically sign for the major-league minimum ($507,500) or slightly more.
The Mariners’ desire to trade Trumbo, a proven power hitter who averaged 26
homers over the last five years, stems from a belief that he is a poor fit in
their quest to build a more athletic, better defensive club.
Dipoto reached the same conclusion roughly two years ago when, as general
manager of the Los Angeles Angels, he traded Trumbo to Arizona in a
three-team deal that involved six players.
The Mariners held multiple discussions with the Orioles and Colorado Rockies
over the last two weeks in an effort to trade Trumbo. When talks with the
Rockies stalled, the Mariners pushed harder with the Orioles.
Clevenger, 29, is a left-handed hitter who is out of options. He batted .287
last season in 30 games for the Orioles but spent much of the year at
Triple-A Norfolk, where he batted .305 in 75 games.
A seventh-round pick by the Chicago in 2006, he reached the majors in 2011. A
July 2013 trade brought Clevenger to the Orioles in a four-player swap that
sent Cy Young winner Jake Arrieta to the Cubs.
Clevenger has a .228 career average in 148 games over parts of five
big-league seasons, but he has a .310 average in 733 minor-league games over
10 years.
Trumbo batted .263 last season with 13 homers and 41 RBIs in 96 games after
joining the the Mariners with pitcher Vidal Nuno from Arizona in a June 3
trade.
The Diamondbacks received catcher Welington Castillo, reliever Dominic Leone
and two minor-league players: outfielder Gabby Guerrero and infielder Jack
Reinheimer.
That trade represented an effort by the Mariners’ previous regime to
jump-start what, at that point, was a struggling attack. But Trumbo got off
to a dreadful start at 11-for-79 in his first 22 games.
Trumbo then rallied by batting .302 over his final 74 games with 12 homers
and 36 RBIs. Overall, he finished last season at .262 in 142 games with 22
homers and RBIs.
作者:
a88152660 (Erictseng)
2015-12-02 09:31:00应该是签来摆外野角落 顺便当一垒备胎...
作者:
saiulbb (Becky♪#是我的拉!)
2015-12-02 09:32:00对啊 一换一金莺赔 换来当DH吗 还是对pearse没信心pearce才对 不过至少还有交易的价值...
作者:
a88152660 (Erictseng)
2015-12-02 09:38:00Pearce已经是自由球员了吧
作者: ellis3173 2015-12-02 10:02:00
不知道Chen的合约进展如何………
作者:
qozxcv (卷翘睫毛)
2015-12-02 10:14:00怎么没上落矶山
作者:
saiulbb (Becky♪#是我的拉!)
2015-12-02 10:14:00对吼 估狗玩才知道 谢谢指正
作者:
whalelover (哞哞哞哞王)
2015-12-02 10:23:00川宝又被Dipoto卖掉了一次
作者:
saiulbb (Becky♪#是我的拉!)
2015-12-02 10:23:00交易好像成功了 MLBTR有新闻
作者:
qozxcv (卷翘睫毛)
2015-12-02 10:30:00省9M要来签CHEN吗?
楼主:
ccpz (OoOoOo)
2015-12-02 10:42:00也不算为了省 9M 交易, 直接 Non-Tender 也可以省只是交易后可以拿回一些报酬, Non-Tender 就打水飘了
如果Clevenger真的能换到Trumbo就神了
作者:
heroboy (TIGER WANG ~~~~)
2015-12-02 11:04:00Trumbo放外野根本就一个大洞...看水手比赛看他一直搞笑
川后之前在别队后来守 1B居多~楼上应该问为啥水兵那白吃教练有胆让他守外野XD
作者:
sulaIX (国(ㄧㄥˊ)球=假球)
2015-12-02 11:55:00川宝…
作者:
acd51874 (Iwakuma)
2015-12-02 11:55:00麦总:火力最大化
作者:
kamihio (被蝴蝶追着跑的贝拉)
2015-12-02 12:39:00猴子就敢让川宝外野 不是吗?
作者: chinekigai1 (trbman) 2015-12-02 12:47:00
Trumbo在猴子的确守过外野 但真的最好不要....
作者:
Werth (é¬æŸ)
2015-12-02 12:50:00真的来了 恭喜金鸟
作者:
Zuleta 2015-12-02 13:38:00不错1B/LF都可以 不过守LF很可怕
为什么要放弃Clevenger?若要交易,是跟水手要外野手才对
若是金莺留不住MW,Clevenger就可以来接班且水手不是年轻外野手一堆吗? 金莺没要OF还真奇怪
30岁还站不稳大联盟的捕手是什么好货吗Trumbo的价值也被高估了啦 没腿没手套的盲砲
作者:
cd12631 (<(◥█◤△◥█◤)>)
2015-12-02 14:28:00水兵哪来的年轻外野手一堆啊- - 平行时空吗?我们去年还派川宝和裤子一起去守外野耶
作者:
a88152660 (Erictseng)
2015-12-02 14:38:00我相信金鸟会把他交易来应该还是希望他能站外野啦...毕竟GM之前讲过要弄过来的是一个外野手 至于能不能守到时候再说吧...虽然我喜欢Clevenger 但他如果不能打出跟AAA相对应的成绩是没有本钱跟Joseph竞争的
Clevenger打击不错但守备悲剧Trumbo应该是1B备案,LF大概守不了,若签回CD可能先把川宝放一垒CD去LF,或川宝去DH没签回CD可能会追Morneau。我个人是比较喜欢Clevenger但Clevenger太衰了,谁知道Wieters会接受QO…本来明年是要用Caleb Joseph/Steve Clevenger站捕手的
Trumbo守外野守的实在太陡了,CD守外野至少中规中矩
作者: Gilbertsky (Gilbert) 2015-12-02 16:40:00
CD LF RF 都可以站 守得不算差 偶尔客串很OK的程度查了一下守LF的样本太小了 比印象中少 没什么参考价值
作者: msekili 2015-12-02 17:28:00
本人都说了
作者:
porten812 (节能.减碳.发优文)
2015-12-02 21:02:00作者:
qozxcv (卷翘睫毛)
2015-12-03 08:41:00Jerry Dipoto第二次交易他 第一次是当天使GM
作者:
Shauter ( )
2015-12-03 21:12:00川宝怎么变成这样.....