Re: [讨论] 关于模联 (恐英文者慎入)

楼主: CrystalCastl (CrystalWolf)   2016-08-24 16:54:16
※ 引述《backpacker18 (犀牛好可爱)》之铭言:
: 引用原文
: “
: To the MUN community.
: First, right off the bat, I’m stating that I respect each and everyone’s o
pi
: nions. I also understand that we all see things in a different limelight- th
er
: efore I’m writing this to express mine. Hope that others will treat me with
t
: he same amount of respect, but also feel free to share your opinions in a “
di
: plomatic courtesy”. (Also, yes. I’m writing this in english, because it’s
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: he language I’m most comfortable using. Not because I’m a “Western wannab
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: ”, believe it or not. Though I’m contemplating posting a Mandarin version.
..
: )
: 1. Regarding how “MUN is now only a rich man’s game”.
: If you’re going to be complaining about the ridiculous prices of some confe
re
: nces, please, um, don’t when you’ve CHOSEN to go to those conferences. Yes
,
: I agree. There are some conferences that I would really like to go to, but,
un
: fortunately, they are overpriced. Now, idk why they’ve come to be this expe
ns
: ive or wth they are doing with the money, but, here’s a thing: don’t choos
e
: to go to them. Pretty simple, right? You can find conferences ranging from 2
00
: NT to 6000+ NT. Why not choose going to the cheaper ones? It’ll save you a
l
: ot of saliva and typing. Who knows, maybe if lesser people are going to expe
ns
: ive conferences they’ll end up lowering the price (?
: 2. Regarding how “MUN is only for people who are good at English”.
: Here’s the thing: there are so many aspects to MUN. It’s not just about ho
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: good your english is, it’s also about articulating your thoughts, approachi
ng
: people with diplomatic courtesy, thinking critically, putting yourself in d
if
: ferent POVs...etc. However, I’ll admit that people with better english can
ac
: hieve all these easier in an ENGLISH conference. And vice versa, in a CHINES
E
: conference. If I attended a conference in Chinese, tbh I don’t think I’ll
be
: able to perform as well compared to English conferences. Yes, I’ll still h
av
: e my own critical thinking intact, but it’s merely just because I’m (1) no
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: confident enough in using it and (2) I’m not as fluent in it compared to my
E
: nglish. Nowadays, practically every conference has at least one chinese comm
it
: tee. It’s a CHOICE. I don’t think being good in english is something to br
ag
: about, and vice versa with chinese, too. Just because a person speaks engli
sh
: well, doesn’t mean that they have anything in their brains to offer.
: 3. Regarding “Westernization”.
: I honestly think that the people that are making a fuss about this are child
is
: h and have not taken anything from MUN at all. If some people want to speak
mo
: re “western” or act more “western”, LET THEM BE. Honestly, is it hurting
y
: ou? Is it hurting your cat? Your dog? The environment? The world? No. Some p
eo
: ple might just respect more cultures more than others. What about 韩流 or 日

: or whatever- 流?I don’t see anything wrong with that. And regarding peopl
e
: who think westernization equals international. First off, westernization doe
s
: not equal to international. Take Donald Trump for example. Enough said.
: 4. Regarding how “some delegates just follow around delegates that are more
w
: ell-spoken”.
: It’s true that this happens a lot. But I think that everyone’s abilities a
nd
: experiences with MUN are different. Some might be less experience, therefor
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: they’d naturally want to latch onto an experienced delegate that makes them
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: eel more at ease or someone they think can guide them. Thinking back at when
I
: first started MUN as a 7th grader, it was something I was guilty of, too. A
nd
: I think a lot of people will experience when first starting out. Just becau
se
: now you get BDs all the time or you’re a bloc leader or you get offers to
ch
: air doesn’t mean that you are in any way better than them. Instead of posti
ng
: on FB and complaining about this, why not actually approach those certain d
el
: egates and ask why they’ve chosen to join a certain bloc or give some encou
ra
: gement? You could even yield some time to them. All of us were beginners at
fi
: rst. How high of a pedestal do you put yourself on that you’d actually disc
ri
: minate or dislike the delegates that are doing the things you previously did
?
: 5. Regarding how “MUN is not about the academics anymore”.
: I agree. Completely. It’s not just about the academics. It’s about how pro
fe
: ssional the conference room is. If the social event is “dope” enough. If t
he
: guys/girls in your committee are hot. If the page notes they give you are c
ut
: e. If you meet new friends. If you meet old friends. If you get a t-shirt. I
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: you make unforgettable memories. If the food there is good. If you spent a l
on
: g time researching and preparing. If it’ll look good on your college applic
at
: ion form. If you improved from your last conference. If the photographers ta
ke
: good photos that make you look taller than you actually are (Is this one ju
st
: me? Kay.). What I’m trying to say is- everyone sees MUN differently, and e
ve
: ryone attends MUN for different reasons. Some might see the importance in ac
ad
: emics, some might not. If you really want to attend a conference with impres
si
: onable academics, ask a friends for some reviews or do some research. I’m p
re
: tty sure if you’ve been in the MUN community long enough, you already have
a
: basic impression on most conferences. Regardless of people’s motives for at
te
: nding MUN, we should just respect each other. At the end of the day, it’s t
he
: ir money, not yours.
: Lastly, some people might disagree with me or think that I’m just naive or
wh
: atever. But coming from a fairly young MUNer that started out in 7th grade a
nd
: is now a rising 10th grader, I think that all the so-called problems are se
lf
: -inflicted. We all have a part in why the MUN society in Taiwan has become t
hi
: s way. I admit that sometimes I’m very under-prepared or I use English as a
n
: advantage in conferences. Therefore, what I’m just trying to say is:
: Don’t bitch about it if you are one of the causes of these so-called proble
ms
: - start by changing yourself first . ”
: 这是一个模联社的副社长写的
: 本人看完虽也有些微词,但自己本身也没参加过模联,不太好做评论
: 想请问板上参加过模联的大大给点意见,自己参加过的模联是否像她说的这样?
: 原文网址
: https://m.facebook.com/notes/sidney-khoe/to-the-mun-community/72437574770342
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: 英文颇多抱歉惹
: 不习惯看英文的也可以趁机会练阅读(?
以下是我在此文笔者fb个人页面的留言,跟大家分享一下,请各位不吝赐教
1、文中提到从200元到6000元的mun都有,但事实上价格低于1000元的mun并不多而低价的
会议通常不包含住宿,但我自己办过会议,我知道这可能是难以避免的,资金的部分可能
需要外界的金援(ex 企业 政府),但大部分的会议对于高中生以及一般家庭来说非常昂贵
我相信是不争的事实。
2.文中提到英文能力在模联中不是唯一,我不否认,但事实上在会议中若无法流畅的
使用英文,便无法适当的表达自己的言论,也无法成功的使自己的想法被倾听,而中
文会在台湾似乎也并不是发展的十分完善,往往仅仅是用以作为“模联新手村来使用
”,因此就算有妳提出的两个方案,英文不流利的人要展开模联之路困难度还是非常
高的。
3.关于文中提到所谓韩流日流等流行文化的类比,我相信这和模联中常见的“欧
美主流化”是不同面向的东西,常见的日流和韩流多为强势的主流文化,影响的
面向包括穿着、用语、饮食等,而“欧美主流化”则是由于欧美国家掌握强势媒
体以及新闻话语权所造成的,影响就触及了我们对于国际事件的看法,长久之下
的影响自然严重于流行文化所能造成的,而模联参与者中又有许多人误将欧美化
认为国际话,便更加使人担忧。
总规下来,模联的确是一个充满阶级的活动,能够在模联场上看见的高中生
,通常来自私立高中、前段国立高中、以及国际或双语学校,而这些学生自
己本身除了代表在高中生社群中的特定阶级之外,他们所出身的家庭在社会
上也多半为中上阶级,才有办法培养一个能够参加模联的孩子(ex:英文能
力培养、教育资源)
因此,模联便形成了一个充满阶级成分的活动,不论其立意多么良善,
现阶段的模联活动能触及的只有特定阶层或身份的学生,因为这个活动
的门槛实在太高了,而我们身为参与者,认知到这个问题之后应该要开
始检讨的是现今的模联活动要如何触及更多不同来源的学生。
作者: backpacker18 (It's Fucking RAWWWW)   2016-08-24 22:33:00
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