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楼主: turechirex (......想不到)   2015-11-23 20:45:43
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标题: [情报] Fallout 4: 11 Reasons It’s A Disappoi
时间: Mon Nov 23 20:30:16 2015
Fallout 4: 11 Reasons It’s A Disappointment
连结:
http://whatculture.com/gaming/fallout-4-11-reasons-its-a-disappointment.php
Jack Pooley
Whether you’ve blasted through the campaign or only just scraped the
surface, gamers the world over have now been able to sink a wealth of time
into Bethesda’s latest RPG opus, the rapturously-reviewed Fallout 4.
That said, the initial afterglow is starting to die down, meaning it’s time
to put the adoring fanboyism beyond and take a more critical look at the
areas where the game falls down, because for everything FO4 gets right, it
also leaves plenty to be desired.
From technical issues to lazy corner-cutting, bizarre design choices and
elements that feel like a step back from previous Fallout games, there’s
plenty of quibbles that prevent the game from being the masterpiece it was so
clearly capable of.
11. Those Ridiculous Loading Times
In an era where the PS4 and Xbox One are promising smoother, faster load
times than ever, Fallout 4 sadly embarrasses them by boasting average load
times on consoles of 30-50 seconds in length.
Sure, this wouldn’t be a problem if it appeared infrequently, but
considering the amount of fast-traveling you’re likely to be doing
throughout the game, it can be especially aggravating if you need to quickly
travel between several areas, resulting in a number of near-back-to-back
loading screens.
When other, much better looking games can muster load times of 5-10 seconds,
it’s rather aggravating that the game wastes so much player time loading
everything in. Yes, it’s widely accepted that Bethesda’s engine is a mess,
but is this really acceptable on current-gen tech, let alone a PC (though it
admittedly isn’t as bad on PC)?
In fairness, fans were made aware of this one a while back, when the initial
trailer didn’t even attempt to mask the fact that Fallout 4 just doesn’t
look that great. Yes, it’s dripping in atmosphere and has a ton of mood,
while the world-building is incredible, but on a basic aesthetic level, the
game is fairly ugly.
The textures are bland and flat, animations are often jerky and the lip sync
is so laughably bad it’s a surprise Bethesda even bothered. While this has
been par for the course in pretty much every game the developer has made, it’
s fairly disappointing that they’ve made a game that looks like it could
probably be released at the tail-end of the PS3, or at the very most as a
launch title for PS4.
Graphics absolutely aren’t everything, but they are something, and this is
one area where the commitment and attention-to-detail of the world as a whole
just isn’t found.
FO4 has been slammed even by those who generally love the game for the poor
(or sometimes non-existent) manner in which it describes fairly basic
gameplay elements.
For example, when you’re first able to build settlements and edit the
environment around you, the game provides very little information on
something as simple as connecting a power generator, all the more infuriating
as the player is actually required to do this once in the campaign.
Then there’s cracking passwords on computer terminals which again is poorly
explained even if players will eventually get the hang of it, it’s possible
to go hours without realising there’s an advanced perk system, and you
possibly don’t know how to holster your gun or shoot from cover.
There’s a lot to be said for keeping in-game prompts and text to a minimum
in order to sustain the immersion factor, but it would’ve been cool to know
these things right out of the gate…
It wouldn’t be a Bethesda game without a ton of glitches, but holy crap,
this game is absolutely riddled with them. Be it the infamous “meatspin”
glitch which has plagued every 3D Fallout game (pictured above), characters
getting snagged on random objects for no reason, dialogue not being subtitled
or skipping altogether, the player being teleported across the map, enemies
getting flung into the air for no reason or any of the other endless amount
of glitches, it’s astounding that they all made it into the final game.
While it’s understandably impossible for Bethesda to QA everything, the
final product suggests their QA department consisted of a single pot-smoking
intern with a severe case of Friday Afternoon Syndrome.
Though some players insist they’ve not encountered a single glitch and
others are prepared to put up with the jankiness because of the “charm” it
infuses into the game, many just expect a AAA game of this stature to be
significantly more polished. Compared to, say, Metal Gear Solid V, it’s hot
garbage from a presentational perspective.
这算是我看过写得最全面的FO4 11个令人失望点的评测文了。
其中有些地方觉得作者讲的体验的还蛮深入的,
当然也有我觉得不认同的地方,像第2点我是觉得…,
不提人物模组的话,户外效果其实算不错。
有兴趣的人可以看看。
不过如果觉得看英文太累了?没关系。
有人帮忙翻成中文
http://www.gigcasa.com/articles/185078
《辐射4》令人失望的11个地方
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YA~~~~
作者: kuninaka   2014-11-23 20:31:00
YA~~~~
作者: AerobladeIII (OGC空气刀三)   2014-11-23 20:32:00
YO~~~~~
作者: xxtuoo (浪费时间不好QQ)   2014-11-23 20:35:00
"人家最讨厌fo4你了" "fo4你可要好好负起责任喔"..真麻烦w
楼主: turechirex (......想不到)   2014-11-23 20:37:00
我其实在是查枭雄的技能树时看到的。不过可以打脸FO4就是爽~~~~!!!YA~!!!
作者: valkylin2 (CDPR Fans)   2015-11-23 20:51:00
1 4 5 6 7 9 这五点有同意到 但是瑕不掩瑜这款让我睡眠不足的程度跟巫师三差不多 XDDDDDD读取时间我放在M5P 512G或是Intel 750 400G都读很久...其实我目前最困扰的不是bug 是打完一堆对手 都会找不到鲔鱼检....尤其是一整个区域4-5只怪在打带跑.....
作者: neogetter (neo)   2015-11-23 20:53:00
好厉害可以打脸FO4,你一定很开心,恭喜你了!
楼主: turechirex (......想不到)   2015-11-23 20:55:00
身为一个专业的黑粉,看了超爽的~!!!
作者: ayubabbit (ウォロックが倒せな)   2015-11-23 20:59:00
总觉得大部分reason都可以套在skyrim身上结果skyrim还是拿goty 看来fo4稳了
楼主: turechirex (......想不到)   2015-11-23 21:02:00
UGOTY都出来了= =,还在FO4?他等明年吧skyrim是当年引擎升级后的第一作当然令人惊艳但快四年过去了赚那么多,还在用同一个引擎,而且GTA又把3A游戏提升一个层次。FO4????
作者: ditano (小啾啾)   2015-11-23 21:04:00
缺点虽然多 但游戏性真的蛮高的
作者: ayubabbit (ウォロックが倒せな)   2015-11-23 21:08:00
还没啦 12/3才举办 fo4有入围啊http://thegameawards.com/nominees/
作者: justsay (说说而已)   2015-11-23 21:09:00
去RP板看到某t从愤怒开始转为自嗨 觉得有点同情了
楼主: turechirex (......想不到)   2015-11-23 21:11:00
看到那么多人脸那么肿,超爽的GOTY很多家厂商办啊= =。
作者: e04su3no (钢铁毛毛虫)   2015-11-23 21:23:00
如果在TW3前发售而且MOD已经成熟还有可能
作者: wolf9420 (Mr.Rorensu)   2015-11-23 21:24:00
老FO迷只在意第11点,而这是最大的问题
作者: e04su3no (钢铁毛毛虫)   2015-11-23 21:24:00
但他偏偏是在石之心之后这个大家对TW3还很深刻的时候
作者: xxtuoo (浪费时间不好QQ)   2015-11-23 21:25:00
@@a loading time? pc SSD完全无压力..害我死不用怕的w
作者: e04su3no (钢铁毛毛虫)   2015-11-23 21:26:00
无脑黑才会拿GTA和MGS来比较 但TW3完全没话说而且各方面几乎都是把FO4压着打
作者: ayubabbit (ウォロックが倒せな)   2015-11-23 21:29:00
ssd是一回事 这年头还有读取这么频繁的open world..我还以为我在玩gust game(棒读
作者: shun2010 (SHUN)   2015-11-23 21:53:00
这次主线也不差吧 只是终局兼用卡让我不太能接受不然个人认为比三代的找老爸跟NV的找谁要干掉你好多了很多缺点例如1、2、5、6、8、10这些不是前代就这样不然就是这代明明改善超多 又要鞭 实在有点莫名其妙
作者: igarasiyui (かゆい うま)   2015-11-23 21:57:00
目前4主线打到刚要去学院 但讲到NV NV主线绝对比3跟4好太多了好吗
作者: twodahsk (LL)   2015-11-23 21:57:00
NV的主线并不是找谁要干掉你...唉XD
作者: ray8082 (ray8082)   2015-11-23 21:58:00
脸最肿的不就某t自己吗?
作者: twodahsk (LL)   2015-11-23 21:58:00
如果不懂的话,可以给你个提示,想想四条路线的路线奖励
作者: shun2010 (SHUN)   2015-11-23 21:59:00
一开始的目的确实是那样啊 是后续陷入派系的斗争的旗子
作者: igarasiyui (かゆい うま)   2015-11-23 21:59:00
然后4的支线目前觉得比较有感的也只有尼克的路线跟宪
作者: shun2010 (SHUN)   2015-11-23 22:00:00
大家都破过 不需要让您教 还有剧情喜好很主观
作者: igarasiyui (かゆい うま)   2015-11-23 22:00:00
法号 尤其宪法号升空我觉得还满值得一看的...
作者: igarasiyui (かゆい うま)   2015-11-23 22:01:00
但NV值得讲的更多 还有根本是恐怖游戏的某避难所...
作者: twodahsk (LL)   2015-11-23 22:02:00
的确,真是抱歉,这种争论太不毛了,我无意如此,请见谅
作者: valkylin2 (CDPR Fans)   2015-11-23 22:22:00
明明放SSD也读超久好不好 =3=
作者: dameontree (Curry萌萌)   2015-11-23 22:26:00
读取太久+1....... 又不是换地图区域 小房间也要读= =
作者: roka (吃狗肉)   2015-11-23 22:33:00
在RP板被修理到只能来这取暖也满可怜的。
作者: bill6613 (bill6613)   2015-11-23 22:35:00
读取真的太久,像巫师3的无接缝做的很好,几乎没在读取的
作者: California (世上最遥远的距离)   2015-11-23 22:42:00
NV主线支线都赢4不少 当然这是个人感觉囉
楼主: turechirex (......想不到)   2015-11-23 23:02:00
有人追着我到处跑,算不算我的酸粉啊?
作者: Kamikiri (☒☒)   2015-11-23 23:19:00
靠邀 我都看完英文了 你才给我中文网址 XDDDDDDDD
作者: roka (吃狗肉)   2015-11-23 23:39:00
再怎么追着你跑也没你对FO4的怨念深啊XD
作者: ray8082 (ray8082)   2015-11-23 23:42:00
别这样啊 1800很贵 让他从发售吐到现在
作者: probsk (红墨水)   2015-11-23 23:42:00
读取有比血源慢吗?
作者: ray8082 (ray8082)   2015-11-23 23:45:00
我玩ps4版 感觉跟巫师3差不多的读取时间
作者: efreet (Soth)   2015-11-23 23:52:00
读取跟目前血源差不多吧,大概很难找到比血源更新前还慢的
楼主: turechirex (......想不到)   2015-11-23 23:53:00
玩pc版比tw3慢多了,而且很多地方都要读开门也读,移动也读,而且很慢巫师3跟枭雄都值回票价,fo4?没买的先把钱省下来吧白老鼠已经够多了等更新完整或是年度版再买就好
作者: cocowing (wing)   2015-11-24 00:22:00
Steam版的beta更新开放了,不知道修正了什么
作者: clubee (柏拉)   2015-11-24 00:29:00
NV剧情对话真的大胜 少了1.2代经典配乐也有点可惜不过还是很好玩啊XD
作者: serval623 (洛杉磯強姦人)   2015-11-24 01:01:00
小房间也读很久是很讨厌
楼主: turechirex (......想不到)   2015-11-24 01:31:00
看了一下,steam上的news有写详细改进的点。不过我没兴趣,因为我已经删了XDDD
作者: KYLAT (凯拉特)   2015-11-24 04:29:00
VGA游戏奖是最高殿堂吧……不是有电玩奥斯卡之称,典礼上还会公开一堆新游戏情报
楼主: turechirex (......想不到)   2015-11-24 09:00:00
欧洲也有金摇杆啊vga5个作品中只有一个是美国作的,3个日本、一个波兰,想也知道谁会赢
作者: kuninaka   2015-11-24 09:08:00
The Witcher 3会赢阿,赞今年太棒了,RPG都很强传统的可以玩pillars of eternity冒险的可以玩Fallout 4啪啪啪的有The Witcher 3这三款明年还会出DLC和资料片
作者: bill6613 (bill6613)   2015-11-24 10:01:00
FO4一直读取很烦
作者: xxtuoo (浪费时间不好QQ)   2015-11-24 10:11:00
@@a读取有这么严重? 现在年轻人真心急..进出据点读一下还好吧..通常一个据点不都可探好一阵子.GG加载次数还比较多w
作者: fetoyeh (小叶)   2015-11-24 10:27:00
枭雄比FO4值回票价? 这款顶多就是没犯大错 评价真是高啊
作者: wolf9420 (Mr.Rorensu)   2015-11-24 12:43:00
NV的主线支线处理比4代好多了吧... 再说要求它比前面几代好很正常吧,跟其他游戏比确实没有那么出色啊
作者: unorthodoxy (啡垫辛)   2015-11-24 13:18:00
还是参考这种文比较有价值 这次玩家投票掉这么多不是没原因
作者: lucandy09 (LUC)   2015-11-24 13:33:00
→ turechirex: 不过可以打脸FO4就是爽~~~~!!!YA~!!!
作者: probsk (红墨水)   2015-11-24 13:39:00
FO4是一个大家期望他有95分 实际却是85分的游戏不过把他喷的像是只有55分完全是个人的问题
楼主: turechirex (......想不到)   2015-11-24 14:16:00
实际是85分?你给分的标准真宽松。我只给70分
作者: uowa (去你妈的读者)   2015-11-24 14:27:00
第10点,你忍的住不买嘛?哈哈哈
作者: uujidggl (幼)   2015-11-24 18:54:00
上古5跟巫师3一下就不晕了.fo4真的受不了的想吐..
楼主: turechirex (......想不到)   2015-11-24 23:06:00
我fo4很难得不会晕耶@@,但枭雄让我觉得惧高症....

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