Re: [讨论]还给Cano跟Melky Cabrera一个公道

楼主: poplc   2013-06-19 12:09:47
Active Leaders & Records for WAR Position Players
Rank Player (yrs, age) WAR Bats
1. Alex Rodriguez (19, 37) 115.5 R
2. Albert Pujols (13, 33) 92.8 R
3. Derek Jeter (18, 39) 72.3 R
Manny Ramirez (19) 69.1 R
4. Adrian Beltre (16, 34) 67.1 R
5. Carlos Beltran (16, 36) 66.4 B
6. Todd Helton (17, 39) 61.2 L
7. Ichiro Suzuki (13, 39) 57.9 L
8. Chase Utley (11, 34) 56.2 L
9. Lance Berkman (15, 37) 52.4 B
10. Jason Giambi (19, 42) 51.7 L
11. Miguel Cabrera (11, 30) 51.3 R
12. Torii Hunter (17, 37) 48.4 R
13. Mark Teixeira (11, 33) 47.6 B
14. Miguel Tejada (16, 39) 46.6 R
15. David Wright (10, 30) 44.5 R
16. Jimmy Rollins (14, 34) 42.4 B
17. Joe Mauer (10, 30) 41.9 L
18. David Ortiz (17, 37) 41.3 L
19. Placido Polanco (16, 37)40.6 R
20. Robinson Cano (9, 30) 40.2 L
21. Rafael Furcal (13, 35) 39.3 B
22. Matt Holliday (10, 33) 38.0 R
23. Eric Chavez (16, 35) 37.5 L
24. Carl Crawford (12, 31) 37.2 L
25. Ryan Braun (7, 29) 35.2 R
26. Dustin Pedroia (8, 29) 35.0 R
27. Curtis Granderson(10, 32) 34.2 L
28. Evan Longoria (6, 27) 33.1 R
29. Kevin Youkilis (10, 34) 32.6 R
30. Ian Kinsler (8, 31) 32.0 R
31. Ryan Zimmerman (9, 28) 31.5 R
32. Jose Reyes (11, 30) 31.3 B
33. Adrian Gonzalez (10, 31) 31.2 L
34. Mark Ellis (11, 36) 31.1 R
35. Joey Votto (7, 29) 30.9 L
36. Troy Tulowitzki (8, 28) 30.6 R
37. Aramis Ramirez (16, 35) 30.1 R
38. Vernon Wells (15, 34) 29.6 R
39. Paul Konerko (17, 37) 28.9 R
40. Ben Zobrist (8, 32) 28.7 B
41. Brian Roberts (13, 35) 28.4 B
42. Alex Rios (10, 32) 28.0 R
43. Hanley Ramirez (9, 29) 27.1 R
44. Coco Crisp (12, 33) 26.7 B
45. Alfonso Soriano (15, 37) 26.6 R
46. Victor Martinez (11, 34) 26.2 B
Carlos Pena (13, 35) 26.2 L
48. Shane Victorino (10, 32) 26.0 B
49. Travis Hafner (12, 36) 25.5 L
50. Michael Young (14, 36) 24.9 R
51. Josh Hamilton (7, 32) 24.6 L
Nick Markakis (8, 29) 24.6 L
53. Jason Bay (11, 34) 24.3 R
54. Jhonny Peralta (11, 31) 24.1 R
55. Aaron Hill (9, 31) 24.0 R
Yadier Molina (10, 30) 24.0 R
Brandon Phillips (12, 32) 24.0 R
58. Prince Fielder (9, 29) 23.4 L
59. A.J. Pierzynski (16, 36) 23.3 L
60. Shin-Soo Choo (9, 30) 23.1 L
61. Russell Martin (8, 30) 22.9 R
62. Mark Kotsay (17, 37) 22.6 L
63. Justin Morneau (11, 32) 22.4 L
Jayson Werth (11, 34) 22.4 R
65. David DeJesus (11, 33) 22.3 L
Marco Scutaro (12, 37) 22.3 R
67. Brian McCann (9, 29) 22.2 L
Hunter Pence (7, 30) 22.2 R
69. Andrew McCutchen (5, 26) 22.1 R
70. J.J. Hardy (9, 30) 22.0 R
71. Nick Swisher (10, 32) 21.9 B
72. Ramon Hernandez (15, 37) 21.8 R
73. Howie Kendrick (8, 29) 21.4 R
74. Jose Bautista (10, 32) 21.3 R
75. Michael Bourn (8, 30) 21.1 L
76. Yunel Escobar (7, 30) 20.9 R
77. Raul Ibanez (18, 41) 20.5 L
78. Alex Gordon (7, 29) 20.4 L
79. Dan Uggla (8, 33) 20.1 R
80. Mike Napoli (8, 31) 19.4 R
81. Matt Kemp (8, 28) 19.3 R
82. Asdrubal Cabrera (7, 27) 19.2 B
83. Brandon Inge (13, 36) 19.0 R
84. Ryan Howard (10, 33) 18.8 L
85. Carlos Gonzalez (6, 27) 18.6 L
86. Brett Gardner (6, 29) 17.8 L
87. Juan Pierre (14, 35) 17.7 L
88. Josh Willingham (10, 34) 17.6 R
89. Denard Span (6, 29) 17.4 L
90. Jamey Carroll (12, 39) 17.3 R
Adam Jones (8, 27) 17.3 R
92. Marlon Byrd (12, 35) 17.2 R
Jacoby Ellsbury (7, 29) 17.2 L
94. Lyle Overbay (13, 36) 17.0 L
95. Andre Ethier (8, 31) 16.9 L
Omar Infante (12, 31) 16.9 R
97. Alexei Ramirez (6, 31) 16.7 R
98. Austin Jackson (4, 26) 16.5 R
Kelly Johnson (8, 31) 16.5 L
100. Carlos Ruiz (8, 34) 16.1 R
Melky Cabrera (8, 28) 15.0
Chien-Ming Wang(8, 33) 13.7
Hung-Chih Kuo(7, 31) 4.7
作者: maxspeed150 (听说茉夏分手了)   2013-06-19 12:18:00
Cano最烂明明是08当年他就是个身体素质没问题可是技术问题一堆的非顶尖
作者: maxspeed150 (听说茉夏分手了)   2013-06-19 12:19:00
新秀 结果后来技术长出来后就变无敌
作者: JakeMcGee (Jake McGee)   2013-06-19 12:21:00
Evan Longoria打6年也才27阿
作者: duncan6502 (Steve Nash)   2013-06-19 12:24:00
你要对一个 球来就打的人有多高评价....?防守也是问题
作者: abc12812   2013-06-19 12:26:00
他的问题是被拿来跟Rogers Hornsby相提并论吧
作者: duncan6502 (Steve Nash)   2013-06-19 12:34:00
楼上说的也是原因之一
作者: evic1224 (瓜瓜)   2013-06-19 12:35:00
这名单真的是每个都认识耶
作者: alex710707 (PonWei)   2013-06-19 12:38:00
楼上都认识的话可以帮我要个签名球吗?
作者: echomica (长崎美人)   2013-06-19 12:39:00
当初嫌他选球不佳爱乱挥 他就长出选球眼 嫌他防守不好 结果现在也拿了两个GG 最后变得没什么好嫌的了
作者: x147159357 (Solomon)   2013-06-19 12:42:00
咦楼上的话让我想起某位球员....
作者: noahlin (该怎么说呢)   2013-06-19 12:54:00
Cano没有出太大问题一定会进的啊..
作者: nickyang (肌腱炎者少打字)   2013-06-19 12:58:00
他那个不叫选球眼,叫做没球打-_-
作者: nickyang (肌腱炎者少打字)   2013-06-19 12:59:00
他现在只能说机会很高,还不到一定,你看二垒手的生涯曲线,30初是个大关卡,Utley跟Biggio都落差很大
作者: nickyang (肌腱炎者少打字)   2013-06-19 13:01:00
Utley 29之前俨然是史上最强二垒手,之后大概没机会了
作者: nickyang (肌腱炎者少打字)   2013-06-19 13:02:00
越是需要活动力的位置生涯越难长,像Jeter大概也是30+才能断定他稳进
作者: maikxz (超级痛痛人)   2013-06-19 13:04:00
30岁似乎是普遍上认为运动员体能开始下滑的年纪?
作者: alex710707 (PonWei)   2013-06-19 13:06:00
应该还没那么快 32岁左右应该算分水岭
作者: alex710707 (PonWei)   2013-06-19 13:07:00
没看过这方面的统计 不过大多数应该是32左右没错
作者: Shauter ( )   2013-06-19 13:13:00
看位子吧
作者: Shauter ( )   2013-06-19 13:14:00
不过棒球已经算是可以打比较久的运动了
作者: Connec (康奈克)   2013-06-19 13:16:00
老磨牙表示:那只是统计数据
作者: ccl007 (.......)   2013-06-19 13:49:00
打者会受到动态视力下滑等影响
作者: maxspeed150 (听说茉夏分手了)   2013-06-19 17:26:00
其实Cano还是很会挥坏球啊
楼主: poplc   2013-06-19 19:08:00
从菜鸟后每年成绩也离suck的程度还很远 为啥会被suck呢
作者: aftermathx (cj)   2013-06-19 20:54:00
因为CCLu认为 没守备+不选球=suck
作者: uranusjr (←這人是超級笨蛋)   2013-06-19 22:17:00
其实 CCLu 讲那话应该是气话比较多啦, 人家是 die-hard
作者: uranusjr (←這人是超級笨蛋)   2013-06-19 22:18:00
Yankee, 好不容易滚了 Soriano 下一个却还是不成材当然会
作者: uranusjr (←這人是超級笨蛋)   2013-06-19 22:19:00
情绪化, 有点爱之深责之切的感觉

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