Re: [新闻] OpenAI:已掌握DeepSeek盗用模型证据

楼主: icrose (嗯,咳咳)   2025-01-30 09:08:09
这篇文章的核心意思就是
我们掌握著一些窍门,可以提升回答质素的那些,我们早就实践,而且怕被快速追上,所以把他们闭源了
但是这些诀窍被中国人自己研究出来了
还有一些技巧,早就可打破一味堆算力的疯狂势头,但是为了保护美国七巨头现在
极好的股票上升势头。我们把它们搁置了,ds一出,我们不得不把低成本部署的算法都拿出来准备实施了
现在的问题就是,一直靠堆算力堆数据堆电力就能到达AGI的幻境破灭了
投资人的狂热消散了。起码第一波狂热终于被点破了
※ 引述《Lushen (pttlushen)》之铭言:
: OpenAPI 的 Chief Research Officer (首席研究员)
: Mark Chen 2025/01/29 凌晨发了一波推文评价 Deepseek R1 的论文
: https://i.imgur.com/A73X07x.png
: https://i.imgur.com/rjDczVH.png
: 恭喜 DeepSeek 产出了一个 o1 级别的推理模型!他们的研究论文显示,他们独立发现了
: 一些我们在通往 o1 道路上所找到的核心理念。
: 不过,我认为外界的反应有些过度,特别是在成本相关的叙事上。拥有两种范式(预训练
: 和推理)的一个重要影响是,我们可以在两个轴向上最佳化能力,而不是只有一个,这将
: 带来更低的成本。
: 但这也意味着我们有两个可以扩展的轴向,而我们计划在这两个方向上都积极投入算力!
: 随着蒸馏(distillation)技术的成熟,我们也看到降低成本和提升能力这两者之间的关
: 系越来越解耦。能够以更低的成本提供服务(尤其是在较高延迟的情况下),并不代表能
: 够产生更强的能力。
: 我们将持续改进模型的低成本部署能力,但我们仍对研究路线保持乐观,并将专注于执行
: 计划。我们很兴奋能在本季度及今年内推出更优秀的模型!
: Congrats to DeepSeek on producing an o1-level reasoning model! Their research
: paper demonstrates that they’ve independently found some of the core ideas
: that we did on our way to o1.
: However, I think the external response has been somewhat overblown,
: especially in narratives around cost. One implication of having two paradigms
: (pre-training and reasoning) is that we can optimize for a capability over
: two axes instead of one, which leads to lower costs.
: But it also means we have two axes along which we can scale, and we intend to
: push compute aggressively into both!
: As research in distillation matures, we're also seeing that pushing on cost
: and pushing on capabilities are increasingly decoupled. The ability to serve
: at lower cost (especially at higher latency) doesn't imply the ability to
: produce better capabilities.
: We will continue to improve our ability to serve models at lower cost, but we
: remain optimistic in our research roadmap, and will remain focused in
: executing on it. We're excited to ship better models to you this quarter and
: over the year!
: : 喊得很大声,做出来的不过就那样
作者: PaulPierce34 (Braveheart)   2025-01-30 09:26:00
有点像仿制药的历史,软件应该更难封锁技术复制
作者: sunpedro0202 (Pedro)   2025-01-30 09:50:00
好啦不然你推说要买啥啊
作者: ppdogininder (pp狗)   2025-01-30 11:28:00
别造谣 门外汉就别乱评论

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