[新闻] 比特币的高手续费暴露了它的极限

楼主: Epimenides (No.13)   2017-11-15 03:08:29
新闻来源连结:
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-11-14/bitcoin-s-high-transaction-fees-show-its-limits
缩网址
https://goo.gl/y8UPrC
新闻本文:
随手加减跳着翻一下
Bitcoin's High Transaction Fees Show Its Limits
比特币的高手续费暴露了它的极限
The original cryptocurrency may never be a widespread payment instrument.
第一个加密货币可能永远不会成为广泛使用的支付工具
By Leonid Bershidsky
November 14, 2017, 8:41 PM GMT+8
More hassle than it's worth? Photographer: Dan Kitwood
The Bitcoin rate spike, still alive despite bitter divisions in the community
that supports the cryptocurrency, has laid bare the biggest problem with
Bitcoin: Compared with fiat currencies, it's painfully inconvenient and
expensive to use as a means of payment.
尽管比特币社群分裂,它的价格还是上涨
最大的问题:和法币相比,它作为支付的工具
使用上有够痛苦,有够不方便,成本有够贵
Bitcoin is set up to reward users for verifying transactions. Miners who
package transactions into "blocks" receive two kinds of rewards: The
additional Bitcoin they produce by using their hardware to solve mathematical
problems (an income stream that will eventually cease since 21 million
bitcoins are the maximum that can be mined) and the transaction fees paid by
users to get their payments into blocks.
简介一下矿工的角色,这个大家都知道就不翻
The Bitcoin system is designed around scarcity and its traditionalists insist
on keeping the block size small (rebels who did away with that tenet founded
an offshoot, Bitcoin Cash, earlier this year). Their reasoning is that only
people with more computing power can live in a big-block world and going down
that path would make Bitcoin less democratic. But that horse has bolted:
Mining is already largely the province of people who invest significant money
in equipment and the huge amount of energy required to run it. As Bitcoin's
exchange rate rose rapidly and more people wanted to get in on the boom,
getting into blocks became difficult, and miners prioritize transactions on
which users are willing to pay a higher fee. It works a bit like Uber's surge
pricing, except the user sets the fee based on how long she's prepared to
wait for the transaction to go through
作者: wahaha99 (此方不可长)   2017-11-15 04:24:00
BTC就是靠这三个字金贵, 不然他的技术实在是最落后的这是合理的, 因为他是第一个成为主流的加密货币,而这曝露了加密货币的价值本质 -- 信仰只要大家都认同, 那么狗屎也能变成黄金,那这样一来, 知名度远比什么零知识证明、环状签名、拜占庭容错、Anti-ASIC、智慧合约....都重要这是行销的力量, 也是人类共有的盲点
作者: somanyee (Soman)   2017-11-15 06:50:00
btc之父中本聪的形象,是其他币无法模仿或超越的
作者: IamSkyBlue (天空蓝)   2017-11-15 06:54:00
推一楼,现在fb上显现出的台湾文化也是进场只想知道怎么赚"比特币",然后就一大堆直销,对于用什么技术完全不想去了解,而且就算最近塞车好像也没使用其他币的趋势,但想一想这不就只是他们进场的唯一目的吗QAQ
作者: dans (Go for the eye)   2017-11-15 07:03:00
只有我大扩容派支持的比特币未来可广泛支付使用
作者: tcn1john (momo)   2017-11-15 08:27:00
推翻译
作者: st943617 (電子花車)   2017-11-15 09:00:00
比特币遇到的问题 其他币迟早也会遇到? 那我大ETH也可以7000镁吗?
作者: JoyRex (JoyRex)   2017-11-15 09:11:00
看看LTC和BTC这2种半斤八两的币价差多大就知道都是靠信仰
作者: darkdixen (darkdixen)   2017-11-15 09:46:00
好险中本聪消失了 不然早被core打成支持扩容的既得利益者
作者: kuma660224 (kuma660224)   2017-11-15 11:19:00
中本聪的消失也帮BTC传奇化加深信仰因为不存在所以不会犯错。信仰需要先知的神秘感与传说来加持。先知离开了,但留下BTC神蹟与白皮书
作者: darkdixen (darkdixen)   2017-11-15 11:26:00
kuma大说的很有禅意 有点感叹
作者: kuma660224 (kuma660224)   2017-11-15 11:38:00
像DAO或ETH小金童就只是凡人。会为自身利益而战,终究无法变成传奇。
作者: ptt80357 (Z8)   2017-11-15 11:46:00
就跟画家死了,画暴涨的道理大致相同,因为已经变成独一无二
作者: JoyRex (JoyRex)   2017-11-15 12:01:00
现在有交易后10秒内就可确认入帐的虚拟币吗?
作者: DarkerDuck (達克鴨)   2017-11-15 12:01:00
再Core领导下,BTC技术只能是最落后的啊乙太币闲著没事干就在硬分叉升级交易卡住的情形也变少但在Core诅咒下,BTC永远不得硬分叉升级除非你用Tangle那种非区块链技术的不然10秒产生一个区块的区块炼无法稳定存在最短就大约30秒了,不可能更短,更短会有大量孤立块早在2014年早期的比特币开发者就已经有完整的扩容路线图 http://i.imgur.com/VIGwE80.gif甚至连现在的Core开发者本来都是支持上百MB的区块大小https://goo.gl/GTHdYn但在Blockstream设立后,一切都停滞了,为什么呢??自己想想看吧
作者: Ash1taka (紡繳、檠弓弩)   2017-11-15 19:29:00
第111~114行:应该不是10亿笔/6.3兆笔交易是总额10亿美元/6.3兆美元的交易量DD贴的今昔对照真让人感慨...如果有一天IOTA foundation被BS那样的公司把持我应该也会因为发展路线违反初衷超恨的
作者: rmp4rmp4bear (天然呆)   2017-11-16 02:28:00
看这路线图如过往云烟就难受想哭
作者: DarkerDuck (達克鴨)   2017-11-16 02:34:00
回到手续费这个问题,其实高手续费有个极端严重的问题就是情形再严重下去的话,大部分地址内的比特币根本无法移动,因为手续费超过地址内的余额 XDDD而这个问题用闪电网络也是完全无法解决的像这种荒谬的案例近来已经越来越多了尤其是用比特币收取捐款的机构,他们的比特币全部都被 "冻住了" 感恩扣而,赞叹扣而希望闪电网络能够把这些"dust" transaction "解决掉"

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