※ 引述《Tukiyomi (月读)》之铭言:
: https://twitter.com/#!/Haudricourt/status/172804608597557249
: Ryan Braun has won his appeal of a drug suspension and will not be suspended
: for 50 games.
: 逆转胜,陪审团投票以2:1翻盘
: https://twitter.com/#!/BillHall_III/status/172810361983086594
: #FREERYANBRAUN #FREERYANBRAUN #FREERYANBRAUN!!!!!! Congrats to Ryan for
: winning the appeal.... HE'S INNOCENT HE'S INNOCENT!!!!
: Bill Hall也太high了吧
照目前新闻的资料看来
似乎出问题的地方是收集员没立即把样本交给快递
而是把样本先放在自家冰箱两天后送出
这部分是Braun攻击程序有问题的胜出点
http://tinyurl.com/6v2b8ld
According to one of the sources, the collector, after getting Braun's sample,
was supposed to take the sample to a FedEx Office for shipping.
But the source said the collector thought the FedEx Office was closed because
it was late on a Saturday and felt the sample wouldn't get shipped until
Monday.
As has occurred in some other instances, the collector took the sample home
and kept it in a cool place, in his basement at his residence in Wisconsin,
according to the source.
Policy states that the sample is supposed to get to FedEx as soon as
possible.
不过关键票 - 仲裁员Shyam Das是不是做出正确判断
其实是有可议之处的
根据USADA的说法
https://twitter.com/#!/JeffPassan/status/172833433955995648
USADA CEO Travis Tygart tells Y! Sports of the Braun decision: "It's frankly
unreal. And it's a kick in the gut to clean athletes."
https://twitter.com/#!/JeffPassan/status/172833625388228608
Tygart: "Clean athletes have been underserved. All the athletes that don't
have positive tests, that abide by the rules, this is insulting."
https://twitter.com/#!/JeffPassan/status/172836609962676226
USADA CEO Travis Tygart says it's commonplace for collectors to keep samples
refrigerated when taken late at night and on holidays, weekends
https://twitter.com/#!/JeffPassan/status/172836795720007680
Tygart: "This stuff happens around the world all the time. They're collected
at people's homes after the UPS or FedEx or DHL is closed."
https://twitter.com/#!/JeffPassan/status/172836851214856193
Tygart: "The DCO (doping control officer) keeps it with them. These are
well-trained people whose job it is to maintain it. I'm stunned."
似乎在周末时收集员把样本放在自家冰箱中是一般常见且正确的作法
这个判决照一般USADA或是WADA的标准来看是颇有问题的
不过,既然已经决定不禁赛了
那就恭喜Braun吧
作者: Marsch (来吧!) 2012-02-24 12:14:00
我觉得Braun今年会压力很大,万一陷入低潮很容易被贴标签...
作者: EricByrnes (笨死) 2012-02-24 12:27:00
跟禁药扯上关系,怎么打都会压力大的
作者: HXZ 2012-02-24 12:44:00
有专业的可以解说一下 多冰两天真的会影响检验结果吗
作者: pathfinder (just enjoy the show) 2012-02-24 12:47:00
律师:冰起来不马上送,我哪知有没有被铳康(这样?
作者: ps20012001 (开始想明年新计画) 2012-02-24 13:00:00
推一下会压力大...只能说 期望他能"持续"发挥实力吧...
作者:
JOHNJJ (å›§ä¸ä¸)
2012-02-24 13:20:00没第一时间送检谁知道会不会被加料之类的
作者:
mcshang (mcshang)
2012-02-24 13:34:00程序问题!!! 哇~~不知会不会拿来跟oj simpson做比较
作者: jerriver3 (马鸣) 2012-02-24 13:34:00
说真的,程序如果是这样要铳康他超容易的阿...希望是真
作者: jerriver3 (马鸣) 2012-02-24 13:35:00
的没吃药纯粹误会就是了
作者:
JOHNJJ (å›§ä¸ä¸)
2012-02-24 14:45:00如果真的被加料查不出来吗 感觉没有真相大白 ><"
要铳康的方法很多,没必要故意带回家冰起来再铳康。检验
人员把检体带回家冰是被允许的,但前提是要在FedEx已经下
班,没办法当天把检体寄出。整件事的关键在于检验人员在
收集Braun的检体后,时间已经很晚,以为FedEx已经下班休
息,所以带回家冰起来。结果算是Braun的律师厉害,抓到
FedEx关门时间要再晚一点,就变成不符合程序,没有照规定
作者:
peadon (peadon)
2012-02-24 15:50:00胜诉但是没得到清白 单纯律师利害
作者:
AhUtopian (It's my Life)
2012-02-24 15:56:00美国的律师真的很会这样子的打法
作者:
k33536 (是什么?)
2012-02-24 15:57:00青木表示:
作者:
xyzzz (阿)
2012-02-24 16:23:00还是有个 * 啊
作者:
dp44 (lol)
2012-02-24 17:45:00其实都是这样打诉讼的啊 程序上可以解决 当然就是先打程序
作者:
redzero (小王)
2012-02-24 18:04:00今年没吃药不知道会打怎样喔
主打程序正义胜诉很常见阿...之前汤普森也是打程序阿..
作者:
EVA96 (键盘亲卫队)
2012-02-24 19:36:00所以她到底有妹有吃药
作者:
adu (^_^)
2012-02-24 19:48:00人难免会失误 abc大别在意阿XD
作者:
lwei781 (nap til morning?)
2012-02-24 20:04:00Braun took -- and passed -- a second test.so the suspension have to rest on the first sample
作者:
tomho1202 (never regret)
2012-02-24 23:09:00其实这样不代表他在禁药方面没疑虑,只是免除禁赛
作者:
ckbaboon (救救北极熊)
2012-02-24 23:15:00之前都这样的程序做 只能说律师太厉害 有没有吃药?嘿嘿
作者:
kee32 (终于毕业了)
2012-02-24 23:19:00幸普森战术成功
作者: sslk ( ) 2012-02-25 01:11:00
真的只是不用禁赛 但可以确定的是他药检依旧不合格...除非真的是检验员陷害他 否则他就是有吃禁药阿
作者: sslk ( ) 2012-02-25 01:12:00
大联盟当然不爽 这根本只是在抓漏洞 而不是证明自己的清白
作者:
nolander (自己国家自己救)
2012-02-25 01:28:00程序问题也是问题 正规途径得到的结果哪里*了推文的为何不能面对事实?
作者:
nolander (自己国家自己救)
2012-02-25 01:30:00更何况验第二次没有问题 根本没可能真正证明清白球员一次没过就贴标签得这些人 到底在装什么圣人?
作者:
jayin07 ( ⊙o⊙)
2012-02-25 02:28:00乡民的标准一直是白海豚啊
作者: kspete 2012-02-25 08:44:00
没照程序来本来就不对 这有什么好说嘴的
作者:
ckbaboon (救救北极熊)
2012-02-25 10:14:00Braun有验第二次结果是negative吗???然后程序有问题确实本来就是问题啦 这也是真的XD
作者:
bearlex (オレの歌を聴け!)
2012-02-25 12:08:00不知道两次药检多久?真的吃药有可能第二次验不出来吗?
作者:
VOY ( )
2012-02-25 12:26:00先程序后实体 程序有瑕疵 自然就不用进入实体审查(有无用药)
作者:
VOY ( )
2012-02-25 12:27:00当然也就无法排除真的有(或没有)用药的可能
刚听espn,今天这个话题被提到多次,Lin退居第二
作者:
jayin07 ( ⊙o⊙)
2012-02-26 01:03:00自从药检以来所谓的A-Rod那些人可是没被禁赛过耶
作者:
lwei781 (nap til morning?)
2012-03-03 16:28:00Braun 那后面被验很多次了吧 都没被爆positive
作者:
lwei781 (nap til morning?)
2012-03-03 16:29:00immediate 的补验的是说在正常范围