Re: [请问] 为何"stein"有时唸"斯坦"有时唸"史汀"?

楼主: ostracize (bucolic)   2024-01-07 16:32:49
How to Pronounce Jeffrey Epstein (Real Life Examples!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxjG9N0yh-8
Jeffrey Edward Epstein (EP-steen; January 20, 1953 – August
10, 2019) was an American financier and sex offender.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein
名从主人,所以不同人的姓虽然拼字相同,读音也不同。
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/epstein
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Epstein
Both Epstein and Einstein are German -Jewish names based on the German word
for stone (Stein, pronounced shtine).
Many Jews in the USA - and other countries of the diaspora- came from
countries in Eastern Europe where they spoke Yiddish, a language based on a
German dialect. In Yiddish, — Stein is pronounced closer to steen and it is
this pronunciation which is largely used for names with the -ei diphthong.
The Epstein name and pronunciation has presumably come through the Eastern
European/ Yiddish route (so epp-steen)
On the other hand, Albert Einstein, coming from a middle class German Jewish
family, would have spoken German as a mother tongue and would most likely
have pronounced the name according to standard German pronunciation
(something like ine-shtine). As the sht- combination is not known in English,
the pronunciation became corrupted (in the English speaking world) to
ine-stine.
https://reurl.cc/97GgWX
作者: MrTaxes (得粥加汤)   2024-01-07 18:48:00
原来竟然有如此渊源,感谢资讯提供....
作者: chamber (年年有余)   2024-01-07 21:27:00
另一个考虑的因素是名字使用者是不是移民第一代仍受母语影响,第二三代以后就会用美语发音方式为多。
作者: jollybighead (快乐的大头)   2024-01-07 23:06:00
名字通常是父母给的,该怎么念自然是看父母怎么发音
作者: chamber (年年有余)   2024-01-07 23:22:00
哈哈 首先一般人不知道取名的爸妈怎么念,也不会去查证,再来名字使用者可能有非常现实的考量,例如不想一直纠正宁愿妥协、或者希望听起来像英文以利融入移民社会。这也反应在很多汉人姓氏变成英文后的唸法都非常不一样。
作者: MrTaxes (得粥加汤)   2024-01-07 23:47:00
想到之前那位批评课纲的北一女国文老师-区桂芝很多人看到她的姓"区"都直接念"屈",但其实念"欧"~
作者: jollybighead (快乐的大头)   2024-01-07 23:51:00
受母语影响不就看爸妈怎么发音??然后小孩讲自己的名字就是从父母发音而来??并不用查证...
作者: TokiwaKurumi (常磐胡桃)   2024-01-07 23:52:00
语言是会改变的不同地区有不同发音很正常
作者: jollybighead (快乐的大头)   2024-01-07 23:55:00
所以移民第二代才会变成美语发音,不就如此??
作者: Kukuxumusu (Kukuxumusu)   2024-01-08 00:39:00
语言会改变啊 那天才在reddit讨论美国加拿大澳洲 有很多或欧洲(甚至中东)的地名被移植过去 但现在发音都大变
作者: chamber (年年有余)   2024-01-08 14:48:00
我认识的移民姓名是非常多元唸法的,对家人,台湾同胞,公司白人同事可以不同唸法。谁管爸妈XD
作者: Kazamatsuri (专业领队)   2024-01-08 20:59:00
就名从主人原则,欧美多半欢迎你直接问他名字怎么唸自己乱唸唸错是很不礼貌的,甚至有冒犯的意思 XD
作者: MEOWWW (meow)   2024-01-08 21:59:00
好文

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