※ 引述《venson (文生力量力量)》之铭言：
: https://youtu.be/biE8opcpGRk?si=BfoFk8lVo21FxZh0
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: 记者：你能不能把乌克兰加入北约的条件说清楚？
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: 白宫国家安全会议战略沟通协调官柯比： 首先，他们(乌克兰)要先打赢这场战争。
: 我们(美国)正全力来确保他们能够打赢。
: First, they got to win this war. We are doing everything we can to make sure
: they can do that," Kirby said.
: 看来乌克兰是加入确定了?!
要想讨论这个问题
我们要先知道访问的前后文在讲什么
很简单
我们只要点进去美国政府公布那一天的稿子
看一下就知道内容在说什么了
https://reurl.cc/XGrVje
由于当天实际上还访问了 以色列 菲律宾 古巴 习近平
我们单独看一下乌克兰议题就好 有点长
首先记者问了
Q ：Thanks, John. Thanks, Karine.
Secretary General Stoltenberg was talking about
once the current fighting in Ukraine ends
that the ultimate security guarantee to prevent it from happening again
-that Russia invades again -is Article 5 from NATO.
He seemed to be very clear that
Ukraine should be admitted into NATO after the current fighting ends.
谢谢John谢谢，Karine
秘书长Stoltenberg表示
一旦乌克兰目前的战斗结束
防止再次发生（俄罗斯再次入侵）的最终安全保障就是北约第五条
他似乎非常清楚在目前的战斗结束后
乌克兰应该加入北约
Q ：Is that a — is — can you speak to that? Is that a commitment that the U
.S. shares, feels — that once this cur- — once this current fighting ends, t
hat — feels strongly that Ukraine can get into NATO?
那你能说一下吗？ 这是美国所共有的承诺吗
一旦目前的战斗结束，就会强烈感觉到乌克兰可以加入北约？
MR. KIRBY: The President has said that he believes that NATO is in Ukraine’s
future. And there’s — there’s a lot of things that have to be done before
they can join the Alliance, like any member has to do before they can join th
e Alliance. But the President believes firmly that NATO is in Ukraine’s futu
re at some point.
KIRBY：总统说过他相信北约是乌克兰的未来
在加入联盟之前 他们需要做很多事情
就像任何成员在加入联盟之前都必须做的那样
但总统坚信北约在某个时候会影响乌克兰的未来
Q：But those — those conditions that have been — have been, you know, ki- —
it’s somewhat a little bit vague. It’s been a very di- — it has not been
a very clear pathway when would they be able to do the action—
但是那些…那些已经存在的条件..
你知道，有点模糊 这是一个非常困难的…
这还不是一个非常明确的途径
他们什么时候能够采取行动
Q ：What are the specific conditions that Ukraine needs to meet?
乌克兰需要满足哪些具体条件？
MR. KIRBY ：The Alliance has talked about and the United States has certainly
talked about, first, they got to win this war. All right? They got to win th
e war first. And so, number one, we’re doing everything we can to make sure
they can do that.
MR. KIRBY：联盟已经谈过了 美国当然也谈过了
首先他们必须赢得这场战争
好的？他们首先要赢得战争
因此 第一点 我们正在尽一切努力确保他们能够做到这一点
Then when the war is over,
no matter what it looks like,
they’re still going to have a long border with Russia
and a legitimate security threat to the Ukrainian people.
That’s why the President at the —
at the G7 signed our bilateral security agreement joining
— what? — some other —
14, 15 other countries that have done the same thing
to make sure that, for the long haul,
Ukraine’s defense industrial base
can continue to make sure that they have what they need
to defend themselves,
and that includes assistance from the United States.
That’s the long haul.
然后当战争结束时 无论情况如何
他们仍然与俄罗斯有很长的边界
并对乌克兰人民构成合法的安全威胁
这就是为什么总统在G7签署了我们的双边安全协议并加入了什么？
其他 14、15 个国家也做了同样的事情
以确保从长远来看乌克兰的国防工业基础
能够继续确保他们拥有自卫所需的东西
其中包括来自乌克兰的美国援助 这才是长远的事
That will help — that will help them defend themselves while they work on the
necessary things they have to do, like any member of the Alliance has to work
on — for instance, on corruption — before they can apply for NATO membershi
p.
But we do believe that NATO is in Ukraine’s future, and we’re going to work
with them every step of the way to
get them there.
这将有所帮助
这将帮助他们在做必要的事情的同时保护自己
就像联盟的任何成员在申请加入北约之前必须做的事情一样
例如反贪腐
但我们确实相信北约是乌克兰的未来
我们将与他们合作把他们带进那里
Q：Is corruption still a major concern for
腐败是否仍是以下方面的一个主要问题：
MR. KIRBY: Corruption is a concern.
But there’s — there’s certainly o- — other things that need to be done for
any — any nation that wants to join the Alliance.
And I want to reiterate that joining the Alliance is an Alliance decision; it
’s not something the United States can just make happen magically. It has to
be done through the existing Allies as well.
MR. KIRBY：贪腐是一个令人担忧的问题
但对于任何想要加入联盟的国家来说
他们当然还有其他事情要做
我想重申 加入联盟是整体联盟的决定
这不是美国可以神奇地实现的事
这也必须透过现有的盟友来完成
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