[新闻] 中国正在制定禁售燃油车的时间表

楼主: Scape (non)   2017-09-11 17:04:34
先整理一下目前已经宣布(有些在立法中)禁售燃油车时间表的国家或地区有哪些:
荷兰:2025年
挪威:2025年
德国:2030年
法国:2040年
英国:2040年(苏格兰自行提出要提前至2032年)
印度:2030年(有另一说是2032年)
9月8日~10日在天津召开的2017中国汽车产业发展国际论坛上,
中国工信部副部长辛国斌透露,
正在与其它监理机构合作制定禁止燃油车生产以及销售的时间表。
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虽然某奇瑞高层表示,像中国这样大的市场,
要完全禁止燃油车销售时间表会比较晚,应该会晚于2040年。
不过个人觉得比较早跟比较晚对燃油车来说只是死刑跟死缓的差别
以一款车的生命周期约8~10年来说
时间表一出汽车厂商们就会提前至少8~10年完全取消燃油车新车款的开发
转而全力投入电动车
之前宣布要禁售燃油车的国家目前只能算是中小型市场
像中国这样的大市场而且还有高度成长空间的国家一但宣布出禁售时间表
那意义会完全不同~
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China Fossil Fuel Deadline Shifts Focus to Electric Car Race
China will set a deadline for automakers to end sales of fossil-fuel-powered
vehicles, becoming the biggest market to do so in a move that will accelerate
the push into the electric car market led by companies including BYD Co. and
BAIC Motor Corp.
Xin Guobin, the vice minister of industry and information technology, said
the government is working with other regulators on a timetable to end
production and sales. The move will have a profound impact on the environment
and growth of China’s auto industry, Xin said at an auto forum in Tianjin on
Saturday.
The world’s second-biggest economy, which has vowed to cap its carbon
emissions by 2030 and curb worsening air pollution, is the latest to join
countries such as the U.K. and France seeking to phase out vehicles using
gasoline and diesel. The looming ban on combustion-engine automobiles will
goad both local and global automakers to focus on introducing more
zero-emission electric cars to help clean up smog-choked major cities.
“The implementation of the ban for such a big market like China can be later
than 2040,” said Liu Zhijia, an assistant general manager at Chery
Automobile Co., the country’s biggest passenger car exporter that unveiled a
new line for upscale battery-powered and plug-in hybrid models at the
Frankfurt motor show last week. “That will leave plenty of time for everyone
to prepare.”
China Smashes EV Rankings as Germany Worries Over Diesel: BNEF
BYD, China’s largest electric-vehicle maker, gained as much as 7.2 percent
to HK$50.65 while BAIC advanced as much as 2.9 percent to HK$7.09 in Hong
Kong trading. Guoxuan High-Tech Co., an EV battery manufacturer, rose as much
as 5.3 percent to 33.70 yuan in Shenzhen.
While many global manufacturers from billionaire Elon Musk’s Tesla Inc. to
Nissan Motor Co. and General Motors Co. are racing to grab a slice of the
electric-vehicle market in China, it is the local manufacturers that have
found considerable success thanks to generous government subsidies.
Leading the Pack
Warren Buffett-backed BYD led the pack in sales in the first seven months of
this year, delivering 46,855 electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles, according
to the China Passenger Car Association. Beijing Electric Vehicle, the EV
division of state-owned BAIC Motor, followed with 36,084 units. In
comparison, General Motors has sold 738 cars run on electricity since it
launched the Velite 5 plug-in hybrid model at the Shanghai auto show this
April. That is 0.04 percent of its 2.1 million vehicles sold in total in
China during the seven months.
Besides subsidies that also are aimed at meeting the strategic goal of
cutting expensive oil imports, the government plans to require automakers to
earn enough credits or buy them from competitors with a surplus under a new
cap-and-trade program for fuel economy and emissions.
Honda Motor Co. will bring its electric car for the China market in 2018,
China Chief Operating Officer Yasuhide Mizuno said at the Tianjin forum. The
Japanese carmaker is developing the vehicle with Chinese joint ventures of
Guangqi Honda Automobile Co. and Dongfeng Honda Automobile Co. and will
create a new brand with them, he said. Nissan, which unveiled an upgraded
model of its Leaf EV last week, said it will introduce the car in China in
2018 or 2019.
Startup Electric SUV
Internet entrepreneur William Li’s Nio will start selling ES8, a
sport-utility vehicle powered only by batteries, in mid-December. The startup
is working with state-owned Anhui Jianghuai Automobile Group, which also is
in a venture with Volkswagen AG to introduce an electric SUV next year.
Why Electric Vehicles Are Coming But Not Yet Here: QuickTake Q&A
Tesla said in June that it’s working with the Shanghai government to explore
local manufacturing, a move that would allow it to achieve economies of scale
and bring down manufacturing, labor and shipping costs.
Though Chin has announced its intentions, the process will be complicated and
will take time for all the auto-sector regulators to come up with an
implementation plan, said Zhang Yang, a vice president at Nio. But it will
help set a clear direction for manufacturers, he said on the sidelines of the
Tianjin forum. China has the world’s largest scale of fossil-fuel vehicle
production facilities.
Changing Lane
“This will ask everyone, from energy and technology sectors as well as
traditional automakers, to change to the lane to develop new powertrains,’’
said Zhang. “It’s hard to say who can be the winners at the moment. All of
us should stand the test of speed and endurance in this run.’’
The U.K. said in July it will ban sales of diesel- and gasoline-fueled cars
by 2040, two weeks after France announced a similar plan to reduce air
pollution and meet targets to keep global warming below 2 degrees Celsius
(3.6 degrees Fahrenheit). Norway and the Netherlands are considering a more
aggressive way to put an end on fossil fuel cars years earlier than its
European peers.
作者: airmike (airmike)   2017-09-11 17:07:00
看来手上的车再开个七八年后 买到的不是混电就是纯电了
作者: volcom (南台灣建材小天王)   2017-09-11 17:10:00
要先禁柴油
作者: JEON (果然是乡民的世界)   2017-09-11 17:18:00
其他国家讲没差 中国讲最好笑 中国电有够脏
作者: YJM1106 (YM)   2017-09-11 17:22:00
我觉得你完全搞错什么叫做死缓…
作者: wellkom (wellkom)   2017-09-11 17:24:00
中国柴油车本来就很稀有了~ 鼻用担心
作者: xxxcat (喵凹~~)   2017-09-11 17:25:00
大陆未来应该是走氢燃料
作者: wellkom (wellkom)   2017-09-11 17:25:00
那应该会满街爆炸吧 ˊ~
作者: amou1030 (手牵手一起走过)   2017-09-11 17:32:00
反观台湾这个政府.....想成为联合国一员却不做些国际前瞻计画
作者: wellkom (wellkom)   2017-09-11 17:40:00
瞻最远就是四年了啦~ 你刚来的吧?
作者: OrzOGC (洞八达人.拖哨天王)   2017-09-11 17:43:00
台湾根本没本钱和别人玩禁燃油车
作者: Killercat (杀人猫™)   2017-09-11 17:44:00
这比喻不好 死缓其实意思几乎等同于“不用死” XD也就是逃过死刑的意思
作者: DYE (跟脑残争最后都会变脑残.)   2017-09-11 17:51:00
中国的公路运输大于铁道 大量的货运用的柴油车在路上因为中国运输大量使用柴油 才反而不鼓励柴油小车因为柴油相对比较紧缺
作者: YJM1106 (YM)   2017-09-11 17:53:00
老司机,你看这加油站的柴油纯不纯
作者: DYE (跟脑残争最后都会变脑残.)   2017-09-11 17:55:00
中国的城乡差距相当大 公路的里程相当长还有小地方连油都加不到 更不要说现在讨伦要全面电动化只要油电混合 这还可能性大一点
作者: aimlin ( )   2017-09-11 18:03:00
有差吗 到时买低价的油车就好
作者: artiller (砲仔)   2017-09-11 18:05:00
好奇中国西部地区要怎么普及电动车+1
作者: wellkom (wellkom)   2017-09-11 18:06:00
中国的太阳能渗透率比台湾高,西部日照时间又多
作者: artiller (砲仔)   2017-09-11 18:06:00
汽油还有可能随车携带,但电就没办法
作者: artiller (砲仔)   2017-09-11 18:09:00
不过想想好像也没差,那只是少少少数人的问题住在没水没电的地方就不要买电动车了
作者: com3 (com3)   2017-09-11 18:10:00
汽油粉崩溃
作者: wellkom (wellkom)   2017-09-11 18:10:00
毕竟这是一个 365 天都很神奇的可以吃到新鲜西瓜的国家
作者: kazami (高处不胜寒)   2017-09-11 18:24:00
这个看看就好 等时间到了 禁了再说 政策随时会改变的
作者: mepass (努力浪费人生)   2017-09-11 18:28:00
中国只要中央一声令下 什么事做不到
作者: kazami (高处不胜寒)   2017-09-11 18:31:00
所以他也不用定什么2040,只要说5年后禁卖燃油车就行了
作者: nctufish (暂 别 校 园)   2017-09-11 18:33:00
纯汽油比柴油耗油 CO更毒 CO2暖化 应该会最早消失
作者: yohko86 (Rex)   2017-09-11 18:33:00
想到前几天YYP的MAZDA新引擎体验提到的指桑骂槐 只是一味的推行电动车 却没针对发电来源做检讨改善(尤其是火力发电) 也只是做到排碳排污的移转和集中 对于降低改善根本没帮助
作者: l79cm (欧亚美跌 义股优)   2017-09-11 18:39:00
就算是火力发电也对分散噪音空气污染集中化有帮助光市区怠速这段油耗跟空污根本就可以省下
作者: centaurjr (QQ)   2017-09-11 18:53:00
10年后都不知道下一任会不会做了,还20~30年后的政策不就跟京都议定书一样说改就改,更何况这连条约都不是
作者: DYE (跟脑残争最后都会变脑残.)   2017-09-11 19:03:00
中国的长途货运或是客运业者 24小时在路上跑很常见如果强制要停下来充电三五小时 一天要停一两次接受度是比较低
作者: wellkom (wellkom)   2017-09-11 19:06:00
就算这样我猜他们也是会有自己的规格,抽换电池什么的市场实在太大,要怎么完就怎么玩
作者: aries5420 (aries)   2017-09-11 19:12:00
盐董:我牌面最大,我说话
作者: robby515 (头哥)   2017-09-11 19:19:00
在我看中国的电动车远比台湾来的多
作者: iifz32 (yi yuan)   2017-09-11 19:38:00
排碳集中管理比多点排放好管理多了,说没帮助的是笑话吗..我也不是主张火力发电是对的,而是火力发电效率也比内燃机高,所以多点排放你要怎么管理你先告诉我吧xd
作者: JEON (果然是乡民的世界)   2017-09-11 20:06:00
作者: calase (万难地天纪柳)   2017-09-11 21:09:00
中国的政策是依据党和当代领导人的需求变动的...
作者: tangolosss (蛋疼)   2017-09-11 21:12:00
汽油粉 崩溃
作者: Frobel (幼稚教育之父)   2017-09-11 21:29:00
中国比民主国家更有本钱玩推动电动车阿...政令执行速度不能比 至于人民方不方便 阵痛期 不是考量中国几个大城市电动机车普及率很高 烂规格便宜车照样生活
作者: DYE (跟脑残争最后都会变脑残.)   2017-09-11 21:33:00
楼上说的的确是 政策上认为要做的事 平民反对是没用的但是现在如果是合法的 要你改 那补助的力度还是大的
作者: ru04hj4 (纯朴乡下人II)   2017-09-11 21:35:00
印度才扯吧 到现在还一堆乡下没电
作者: DYE (跟脑残争最后都会变脑残.)   2017-09-11 21:35:00
像现在要提升能源效率 你这个中频炉效率不好 以后不能用了国家出钱让你换效率好的炉子
作者: ru04hj4 (纯朴乡下人II)   2017-09-11 21:36:00
中国要做不会太难 现在就很多在做电动车
作者: flexin ((喘))   2017-09-11 21:56:00
这国家 要说从明天起停止贩售燃油车都行。虽然很夸饰XD
作者: ninjaxin (逢甲金城武)   2017-09-11 22:03:00
他国事务
作者: oiolo (浜森守)   2017-09-11 22:23:00
专制国家 要强制改短时间内改革完毕应该不难
作者: SakuraHana (樱花)   2017-09-11 22:41:00
环保是假议题,因为根本不环保,目的只是要保护自家的BYD,就像美国保护特斯拉
作者: DYE (跟脑残争最后都会变脑残.)   2017-09-11 22:53:00
BYD之外 中国制的车有九成有官股 大多是燃油车难道为了保护BYD , 牺牲其他的官股生产的车?网络上这样的人太多 为了自己的目的 脑补一个理由去抹黑
作者: furio (void)   2017-09-11 23:21:00
禁油车有什么好奇怪,这里可是连小孩子都可以禁的地方
作者: suntex01 (tears in my heart)   2017-09-12 00:04:00
乐观其成.不过,太阳能跟风力不一定稳,所以还是得要某种稳定的基载撑起电网稳定.
作者: ciswww (Farewell)   2017-09-12 00:34:00
是要可以快速升降载的电厂来配合才对
作者: LLika   2017-09-12 01:02:00
印度这缺电的国家那么早就要废弃燃机?
作者: hankQuQ (lovemoney)   2017-09-12 01:06:00
中国主要道路只要塞车 排出来的废气真他妈吓人
作者: alexlu70233 (congomaster)   2017-09-12 08:01:00
台湾先禁摩托车吧 有够落后
作者: wory (无忧男孩)   2017-09-12 09:15:00
这种日期还当真,台湾宣布2045禁燃料车ㄧ样,现正宣布的人到时还在吗?
作者: TryToBe (奋发低调鸡掰人)   2017-09-12 10:38:00
连加油站的地方都没有表示电力一定也紧缺 哪有余电给你用
作者: heyd (heyd)   2017-09-12 10:51:00
台湾表示:预定2117年禁售
作者: JEON (果然是乡民的世界)   2017-09-12 16:01:00
连印度都能宣誓你就知道有多好笑 根本跟风向随便喊喊而已
作者: DYE (跟脑残争最后都会变脑残.)   2017-09-13 00:26:00
事实上 我提出连"加油站都没有"这件事 主要是指城乡差距中国的大城市 建设有世界顶尖的水准但是有很大面积的乡村 基础建设或是某些营利项目 也很贫乏在这个议题就是 连设个加油站都不赚钱的地方 怎么设充电站一般的货运要到比较偏的地方 可以自备补充的油桶如果要纯电化 就困难得多但是 我认为 中国官方 也可能不在意这种小事 而去禁售油车说得好听一点 这是一个 为了大多数利益 而牺牲少数利益的国家说难听点 这是 少数管你去死的国家

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