[爆卦] 曹长青FB说王丹涉嫌儿童色情

楼主: saniblue (sanity)   2015-01-25 13:14:51
原文出处:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=848287268569545&id=218812861516992
缩网址:http://0rz.tw/91ttM
曹长青:王丹涉嫌“儿童色情”FBI存盘
对王丹是否是同性恋的问题,他自己当然有权保持沉默。但作为公众人物,对媒体报导他
出入同性恋场所等,他不仅矢口否认,甚至扬言要起诉报导他是同性恋的媒体,这就等于
说,王丹否认自己是同性恋。王丹表示,那家媒体负责人最后向他“道歉”。但他自己对
媒体、对大众撒了那么多谎,却绝无一句道歉。而且,一个本应是为同性恋权益呼吁的人
,这么个否定法,不知同性恋团体怎么看。
但不管怎么说,他是不是同性恋,不是问题,但如果涉嫌恋童,那可就一定是问题了。我
在《五错俱全的王丹》一文里曾提到,王丹在哈佛读书期间,他的美国邻居就有反映,王
丹和太多男孩子交往,如果不当接触未成年男孩的话,是会犯罪的,需要长辈管教。在台
湾清华大学,也有老师意识到他周围总有一些年轻男孩。学校老师们还以为,王丹是因为
安全原因,需要有一帮男孩子保护。当被告知王丹的美国邻居的担忧时,清大老师才意识
到,原来还有这种“思路”。
几个月前前,有人给我提供了一篇和这种思路相吻合的有关王丹的英文文章(附在本文后
),并告知,有一个外人不懂的世界——成年男人装小孩,逗小狗小猫,为的是吸引小孩
,那是“恋童癖”表现的一种。
这篇英文文章的大致内容是,王丹离开哈佛后,把他的一些私人物品寄存在一个仓库里,
但由于他的代理人(也就是哈佛大学东亚所那个帮王丹写英文作业的南希女士)没有及时
缴费,他的东西被清仓拍卖,结果被发现其中有“裸体男孩照片”,最后那些男孩裸照都
被美国FBI高价收回。这件事情的过程恰好被一个喜欢购买拍卖品的美国人撞见,所以他
写出了这个过程。从该文语调来看,他显然对中国天安门学生领袖私藏儿童裸照的行为很
厌恶、很不满,所以他的文章标题是(No Child Porn Here), 意是是:别在这里搞儿童
色情。
几年前我从美国的一个电视新闻报导中得知:私藏儿童的裸体照片是犯法的,从网上下载
儿童裸体照片到自己的计算机里也犯法,如果发送传播,刑罚就更严重。电视片中那个尚
没有任何侵犯儿童的行为、只是从网上下载了儿童裸照的人,直接就被警察铐走了。报导
提示,如周围邻居有此类问题,要向警察局报备,以保护附近的儿童。
这篇英文在我这里已经压了好几个月了,一直期待王丹能像个公众人物的样子,诚恳地对
待批评,对他撒的一串谎言道个歉,对被指控的款项问题做个交代,那我就替他保住这个
密——起码不从我这儿捅出去。但他不仅毫无悔意,而是更加嚣张;甚者故意给骗子韩寒
背书,并再一次想靠舆论帮他要特权。既然他狂妄到对所有的批评都置之不理,那我也就
完全没必要把这个信息帮他藏在文件夹的深层。更何况,他可能根本不把涉嫌“儿童色情
”当回事儿(连美国FBI不也只是存盘备案,并没抓他吗,六四光环还是相当有保护层的
),就像他的同行者,前中国民联主席、《北京之春》主编胡平,收了中共领馆一铺子香
烟,把我吓出一身冷汗,当成天大的事儿,但人家就像没事人一样,继续潇洒地指点民运
江山(还继续收中领馆的厚礼?)。以王丹对前面一系列事情的处理来看,他和胡平的确
是同志,活在一个外人不懂得的世界。所以,本文只是给大众读者看的,看看这样的人是
否适合做role model(年轻人的样板)。
我得到这篇文章的时候,用链接一下子就连到了网上的原文,但是去年底,这篇文章就从
网上神秘地消失了(受到了来自哪里的压力?)。
好在现在是网络时代,凡是网上有过的东西,就像凡是在计算机打过的东西,哪怕全部删
除掉了,在专家那里也都是可以查到的。请看附录的这篇文章,以及几个月前的文章网页
快照。我只是作为一个记者提供这个信息,至于应该怎样看待这件事情,我就不再评论,
由读者自己来判断吧。
2015年1月22日于美国
附录:
No Child Porn Here
by Alden Howes Olson
22 February 2013
This really happened. Totally no shit. I used to go to a lot of auctions, two
or three a week, sometimes four or five. One of my favorite auctions was
Acorn Auctions, run by Stan (name changed). Stan was terrific and he almost
always had interesting items, never much high end, expensive stuff, but
interesting stuff. Stuff you could either use or re-sell. I hit Acorn every
Saturday afternoon to preview as early as possible, then go home to look up
online the items I was interested in. Everything Stan sold was his. He bought
virtually all of it at storage unit auctions, way before Storage Wars got on
TV.
So one Saturday afternoon I go into the place and, because I'm always there
early, only Stan is there, no one else has been in yet. I start previewing on
the left side of the room, like usual, and immediately see that this auction
is totally different from all the others I've seen Stan hold.
The first table is full of pictures of crowds of Chinese people and some
Chinese soldiers. Hundreds of pictures. This is not a happy occasion. I pick
up one photo that shows a guy with no forehead. The cavity behind the hole is
empty, no brains, nothing inside his skull. Some blood on his face, his chin
on the street. I look at other photos that show some tanks, some people
running, some look like they're throwing rocks, some injured. The crowds are
huge, chaotic. This is no small event.
On the next table a little print-out by Stan says the items belonged to Wang
Dan, a leader of the Tienanmen Square uprising in 1989. There are what look
like old notebooks or journals. No idea what they say because I don't read
Chinese. Could be anything, but naturally you think they are journals kept as
a record of the demonstrations. It was a big deal at the time. Wang Dan was
more or less second-in-command. He was very present, very outspoken. The
Chinese government hated him. And arrested him. Put him in jail. Eventually,
he was released. Then he got jailed again. This time Bill Clinton, at a
summit meeting in China, requested that the People's Republic of China
release Dan, who would come to the U.S. In fact, he would become a graduate
student at Harvard.
I notice on the floor about a dozen boxes filled with New Yorker magazines. I
look at the address labels - all the same address. Wang Dan; c/o Nancy
Hearst; Librarian; Fairbank Center; Harvard University; Cambridge MA. I write
this down.
I continue through the rest of the room. Some stuff is normal, but more of
the items are clearly part of Wang Dan's stuff. I know it must all have come
from a storage unit. I ask Stan about it. He says he got it at a storage unit
in Somerville a few days ago.
I say thanks and leave, go home, and call the Fairbank Center. No answer. I
leave a message. I try directory assistance and find a Nancy Hearst in
Brookline and call her house. No answer. I leave a message. She calls back. I
tell her I'm not an expert, but this looks like historically significant
stuff for sale tonight in Greenfield. Is she aware that Wang Dan's stuff is
being auctioned off? No, she says, Dan has been traveling around the world
speaking out for democracy in China and it was her responsibility to pay his
storage unit rent. Which she neglected to do. So his stuff was sold to Stan
and now would be sold to anyone with enough money to win the bidding. I told
her I didn't have a lot of money, but I would be glad to buy the most
important items and get them back to Dan as long as I could get reimbursed.
She said maybe, that she would call Wang Dan, and would I please call her
back in about 10 minutes. I called back. No answer. I waited another 10
minutes and called back. No answer. I did this twice more. She wasn't picking
up.
So after an hour of trying to contact Hearst, and with the auction about to
begin, I drove back down and saw the stuff sold. I didn't buy any of it. A
local book dealer bought the diaries for about $7000 dollars plus 10 percent
commission. $7700 and he couldn't even read them or know for sure what they
were about.
Monday afternoon I stop by Acorn to see Stan about something. He tells me he
had some visitors that morning. The FBI had stopped in. They got a list of
all the people who bought Wang Dan's stuff and went to all of them and bought
it all back. They paid the buyers more money than was bid. Everyone made some
kind of profit, but probably not the amount they were hoping for.
Stan tells me there were also some pictures of naked boys he found in the
unit. Young naked boys. Not good. At first he thought he had thrown them out
with the rest of the trash that inevitably comes with a storage unit
purchase, but wasn't really sure. Turns out he still had them in the backroom
along with a few other things in a some beer flats, which he was going to
toss but then the FBI showed up. The FBI agent asked Stan how much he thought
he could sell the stuff in the beer flats for. Stan, thinking quickly, said
it was worth about $1000. So the agent paid him a grand on the spot and took
all the stuff that Stan was going to toss, including the porn.
Later Monday afternoon I'm home and Nancy Hearst calls me. She is a little
tense. She wants to know whether I bought anything at the auction and who
else bought stuff. She asks her questions slowly, unlike when I talked with
her a couple of days earlier. She keeps pausing between sentences as if
someone else is in the room with her. I tell her I don't know who bought
what, but I didn't buy any of it because she didn't answer her phone. She
told me she didn't pick up because she was afraid I might be from the Chinese
embassy. Of course.
Totally no shit here. True story. The FBI told Stan they were buying all Wang
Dan's stuff back as a matter of national security. Considering that Dan was
one big, huge thorn in the side of the Chinese government and that he was the
darling of the American pro-life crowd, and the politically conservative
crowd, and a bunch of other crowds that hated PRC, and that no less than
President Bill Clinton secured his release from Chinese jail and that Harvard
had gladly taken him in, I'd guess Wang Dan's photographs were kind of an
embarrassment that the U.S. government wanted to forget about. Forever.
Posted by Alden Howes Olson at 12:00 PM
Labels: copied 10-dec-2013
该文的网络存盘:http://web.archive.org/…/wanderingtheoutskirts.blogspot.com/
以下有请丹粉为大家解释,丹哥很Nice的,这当中一定有什么误会!
作者: kuninaka   2015-01-25 13:15:00
八卦板没有丹丹FANS吧
作者: andy199113 (Andy)   2015-01-25 13:15:00
完蛋要黑掉惹 多元成家没关系啦
作者: mykey8585 (我愛雷姆<3)   2015-01-25 13:16:00
罗利空
作者: kuro (支那啃民党 凸 ̄▽ ̄凸)   2015-01-25 13:16:00
孙文表示:
作者: mew2 (sea bird 2)   2015-01-25 13:16:00
难怪挺摸奶
作者: WeasoN (WeasoN)   2015-01-25 13:16:00
BL大好
作者: Riya520 (GO!!!!!!)   2015-01-25 13:16:00
孙文 伟大的先驱者
作者: hcwang1126 (王小胖)   2015-01-25 13:16:00
八卦回来了!
作者: digimaster (我是唐伯虎)   2015-01-25 13:17:00
如果他这种行为被发现 为啥米国还让他入境
作者: aoiaoi (苍井葵)   2015-01-25 13:17:00
完了完了 我爸也很爱逗狗玩 是不是要赶快通知FBI
作者: Ayreon (猫王)   2015-01-25 13:17:00
自己人
作者: u6vmp1756 (驭心)   2015-01-25 13:17:00
啊哈哈哈
作者: cbwei (wei)   2015-01-25 13:18:00
好恶 恋童老甲
作者: tchialen (艾妈 挖爱哩)   2015-01-25 13:18:00
北部人吃不到丹丹又要悲愤了
作者: jyekid (会呼吸的痛)   2015-01-25 13:18:00
有更确切的证据再来嘴砲吧 一个网络存盘就想抹黑啊
作者: usebbs (ptt)   2015-01-25 13:18:00
上次健保事件早黑了
作者: zainc (念湘)   2015-01-25 13:18:00
挺八卦的,清大不续聘的内幕之一?
作者: GoodElephant (翊今寶寶,說你好。)   2015-01-25 13:18:00
王丹和太多男孩子交往,如果不当接触未成年男孩的
作者: mew2 (sea bird 2)   2015-01-25 13:19:00
甲甲奶昔一家亲
作者: MasterYY (YY大师)   2015-01-25 13:19:00
吱吱就爱这一味
作者: Grammy (自我主张Monster)   2015-01-25 13:19:00
王丹超垃圾 不过这种指控没比较好
作者: jma306 (甲贺稻修伯)   2015-01-25 13:19:00
26战26 这是内战
作者: digimaster (我是唐伯虎)   2015-01-25 13:19:00
想想Michael Jackson的例子
作者: d0085672 (jetstream)   2015-01-25 13:19:00
这篇会爆
作者: HC683150 (花椰菜)   2015-01-25 13:20:00
XDDD.DDD.DDD.
作者: frostmourne (Task Force141)   2015-01-25 13:20:00
XD
作者: ngalay (*)   2015-01-25 13:21:00
不大可能。现在都网络时代了,还在看实体的男孩裸照?
作者: delphi1989 (FrightenLife)   2015-01-25 13:21:00
点进去根本没原文...嗯?随便找个部落格抹一下就跑?
作者: kuro (支那啃民党 凸 ̄▽ ̄凸)   2015-01-25 13:21:00
本卦缺陷在于:没有法院认证。 失败…
作者: jyekid (会呼吸的痛)   2015-01-25 13:21:00
结果是王丹小时候的裸体照啦 扑扑
作者: wts4832 (住在海边的地瓜)   2015-01-25 13:22:00
狗咬狗腻
作者: ZIQQ001 (大当家)   2015-01-25 13:22:00
恶心 恋童老甲甲
作者: megaje ( )   2015-01-25 13:22:00
有八卦
作者: kuro (支那啃民党 凸 ̄▽ ̄凸)   2015-01-25 13:22:00
看起来就像是一篇脑补文,跟台湾记者报导差不多
作者: OoJudyoO (安康鱼)   2015-01-25 13:22:00
中国人互斗好猛
作者: TheSecrets (祕密的背后是真心)   2015-01-25 13:22:00
蛮好笑的
作者: Riya520 (GO!!!!!!)   2015-01-25 13:23:00
至少把照片拿出来让大家闻香一下
作者: YSJ543 (胜利组的人生)   2015-01-25 13:23:00
FBI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FREEEZZ!!
作者: danny00118   2015-01-25 13:24:00
老共只剩这种程度的抹黑阿
作者: aynmeow (只有我跟喵喵)   2015-01-25 13:25:00
话说如果拿自己的幼体照尻尻算违法吗?
作者: silentence (小飞号:号:)   2015-01-25 13:25:00
有照片再推看看
作者: herculex (专打打手)   2015-01-25 13:25:00
有证据的话,美国人会视而不见?在美国持有就有罪
作者: tmwolf (鲁神)   2015-01-25 13:25:00
一开始的no shit就让我怀疑可信度了...这么口语?
作者: AustinRivers (我尽力了Q___Q)   2015-01-25 13:25:00
典型的抹黑
作者: seedk869 (SoJin+HyeRi)   2015-01-25 13:26:00
..恋童 在美国早抓了 有实质证据吗
作者: nifocy (Nifoa)   2015-01-25 13:28:00
想要趁机拉下来 也准备点证据..
作者: se2422 (库柏)   2015-01-25 13:28:00
真的的话早就抓了 还跟你客气阿
作者: eddieyu (正妹都爱ばか囧)   2015-01-25 13:29:00
丹丹老输
作者: TN3939889 (3939889~)   2015-01-25 13:32:00
没证据
作者: p123yt   2015-01-25 13:32:00
主舟!!
作者: lastmile (帕妮)   2015-01-25 13:32:00
奇怪 怎么丹丹这么有问题但是只有这位人士爆料
作者: john50710 (孙胖)   2015-01-25 13:33:00
想想麦可
作者: lastmile (帕妮)   2015-01-25 13:33:00
到底是我们眼瞎,还是说这是抹黑?
作者: j68345517 (阿斗)   2015-01-25 13:34:00
= =
作者: wumins   2015-01-25 13:40:00
丹哥:摸奶停,下次我们一起吃生鱼片
作者: eiw123 (阿克西斯教信徒)   2015-01-25 13:48:00
有早抓了
作者: pest (这些分钟妳有没有想过我?)   2015-01-25 13:49:00
美国真的持有这种东西连高等法院法官都吃不了案了
作者: Mitch (CowaBunGA)   2015-01-25 13:49:00
这人干么三不五时王丹长王丹短的?
作者: ljxc (圣‧肥宅)   2015-01-25 13:52:00
不意外 学运专出这种咖
作者: JamieWu (JamieWu)   2015-01-25 13:53:00
这次要替王丹讲话 有证据再说 儿童犯罪在美国可是大事
作者: cocabell (爱蜜莉亚我老婆)   2015-01-25 13:53:00
感觉又是典型的七分真 三分假的废文
作者: JamieWu (JamieWu)   2015-01-25 13:54:00
若他真的有相关问题 以后也可能也无法入境美国吧
作者: Taidalmc (歹大欸罗恩希)   2015-01-25 13:54:00
还勾结江洋大盗、推老婆婆下海、强奸母猪对吧
作者: majx0404 (等生命中的一个人)   2015-01-25 14:04:00
嘘修文扯健保那件事来护这篇废文
作者: bernicellu (bernice)   2015-01-25 14:08:00
这有点太脑补了吧..两个人合理交往..是个人自由除非王丹强迫未成年人和他交往..怎么可能..不当流言因为这样就违法了阿..曹长青有事吗,口说要有凭吧喜不喜欢王丹是一回事..但不能讲得那么夸张,证据勒
作者: wowtw108   2015-01-25 14:11:00
曹长青这人非常反共,不过我搞不懂他为什么特别讨厌王丹
作者: bernicellu (bernice)   2015-01-25 14:13:00
王丹健保费这事处理的不好..但不能乱牵拖其他事吧就算未成年人要和王丹交往..他本人自愿,父母同意
作者: g6m3kimo (名为变态的神父)   2015-01-25 14:15:00
一码归一码
作者: bernicellu (bernice)   2015-01-25 14:15:00
只要王丹没违法..曹长青就对他人感情世界管太宽王丹要交几个男朋友..是干曹长青屁事曹长青有些评论不错,但请就诉诸公评的事件,提出评论泄泄只叫还有宅男藏美女裸照没事..同志为何不能藏另一半艳照
作者: slashlin (Bo Rhap)   2015-01-25 14:24:00
中国青
作者: bernicellu (bernice)   2015-01-25 14:24:00
如果有涉及未成年权益,就举发阿..不然,讲这些干麻

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