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作者: a343408065 (寂寞东京铁塔) 看板: Gossiping
标题: [爆卦] 葛特曼自己记忆错乱的关键证据
时间: Wed Sep 5 23:44:27 2018
现在活摘器官事件中最大的争点就在于
柯文哲知不知情
事实上民进党新潮流柯黑第一大将梁文杰自己也承认
原文关于柯文哲的访谈的那段内容就写的模模糊糊
我刚好找到了葛特曼2016年接受美国ABC新闻专访谈中国活摘器官
里头他有谈到更多关于柯文哲的访谈细节
看完之后 就可以确定葛特曼把柯文哲和其他人的角色搞混了
至于柯文哲为什么当初没有发现葛特曼弄错或是沟通不良
就要问他自己了
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2016/s4511091.htm
Does China kill prisoners to order for the trade in organ transplants?
中国是否会逮捕囚犯以订购器官移植手术？
以下我只撷取柯文哲的部分翻译
MARK COLVIN: And when you get these accounts, obviously one of the things
that any journalist does is to try and cross index if you like the kind of
details that they give. How does that stack up?
MARK COLVIN:
当你得到这些记述时，显然任何记者会做的事情之一就是，如果你喜欢他们给出的细节，
就会试着交叉索引。这是怎么建构起来的？
ETHAN GUTMANN: Well that's pretty interesting because we do have a couple of
doctors who've come out on the record. So we have that, we also have the now
mayor of Taipei, Doctor Ko Wen-je, who went to China to look for organs, to
suss out the situation, the organ situation for his clinic.
ETHAN GUTMANN:
这很有意思，因为我们确实有几位医生出现在记录中。所以我们有了这些记述，我们现在
还有现任台北市市长柯文哲医师提供的记述，他到中国寻找器官，为他的诊所探查器官的
的情况。
And he wanted to talk to the doctors about prices among other things at this
hospital, he wanted to see if he could get the Chinese price, not the
foreigner price for organs. And they got to know him a bit, they liked him,
and they said okay look we know you're, we're gonna give you the Chinese
price and they said we also know you're pretty concerned about these organs
coming from prisoners, because you know they're a lot of drug addicts and
these people live hard lives.
We want to assure you all these organs are coming from Falun Gong. These
people, they don't drink, they don't smoke, they're very health really. So...
而且他想和那些医生谈谈这家医院里其他东西的价格，他想知道他是否可以得到中国的价
格，而不是开给外国人的器官价格。他们稍微认识了他，他们喜欢他，他们说好的，看我
们了解你，我们会给你中国人的价格，他们说我们也知道你非常担心这些来自囚犯的器官
，因为你知道他们是很多吸毒成瘾者，而这些人生活很困苦。
我们要向你保证所有这些器官都来自法轮功。这些人，他们不喝酒，他们不抽菸，他们真
的很健康。所以...