[情报] 海盗PSU总监反驳“海盗使用最便宜代工”

楼主: cody880528 (Summon)   2020-05-26 17:31:45
https://bit.ly/36xdMlF
在爬SF750相关文章的使用又爬到这篇留言 觉得蛮有趣的
原PO (看帐号纪录应该是台湾人 可能是乡民):
Corsair product is not cheap, but they find the cheapest manufacturer.
SF750 is made by Chinese company call "Greatwall", the third-class power
manufacturer in China. I am not surprised when I saw Corsair PSU failure with
these Chinese vendor.
I hope Corsair stop offer PSU order to these Chinese manufacturer. In
contrast, FSP, DELTA, SEASONIC, these factory which located in Taiwan have
better quality.
海盗船的产品不便宜,但他们却找最便宜的代工厂。
SF750是由一家叫做“长城”的中国公司做的,那是中国的三等制造商。中国制造的海盗
船PSU故障我完全不意外。
我希望海盗停止向中国厂商下单。相反的,全汉、台达、海韵,这些在台湾的工厂品质比
较好。
成功钓到海盗船PSU总监回应:
No offense, but you know absolutely nothing about what you are speaking of.
1st: Seasonic, FSP and Delta do NOT manufacture in Taiwan. They are merely
Taiwan based. In fact, ALL power supplies for ATX/SFX PC's are manufactured
in China. Even factories in Taiwan and Vietnam use "semi-knockdown kits"
(SKD) that were initially made in China and only the final assembly is done
off short.
2nd: Seasonic isn't even a tier one. They have great engineering, but PCBA,
etc. is all outsourced. Only final assembly is done at Seasonic's CHINA
factory.
3rd: If FSP made a PSU as good as Great Wall, Corsair would use them. But FSP
is hung up on their active clamp reset forward topology and until they decide
to enter the 21st century and use LLC resonant like everyone else, they're
out of contention.
4th: Delta is too focused on producing for white box PSUs for the likes of
Dell, etc. You'll note that there hasn't been a Delta made retail unit in
nearly a decade (Antec?)
5th: Great Wall is not "third class". In fact, they're actually a tier one.
All of their manufacturing is done in house. They're actually the largest PSU
manufacturer in China.
没有恶意,但你完全不知道你自己在讲什么
1. 海韵、全汉、台达根本不在台湾制造。他们只是总部在台湾而已。事实上,所有ATX/
SFX的电脑电源供应器都是中国制造。连台湾和越南的工厂都是用原本中国制的散料装
(semi-knockdown kits),而且也只负责最后阶段的组装
2. 海韵根本也不是Tier 1。他们的工程技术很棒,但是电路板组装(PCBA)等,全部都是
外包的。只有最后阶段的组装是在海韵的中国工厂完成。
3. 如果全汉做的PSU能和长城的一样好,海盗就会选全汉了。但是全汉还卡在他们的
ACRF拓朴(ctive clamp reset forward),在他们打算进入21世纪并且改和所有其他
人一样使用LLC谐振槽电路前,他们完全不在竞争内
PS https://wolflsi.pixnet.net/blog/post/68304246
之前狼大评测钢弹的时候可以看到钢弹的Ripple表现并不好,就和ACRF有关
4. 台达忙着帮戴尔等做白盒PSU。你可以发现近十年都没有台达制的零售PSU (Antec?)
5. 长城并不是“三流”。事实上,他们其实是Tier 1。他们所有的制造都是在内部完
成的。而且他们是中国最大的PSU制造商。
作者: jackwula9211 (Carbon.)   2020-05-26 17:36:00
但长城炸了。
作者: fantasyhorse (水多多)   2020-05-26 17:36:00
全汉还在用forward架构???低毛利台达不肯做吧, 这种代工毛利率都不高看隔壁team帮CM代工都cost down到极致
作者: simonohmygod (曼聯魂)   2020-05-26 17:40:00
这篇好像蛮有趣的 推一下
作者: fantasyhorse (水多多)   2020-05-26 17:40:00
不过这总监没说错, PC power早就全都made in china.楼上ID不易外XDXD代工毛利率低..diy量又少,当然不太想做
作者: bluesapphire (Blue Sapphire)   2020-05-26 18:01:00
好文
作者: zweihander99 (zweihander)   2020-05-26 18:11:00
笑死,想推荐被打脸
作者: Luciferspear   2020-05-26 18:22:00
好多神兽浮上哈哈
作者: freeblizzard (What Have I Done?!)   2020-05-26 18:23:00
但你家的高阶系列都找海韵欸…想cost down就说啊 海盗慢走不送
作者: iloveyou1019 (digits31)   2020-05-26 18:33:00
楼上小心挨告台湾人是很善良的,来个促销补偿吧
作者: zxcasdjason1 (nice_Sky)   2020-05-26 19:10:00
看完这回复我打死不再买这家货 口吻有够嚣张炸了也是事实 完全没要对这点回应贵不是重点,同样代工厂品质相似,但这处理态度不值得多花钱。重点不是长城长还是短,是你家产品爆炸,还有也承认有问题,啊后续有没有要耐心处理,嘴消费者我还以为暴雪勒请问全汉有爆炸过的苦主吗 好奇
作者: fantasyhorse (水多多)   2020-05-26 19:54:00
power哪有不炸的,如果有 只是你没遇到除非像这次品管问题整批炸的,不然偶尔炸根本很正常
作者: strollinrain   2020-05-26 21:02:00
故意漏CM?
作者: bluesapphire (Blue Sapphire)   2020-05-26 22:03:00
如果他说其他几家现况玩法都没错,那也没啥好澄清阿

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