Re: 用RE24看Trout vs Cabrera

楼主: taiwanrules (taiwanrules)   2012-10-05 21:16:54
刚刚看了一下
RE24 (runs above average by the 24 base/out states): RE24 is the difference
in run expectancy (RE) between the start of the play and the end of the play.
That difference is then credited/debited to the batter and the pitcher. Over
the course of the season, each players’ RE24 for individual plays is added
up to get his season total RE24.
RE24指的是一个打席前后球队得分期望值的变化
Calculation Example: In game 4 of the 2007 World Series, the RE for the Red
Sox to start the inning was .52. When Jacoby Ellsbury doubled off Aaron Cook
in the very first at-bat in the game, the Red Sox were then expected to score
1.15 runs for the rest of the inning. The difference or RE24 was .63 runs.
Ellsbury was credited +.63 runs and Aaron Cook credited with -.63 runs.
举例: 一开赛得分期望值为0.52, Ellsbury 打一支二垒安打, 之后球队的得分期望值
为1.15, 于是Ellsbury 可得到 1.15-0.52= 0.63 分
所以我有点怀疑 Dave Cameron 举的例子到底正不正确
0.33的得分期望值打了一只3 分全垒打, 之后球队的得分期望值应该不是3, 因为
还有得分的机会, 这是小细节可以讨论
重点是, 只要是数据都有盲点
1. Cabrera的 IBB有 17次, 而他的 batting average with RISP 有 0.356, 代表
原本可以有较高的分数, 因为敬远只赚到一点
2. 作者有提到 Cabrera 多了23次 1+ runs, 因为长打较多, 而trout 靠避免双杀
等对球队有害的play追上甚至超前. 但我也可以解读如果有较多次big plays,
一次灌好几分, 是不是较可能直接让球队获胜? 如果只是常常让一垒有人变一二垒
有人,对球队的获胜较无贡献? 因为这是期望值差而不是真正的得分
作者: GuyPearce (GuyPearce)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
去图书馆借Curve Ball或Baseball Between the Numbers
作者: GuyPearce (GuyPearce)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
里面有讲Run Expectancy
作者: GuyPearce (GuyPearce)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
batting average with RISP可以不用理 小样本数的东西没什么价值
作者: GuyPearce (GuyPearce)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
第二个问题看WPA
楼主: taiwanrules (taiwanrules)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
为什么batting average with RISP 是小样本?
作者: GuyPearce (GuyPearce)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
随机震荡很大啊
作者: GuyPearce (GuyPearce)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
可以去Sabermetrics板看精华区中的"数据大文章"
作者: GuyPearce (GuyPearce)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
里面有一个今天早上一直被乡民嘘的人写的"怎么看数字"
作者: GuyPearce (GuyPearce)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
怎么看数字(3)可以回答你的问题
作者: GuyPearce (GuyPearce)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
至于各种数据要有多少样本才会稳定,我记得有一个叫Pizza
作者: GuyPearce (GuyPearce)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
Cutter的人写过
作者: GuyPearce (GuyPearce)   0000-00-00 00:00:00

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