[闲聊] ATLC Reckful事件

楼主: kuonet (锅贴)   2015-07-06 15:16:37
版上没看到相关讨论,我直接贴一篇社论上来
这件事情蛮严重的,在国外引起了许多讨论,有些字眼/行为在国外是很敏感的
简单来说就是Reckful因为讲了一个Rape,当场被Amaz换下主播台
Amaz的说法是: 他讲了很多攻击性的字眼
Reddit串: http://tinyurl.com/pnkxcgy
暴雪社群经理的回应: https://twitter.com/CM_Zeriyah/status/616680848574779392
That is not something we are ok with, and we are discussing it with the
organizers.
"这不是我们能接受的事情,我们正在跟主办单位讨论如何处置"
下面翻译我就直翻了,意思大概到就好
原文: http://tinyurl.com/nrt2glb
Editorial: When professionalism takes a day off
社论:当专业休假的时候
There are some things you don’t say. There are occasions which require a
person to have a certain demeanor, a code of conduct if you’d like. You do
not make obituary jokes in a nursing home. You do not say in almost casual
tone during an official press conference that your country has “tortured
some folks,” although God knows this has produced more than enough jokes
towards the Obama cabinet.
很多事情你会选择不说。在某些场合需要保持风度或是一定的行为守则。你不会在
养老院讲关于死亡的笑话,你不会在记者会上随口说出你的国家"有在刑求某些人"
(注:这边指欧巴马失言事件),虽然没人知道这会对欧巴马内阁造成多少麻烦。
And you do not say “rape” in the biggest Hearthstone tournament of the
year, in front of tens of thousands of people watching.
你也不会在今年最大的炉石联赛上,数万个观众面前,说出"Rape"(强暴)这个字
If you missed last night’s broadcast of Archon’s Team League Championship
(ATLC for short), you’re in for a story with a pinch of drama. Paired with
hosting and casting veteran Dan “Frodan” Chou was popular streamer,
entertainer and loudmouth Byron “Reckful” Bernstein. Known for his colorful
vocabulary and no-two-shits-given attitude, Reckful boasts a large following,
one of the biggest in Hearthstone’s scene in fact. Seeing him appear in the
ATLC, the $250,000 league organized by Team Archon, almost came that kind of
confusion which you can kind of understand. With so much money on the line,
viewership numbers are and should be the primary concern of the organizers,
and securing the services of someone of Reckful’s stock is a smart move. On
paper.
如果你错过了昨晚ATLC联赛的转拨,那你该来听听这个抓马。跟老牌主播Frodan搭配的是
大嘴巴的人气实况主/艺人Reckful。事实上,Reckful以各式各样的词汇和"管他去死"的
态度吸引了大批的追随人数,让他成为了最大的炉石实况主之一。从这边你不难理解他
的出现会在总奖金$250,000美金的ATLC联赛上造成一定程度的混乱。在如此高额奖金的
联赛上,收视人数必然是主办单位最关心的议题,也因此,确保Reckful的播报品质是个
明智之举,至少在字面上是。
It didn’t take long for things to go awry. The tandem between Reckful and
Frodan couldn’t have been more off. While sometimes differences in behavior
and style can result in a colorful commentary experience, this was not the
case. Where Frodan tried to salvage the broadcast and offer insight on the
players, the teams, and the games, Reckful couldn’t have been bothered less.
但事情马上就失控了。Reckful和Fordan之间的配合差到不能再差了。虽然有时候两个
行为或是风格不同的人配合会激发出更绚烂的火花,但这次完全不是这样。当Fordan
想要把主题拉回炉石本身,把焦点放在选手、战队、还有比赛上,Reckful还是滔滔不绝
的自己讲自己的。
While general critique could and will be shot Reckful’s way, it was one word
in particular which rightfully angered the community. No matter the context,
“a Swipe would rape him,” is just an offensive and insensitive thing to say
from this official of a podium. And while that was what lighted the fuse,
Reckful’s follow-up behavior did not aid his cause. He continued to behave
inappropriately, showing completel disinterest and lack of knowledge and
research done towards the tournament he was supposed to cast.
当大家准备,或是将要开始批评Reckful的时候,一个字直接激怒了所有人。先不管前因
后果,从一个播报口中说出"A Swipe would rape him"(一个挥击会干爆他)这句话就是
一件充满攻击性和不理性的事情。当这条导火线被点燃之后,Reckful接下来做的事情
仍然让他继续被扣分 - 他继续展现出对炉石毫无兴趣的态度,同时他也缺乏作为一个
播报需要知道的知识以及事前研究。
Those who follow Hearthstone for a longer time would remember that this is in
fact not Reckful’s first time acting like that in a tournament environment.
His casting of Lord of the Arena 2 alongside fellow streamer Octavian “
Kripparrian” Morosan was also a subject to negative feedback, following
derogative and condescending attitude towards the female participants, namely
DeerNadia and Rumei "Hafu" Wang. The case later brought up and discussed on
popular Hearthstone podcasts like The Angry Chicken, where a very valid
comment was made: You can talk however you want in your circle of friends or
personal stream, but you never do that in an official tournament, regardless
of how “casual” and “laid back” the atmosphere can be. Ultimately, Tempo
Storm, the team which Reckful belongs to, had to issue an official apology.
对于那些一直有在追炉石新闻的人来说,这不是Reckful第一次在联赛中做这种事情了。
他跟Kripp播报Lord of the Arena 2(竞技场之王2)的时候一样是获得了负面评价,
因为他在播报中显露出了对女性玩家Hafu和Deernadia歧视的态度。这件事情在一些
人气播客平台像是The Angry Chicken上面被广泛讨论,最后有一个非常重要的评论
是 "你在你的朋友圈或是自己的实况上要讲什么随便你,但是你绝对不能在一个官方
联赛上讲不该讲的话,即便这个联赛标榜著“轻松”或是“悠闲”。在最后,Reckful
的战队,Tempo Storm,为这件事情发表了道歉声明。
注:道歉声明 http://tinyurl.com/pzsg56v
While the “rape” comment was obviously made without malicious intent and is
very much a part of the gamer’s slang, it could easily be seen as
controversial. On social media, fellow journalists went on to say this is
promoting of “rape culture” – a concept coined in the 70s to describe the
normalized nature of the act and trivialization of the word – and one could
agree to some extent. And though I personally wouldn't, throwing around words
like “rape” without so much as a second of thought is concerning. This
shouldn’t be read as me being convinced that Reckful consciously promotes
and endorses rape. It’s simply the textbook definition of inappropriate
behavior and it's something that will grab the attention in a way you'd
rather not.
即使"Rape"说出来的时候没有恶意,甚至可能只是个口头禅,他仍然会造成很多争议。
在社交媒体上,记者们会说你这样做会助长"强暴文化",一个70年代开始围绕着这个
行为的观念。就我个人而言我不会因为你讲了这个字就把你归类到助长强暴文化的
分类中,他只是定义上一个很不洽当的行为,同时他会让你因为讲出他而惹上很多麻烦。
There are a number of fallacies that can – and surely will – be mentioned
in regards to this incident. “It’s all for the entertainment, it’s what
brings the numbers,” is the first and the most wrong one, which is a
terrible excuse. When the only way to excite your viewership is condoning
crass language, then there are bigger problems to your concept than your
casting line-up. Call me crazy, but I believe a tournament of that size on
one of Twitch’s most popular Hearthstone channels can generate a following
without employing a bigot. Professionalism should never be sacrificed to the
detriment of production quality or good taste.
关于这件事情,有些人可能,或是一定会说,"这都是为了娱乐,这也就是为什么会有
那么人想看"。这个谬论将是第一个,也是错最大的借口。如果今天你认为加入这些不
堪入目的词汇才能提升你的收视率,那你的观念可能比你的播报阵容问题更大。你可能
认为我疯了,但我相信今天在Twitch上一个如此大的炉石联赛并不需要雇用一个那么
偏激的人来吸引大批观众。专业永远不该屈于降低品质。
注: 最后那句话有点不知道怎么翻,大概的意思是说真正的专业不是靠降低你播报的
品质来拉拢观众。
“If you don’t like it, don’t watch it,” others will say and they’d be
missing the point, too. We’re not talking about why buy vanilla ice cream if
you don’t fancy the flavor. This is not a matter of personal taste. If
anything, the flow of logic is the other way around. With viewership numbers
being the index against which success in all broadcasting is measured, “don’
t watch” is what the horn of the media hearse sounds like.
"不爽不要看" 其他人可能会这样说,但这是错的。我们不是在讨论你要不要买香草
冰淇淋,这不是个人喜好的问题。要说的话,这整件事情是另一个逻辑。当观看人数
是决定一个实况成功与否的因素的时候,"不要看"就是一个实况的坟场。
注: 最后一句话我真的看不懂,这边请翻译强者帮忙更正
“That’s part of who Reckful is, give him a break,” is the least valid
excuse of all. As was mentioned earlier in the article, a change of demeanor
is necessary when publicly representing an organization. This is not the
Reckful Team League. It’s Archon’s, and for the few hours that you’re on
stream, you’re the voice and face of Archon as much as Amaz, or Firebat, or
Orange are. Those who are not convinced such a change can happen, should
revisit the appearance of Sebastian “Forsen” Fors at DreamHack Bucharest,
who underwent a total makeover, leaving his streaming personality and home
and delivering a polished, professional and educating product which still
carried the essence of what makes Forsen enjoyable to watch.
"Reckful就是这样的人,饶了他吧" 是一个最智障的借口。就像文章前面所说的,
当你代表了一个联赛,态度的改变是必须的。这不是Reckful联赛,这是Archon联赛
,当你在实况上的时候,你的脸和声音就代表了Archon,跟Amaz、Firebat、Orange
一样。那些认为Reckful改不掉习惯的人,请去看看Forsen在DreamHack Bucharest
播报的VOD,他把他实况上的许多东西都丢弃了,改头换面,为观众呈现了一个洗练、
专业、富有教育意义的播报,但同时仍然保存了许多他有趣的本质。
If you believe saying “rape” was the least of Reckful’s offenses during
last night’s ATLC, that too much attention is being paid to it and that
there are other offenses that need mentioning, you’re spot on. A single
mention of the word could’ve gone almost unnoticed if not for the repeatedly
displayed disinterest in doing the job he was hired for. Before he would
ultimately get replaced by Amaz, Reckful gave a crash course on the “DONT’s
” of professional casting. It’s not OK to refer to a team you do not know
as “these Asians” when they’re the strongest team of the east. Or to refer
to a player you do not know as “that other guy” when he’s one of
Hearthstone’s veterans, competing in tournaments since the earliest days. Or
to mispronounce a player's name. Just like it's absolutely unacceptable to
not pay attention to the games and to openly admit that preparing for a
casting gig is not important.
如果你认为"Rape"可能只是Reckful在ATLC播报中犯下的唯一错误,那你可能太注意
这个地方而没发现其他值得注意的部份。如果他没有一而再再而三的心不在焉,那
讲错一个字也不会引起太多的注意。在Reckful被Amaz撤换前,Reckful犯下了许多
专业播报的大忌。因为你不认识他们就把东方最强的队伍叫做"这些亚洲人",这一点
都不OK。因为你不认识这个玩家就把他叫做"另外一个人"(偏偏他是炉石的沙场老手),
这一点都不OK。唸错选手的名字、不专注在比赛上,甚至承认没有为转拨做任何准备
都是绝对不能被接受的。
注: http://www.twitch.tv/reckful/v/6857265?t=4m21s
Reckful被撤换之后的第一次实况,他有说到他真的不知道Team Celestial,所以他想问
另外一个主播(也就是Frodan)关于这只队伍的细节
Towards the end of this editorial, the other party who bears the fault for
Reckful’s appearance ought to also be mentioned – the organizers
themselves. It’s understandably difficult to find popular casters who are
available, willing to cast and/or are not playing in the ATLC itself.
However, employing a personality comes with understanding his or her quirks
and peculiarities and being aware they can and most likely will appear on
stream. I’m sure Amaz and Co. were aware of what they were getting into; I
do not believe for a second they were utterly shocked and surprised of what
happened during the broadcast. If this was a bet, based on a hope that
Reckful would not be his true self, then it was a lousy bet and one you
shouldn’t make while operating a tournament of this magnitude.
在这篇社论的最后,需要提到一个得承担找错人(Reckful)这个错误的团体 - 主办单位。
我们可以理解要找到一个不打ATLC的人气主播是多难的事情,然而,找一个人代表要
了解他可能会在实况上讲什么话以及表现出怎样的特色。我相信Amaz和他的团队知道
他们在做什么,我不认为当他们知道出包之后会特别惊讶或是惊吓。如果这是一个赌注
,赌Reckful在ATLC上不会跟他平常一样,那这是一个很糟糕的赌注,而且你不应该
在如此大规模的联赛上赌下去。
Following the controversy, Reckful was let go of the ATLC casting desk and
replaced by Amaz. Speaking to industry insiders, the organizers promised this
was Reckful’s first and last appearance as a caster in the tournament. And
while applaudable, this fallout is almost ironically in contrast with ATLC’s
vision of what is offensive and what isn’t. If saying “rape” is not OK,
how can a team slogan reading “Bringing the cancer” on a logo designed by
ATLC’s organizers themselves be justified by the “context”? As I wrote on
Twitter myself, I'm not the one to be offended even though I have close
friends who've experienced rape and others who have fought cancer, but I'm
not all people and the fact that saying or writing these things can be
considered normal is mind-boggling. "Context" is not an universal safety vest
which makes things more acceptible. Quite the opposite - it's a dangerous
enabler of misconduct. The fact that we're watching a video game should not
make a difference: A professional broadcast production must adhere to the
written and unwritten standards of the industry and the modern society.
争议发生之后,Reckful被踢下主播台并且由Amaz暂代。根据内线消息指出,主办单位
决定这将是Reckful第一次以及最后一次在联赛上播报。
文章的后半段,简单来说就是
https://twitter.com/ArchonAmazHS/status/615203531960659968
ForsenBoys的标语是 "Bringing the Cancer"
作者有朋友被强暴,也有朋友正在对抗Cancer(癌症),他认为今天Rape不妥当结果弄
了个Cancer简直是自打嘴巴,希望业界有个一定的标准什么可用什么不可用,不然
对于无知的人很伤。
Speaking of which, going on stream to say one of your casters was replaced
due to being too offensive is not the way to do damage control either. Iconic
esports host and presenter Paul “ReDeYe” Chaloner has “don’t point to
mistakes in your production while it is ongoing” as one of the core rules of
shoutcasting and broadcasting, and it’s absolutely vital. Honestly, the
Pinnacle 4 qualifiers should’ve been enough of a lesson.
这段大概就是讲说,当天做得很难看,至少要等当天播报结束再撤换
在Pinnacle 4已经做得很难看了,这次又来一次
注: Pinnacle 4的状况是海选的选手打输了结果被邀请进复赛
最后的处理方式是Pinnacle 4 没有Blizzcon积分
In the end, I’m not saying a person like Reckful should never get any
casting jobs, ever. There’s a place and time for everything. But acting in
an unprofessional and insensitive manner when the occasion demands the
opposite is not only unacceptable: It’s unforgivable, tasteless and
appalling.
最后就是拍拍reckful说你还有机会,但是你这次这样做实在是天理不容

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