Neo,
很多这类文章啊！
Here's The Point: Calvinists and Non-Calvinists in the SBC
https://founders.org/2016/05/03/heres-the-point-calvinists-and-non-calvinists-in-the-sbc/
How Calvinism Is Dividing The Southern Baptist Convention
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/06/how-calvinism-is-dividing-the-southern-baptist-convention_n_3399504.html
Are Southern Baptist Calvinists Just Misunderstood?
https://www.christianpost.com/news/southern-baptist-calvinist-misunderstood-richard-land-172140/
（刚好跟您说的相反馁！）
Southern Baptists, Arminians, and Calvinists
http://baptist21.com/blog-posts/2016/southern-baptists-arminians-calvinists/
Will Calvinism Split The Southern Baptist Convention?
http://sbctoday.wpengine.com/will-calvinism-split-the-southern-baptist-convention/
‘Non-Calvinist’ Southern Baptists issue statement of beliefs – by Staff
http://theaquilareport.com/non-calvinist-southern-baptists-issue-statement-of-beliefs-by-staff/
While Calvinists have been present in Southern Baptist life from its earliest
days and have made very important contributions to our history and theology,
【the majority of Southern Baptists do not embrace Calvinism. Even the minority
of Southern Baptists who have identified themselves as Calvinists generally
modify its teachings in order to mitigate certain unacceptable conclusions 】
(e.g., anti-missionism, hyper-Calvinism, double predestination, limited
atonement, etc.). The very fact that there is a plurality of views on
Calvinism designed to deal with these weaknesses (variously described as “
3-point,” “4-point,” “moderate,” etc.) would seem to call for
circumspection and humility with respect to the system and to those who
disagree with it. For the most part, Southern Baptists have been glad to
relegate disagreements over Calvinism to secondary status along with other
important but “non-essential” theological matters. The Southern Baptist
majority has fellowshipped happily with its Calvinist brethren while kindly
resisting Calvinism itself. And, to their credit, most Southern Baptist
Calvinists have not demanded the adoption of their view as the standard. We
would be fine if this consensus continued, but some New Calvinists seem to be
pushing for a radical alteration of this long-standing arrangement.
推 neohippie: 美南现在迦尔文是大宗，几乎没有人自称是阿民念的 11/14 22:38
→ neohippie: 有阿民念顷向的应该会离开美南吧 11/14 22:39
→ neohippie: 以前Billy Grahm影响力很强的时代比较顷阿民念 11/14 22:43
→ neohippie: 这个世代的领导者，Mohler、Moore、Piper 都是 11/14 22:44
→ neohippie: 顷向迦尔文 11/14 22:44
推 neohippie: https://goo.gl/8k4QcZ (美国的新迦尔文主义近代发展) 11/14
22:50
这里有一篇The Calvinism Advisory Committee所撰写的《TRUTH, TRUST, and TESTIMONY in a TIME of TENSION》。SBC Convention建议大家看的。
http://www.sbclife.net/Articles/2013/06/sla5
【We must stand together in rejecting any form of hyper-Calvinism that denies
the mandate to present the offer of the Gospel to all sinners or that denies
the necessity of a human response to the Gospel that involves the human will. 】
Similarly, we must reject any form of Arminianism that elevates the human
will above the divine will or that denies that those who come to faith in
Christ are kept by the power of God. How do we know that these positions are
to be excluded from our midst? Each includes beliefs that directly deny what
The Baptist Faith and Message expressly affirms.
这里讲的很清楚，SBC要全力抵制极端加尔文主义（Hyper-Calvinism），而
John Piper是Hyper-Calvinism的主要代表人物。照您的讲法，SBC现在整个
倒向了Hyper-Calvinism？但是，事实并不是这样啊！是不是您的信息来源
有误？

原来John Piper是Hyper-Calvinism？！

感谢回应老渔您引Russell Moore要被炒鱿鱼是跟政治有关的事Russell Moore 公开在批评川普，所以美南有些人要他下台。不过最后不了了之，Moore现在还是在。最近的SBC大会他还主导一项争议性议题内部我不知道，外面看起来他蛮稳的看poll的资料，好像我真的讲错了，阿民念的还蛮多的我刚才找了一下，问卷原始资料有点不清楚我只找得到十年前的旧资料: https://goo.gl/DPmXTx十年前的资料，强烈支持五点迦尔文已经27%了我有点搞不清楚，资料是说有 30%是阿民念还是解读者把非强烈5点迦尔文通通归类阿民念。说自己是迦尔文“顷向”的应该超过 30%了吧?不过有些东西应该跟地理环境有关系，我基本上都是在美国南部，所以可能受SBTS的影响比较大西岸那边可能比较多阿民念的吧....................................澄清一下，我没在宣称说美南倒向 hyper-Calvinism只能说是偏迦尔文。我找到那个图了: https://goo.gl/fKLhWS然后Steve Gains确实不是迦尔文派的...

52% Strongly disagree ..你是怎么解读成偏加尔文的？

neo常常这样阿，不eylocal autonomy真的是关键，不只是事务性的部分而已；neo真的太不认识浸会精神了。

据我观察，三尺喜欢贬低别人提升自己的优越感。这是他生命中的偶像，应该每天攻克己身的对付。

一群人不就事论事真可笑

↑您这句话似乎也不是在就事论事欸..

欢迎你对号入座对什么样的人，就用适合他的方式对应？话说你们搞懂什么是gateway了吗？

你也开始双重标准了喔，好的不学学三尺。

哪里双重标准？请明示我可没像某人（复数）诬赖别人是分身都已经提关键字了还硬要丢自己的脸更是一绝

人家都走了还在抱怨。

某人（复数）是没看懂吗？

SBTS的领导者是迦尔文主义的，我上面就有写阿旗舰神学院是迦尔文主导不过资料看起来两派是平手bettis: 其实两派大约都是 30% 两边图表要对照不能只看一边下定论anyways, 我讲错，我承认有学到新东西是好事

推Neo的态度