[外絮] Horford on Delly

楼主: kart (=\)   2015-05-25 14:56:34
http://goo.gl/zTPGaA
这篇原文争议那么多却没人想碰,
因为两边球员本来就都会各有立场和情绪说话,
可是看完慢动作各个角度重播,你无法说Delly是故意去压脚
是绝对可以肯定的。
Atlanta Hawks center Al Horford was ejected from Game 3 of the
Eastern Conference finals after picking up a flagrant-2 foul on
Matthew Dellavedova near the end of the second quarter on Sunday.
The Hawks went on to lose 114-111 in overtime. It was a
controversial call, as the Cleveland Cavaliers guard fell into his
legs before Horford came down on him.
Al因为这个球被驱逐出场,Cavs也听牌。
这个争议球起因于Delly跌倒在Al Horford脚上而Horford肘击了他。
Dellavedova has had similar incidents with Atlanta sharpshooter
Kyle Korver and Chicago Bulls big man Taj Gibson in the
postseason, so some thought it might have been intentional.
Regardless, Horford had to watch the remainder of the game with a
couple of the Hawks' trainers, trying to send good vibes. He said
it hurt to not be out there with his teammates.
Delly的另两个争议球是Taj Gibson的夹脚事件和G2的KK事件。
有些人认为那是恶意的。
"I did think he went at me," Horford said. "But I should've
handled it better, shouldn't have got caught up in that. It's
something that I'll definitely learn from.
Horford说“在当下我的确认为他是针对我来的,但是我当时也应该
处理得更好,不应该被情绪所左右。这是一件我会从中学习的事。”
Horford didn't want to call Dellavedova a dirty player and praised
his competitiveness, but added that "there's gotta be a line at
some point."
Horford不愿意说Delly是个肮脏的球员,并且称赞了他的拼劲。
但是也说了“拼劲这事儿总是要有各界线在”
"We're out there competing," he said. "But he's gotta learn, I
mean he's only been in this league for a couple of years or
whatever, but he's gotta learn that at the end of the day it's a
big brotherhood here. Guys look out for each other and, I don't
think that it was malicious, but he's gotta learn."
“我们都在场上竞争,但是他必须要学习,我的意思是他在联盟只打了
两年或是什么的,但是他终究必须要去学习NBA是个大家庭。每个人都
要注意到对方,我不认为那是恶意的,但是他必须要去学习。”
Horford added that, in the heat of the moment, he told a referee,
"Listen, he went after my legs." He took responsibility for
retaliating, though, repeatedly calling it a very poor decision.
Horford说在比赛的激情中,他的确跟裁判说
“听着,这家伙是针对我的腿来的。”
但是他也替自己的行为扛下责任,不断地说他自己的举动很蠢。
"If it was on purpose or not, we don't know," Horford said. "Maybe
it wasn't on purpose. But, you know, with just his track record, I
just felt like it was."
“我们无法知道他是不是故意的,也许他不是。但是你知道,
他的历史让我当时觉得他就是针对我的腿来的。”
"I don't think when Al sees the play he's going to be mad about
it," Cleveland guard Iman Shumpert said. "[Dellavedova] respects
the game, Al respects the game, just happened."
香波说“我猜Al看完重播后他应该就不会生气了,Delly和Al都是尊重
比赛的人,这种球正好发生了。”
All three officials were unanimous on the call, according to
NBA.com's Steve Aschburner. Referee Ken Mauer said that Horford
received the flagrant-2 for "contact above the shoulders, to the
shoulder and head area of Dellavedova," while Dellavedova received
his tech for making contact with Horford's knee area.
三个比赛裁判一致认为Horford的举动完全符合NBA教科书上对二级恶犯
的定义,因此必须要驱逐出场
“多余不必要的非篮球动作直击对手肩膀以上的位置”
至于Delly的T是因为他的确有碰到Horford的膝盖位置
(注:Delly的T已经被NBA澄清说是他当下碎嘴挑衅,而不是因为碰到膝盖)
Atlanta head coach Mike Budenholzer said he watched the play, and
he wasn't sure whether or not it warranted an ejection because it
was hard to tell whether Horford hit Dellavedova's shoulder or
head first. If he hit his shoulder first, Budenholzer said there
should have been no ejection.
Bud则说他认为Horford没有打到Delly的头,他认为只打到肩膀再撞到头,
那应该不用驱逐。
"I really didn't see too much, but then I looked at the
replay," Hawks swingman DeMarre Carroll said. "I just seen
Dellavedova diving. You know, he did it to Kyle. He's one of our
starters and he gotta have surgery, he's out 4-6 months. And he
did it to Al. I think Al said, ‘Enough of this.' And he did what
he did.
开罗说“我当下真的没看到太多,然后我看了重播,
我只看到Delly俯冲。你知道的,他也俯冲去撞KK。然后KK现在要开刀ㄟ!
然后他现在又去这样对Al,我想Al只是想说“真够了!”所以就肘击下去了。”
(注:对KK那球可说Delly有俯冲动作,这球.....???)
"I think [Dellavedova] is just competitive, man," Carroll
continued. "Sometimes when you compete so hard, you can take it
overboard. So there's gotta be a fine line between competing and
being crazy. You know, Al just did what he thought was necessary
to protect our team and make a stand. And he got threw out."
开罗接下来说“我认为Delly只是打的有竞争性,但是有时候你竞争过头
你就可能造成伤害。竞争和打到起笑应该是有界线在的。你知道的,
Al只是想要保护我们的球队并且站出来。然后她被丢出场。”
Carroll added that, while going after a loose ball is OK, "when
you dive at people's feet, nothing but bad things are going to
happen."
开罗接下来说,去抢loose ball当然可以,“但是如果你往别人脚下冲,
总是会有坏事发生的。”
The incident might have decided Atlanta's season, but none of the
players wanted to use it as an excuse. The Hawks were able to
force overtime without Horford, Korver and Thabo Sefolosha, but
they just couldn't quite come away with the victory.
Unfortunately, this was a must-win, and now they're facing
elimination.
这件事情可能让老鹰的球季结束。没有球队可以从0-3逆转过。
"The referees, they went out there and looked at it for about 10
minutes until they got it right," Atlanta guard Kent Bazemore
said. "We can't really argue with that. But when you look at
[Dellavedova's] track record and his history, it's a lot of things
that can be said. But at the end of the day, it doesn't really
matter. We lost Al and we still had a game to play."
Kent说
“裁判们大概看了十分钟吧,直到他们认为判决正确为止。所以我们
无法对这个二级恶犯说啥。但是你必须要看看Delly的历史。这可是有很多
可以着墨的空间。当然比赛结束后这些都不重要了,我们少了Al而我们
当时还有比赛要打。”
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补充刚刚看到LBJ和Delly的赛后记者会,关于这个play的部分
(确定大意正确,不过等有人有transcript了可以帮忙补充原文)
记者问说开罗说往别人脚边冲(diving to others feet)是很糟糕的举动
LBJ本来想替Delly回答,但是Delly坚持自己回答:
“在G2的时候那球,球在我的肚子这边,我只想保护球并且赶快传出去,
今天这球,我的左手臂一直被Al跩著向外拖,我试图挣脱但是没办法,
然后我就跌倒了,我并没有去往别人脚边冲”
LBJ补充
“人们想把Delly安上一个肮脏的罪名,而我认为这是不正确也不对的,
Delly不是这样的人,不只因为他是我的队友我这样说,他就是打球很认真
用尽全力。有时候你们就放大这些play,G2我在空中的时候被人家用两手
推下来,但是我们不会去放大这一个play然后想说什么故事出来,但是你
知道的,笑”
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心得:
Delly整个突然红起来....不过平心而论季后赛这三个争议球,
两个球他算是被扁的一边 = =,至于KK那球连犯规都算不上,
却因为这样被老鹰球员说的恶名昭彰(输球边,可理解)
有些人说Delly是小贝型的,但是说实在话,以这三球来看可能也还不到吧?
夹Taj的脚我是不知道是什么原因,可能他被一直推一直推很不爽的诡异反击?
但是Taj把脚拔开以后又往前踹他不是自找的F2吗?= =
KK那球让KK报销可能当下没人会料到吧,
因为看起来也是个满常见的play,甚至常常看到自己人压到自己人的时候
最重要的是联盟也没有因为这球补吹犯规或是T什么鬼的,
(注:别忘了当时很多人护航的Olynyk之后可是被认证的F2)
表示这球是正常的一个篮球范畴的play
今天这球就更明显了,Delly是被Al拉到跌倒的,跌倒的时候他碰到了Al
的膝盖,但是他马上也用右手撑直了身体,如果肮脏,不是应该顺势
往后倒力压也是可以装个无辜?反正是被你Al拉倒的嘛?
结果他刚坐直就被Al来个肘击重压击倒,而且重播看起来其实很危险,
因为他左手当下完全是一个不自然的姿势被Al整个身体压,他反应快
赶快翻身否则搞不好骑士又多一个脱臼的~
所以Al这球被判F2的确是有原因的。
另外老鹰今天也很多针对Delly的小动作,Delly本来在这系列造成了老鹰
一些小麻烦,他黏TT型的防守给了老鹰后卫很大的麻烦。
上一场老鹰后对被Delly守时命中率是3/18,其他人守时是8/12。
所以老鹰肯定讨厌Delly,Delly能这么黏也是每天练习要防守KI练出来的不意外
但是因为他黏就说他脏,还是因为这三个play说他脏,
我是认为要有更多证据才能说他是个“有历史”的脏球员。
作者: submission22 (甩尾单轮车)   2015-05-25 15:01:00
太公又出现了 好想吐
作者: hbkhhhdx2006 (比格踢)   2015-05-25 15:18:00
LBJ被怎样犯规酸酸都嘛无视请海啤酒来翻啊呵呵靠杯是海熊
作者: cavitylapper (类聚)   2015-05-25 15:20:00
脏死了 到底是打球还是打人啊
作者: a31416701614   2015-05-25 15:30:00
这些play在以前根本小case 谁会去注意啊一下酸现代篮球太娘难看 一下又在那天祐来天祐去有需要打自己脸?
作者: horizontally (坏白)   2015-05-25 17:01:00
有道理
作者: sasakihiroto (白狗)   2015-05-25 17:05:00
他是没多干净 但这个play他被拉被绊被拐 到底怎么变成他脏了

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