: Ronald Eckert (May 26th, 2016)
: I know it's a bit silly. I do.
我知道这样讲有点夸张,相信我,我知道
: I joined the Army 23 years ago and went on to retire after a career I am quite
: proud of. I am no Captain America (The good one and certainly not the Nazi one)
: , but Captain America was a character I could always identify with.
23年前我加入了美国陆军,经历了一段值得自豪的职涯,现在已经退休了。
我从不认为自己就是那个美国队长 (不是好人队长、更不会是纳粹队长),
但是美国队长的角色一直是一个我身分上可以认同的对象。
: When faced with the moral and ethical dilemmas I faced in my 21 years in the
: service, I always tried to maintain the values that Steve Rogers preached.
在服役的21年间,每当我面对道德良知的冲突时,
我会尽可能坚守Steve Rogers这个角色所传达的价值。
: It was never about being loyal to a system or a group. It's about being true
: to yourself and what you know to be right. I took many lumps along the way,
: knowing that I could stand up and face myself in the mirror every morning.
这个价值从来就不是对于系统或是团体的效忠,而是忠于自己和自己的良知。
一路上我经历许多颠波,但每天早上,我都能在镜子前挺身面对自己。
: This move by Marvel is so fundamentally and disgustingly wrong.
Marvel这次的动作从根本上就大错特错,令人不齿。
: There are so many other characters that could have been used to make whatever
: political point Marvel writers are trying to make. Captain America is the
: wrong choice on so many levels, the biggest and most important of which is the
: fact that he was conceived and created by Jewish writers as a beacon of hope
: against the Nazi aggression in Europe.
Marvel的作者们有无数个角色可以选择、可以用来表达他们的政治观点;
但美国队长在许多层面上来说都是一个错得最离谱的选项,
而其中最关键的一点就是,美国队长是由犹太裔的作者
为了反对纳粹在欧洲的侵略,所设计、创造出一盏希望的明灯。
: This "jumping the shark" idea is so ill-conceived. It isn't art. It's an
: unfeeling and shameless gimmick.
这种纯粹为了吸引目光而自毁前途的想法实在太邪恶了。
这种行为不是艺术创作,只是一种冷感且无耻的手段。
: In the last several years, I have had discussions with friends about how
: antisemitic sentiment is becoming more acceptable as seen in media and
: entertainment. This just seems like one more example of a very disturbing
: trend. It isn't even attempting to mask itself. It is pretty blatant. It feels
: like petulance. "I'm a liberal angry with an America I hate. I have the power
: to destroy an American Icon, so I will. It will make me feel better about my
: own hate and anger."
几年来我和朋友们讨论过,反犹太情绪在媒体和娱乐界开始逐渐被人们接受;
这次美国队长的事件,也只是让这种潮流又多了一个例子,相当令人不安。
它甚至连一点掩饰都没有,如此的明目张胆,却只显得非常幼稚,就像是在说:
“我是自由派的、我讨厌现在这个美国。
我有能力摧毁这个美国的象征,所以我就要这么做。
这能让我对于这份厌恶和愤怒感觉良好。”
: There really aren't too many heroes that Soldiers really identify with. The
: ones they do are pretty extreme. The Punisher and Captain America are among
: the top two. Both are men of conviction. Both have a very developed sense of
: right and wrong.
说到英雄,其实没有几个英雄角色,是士兵们能够认同而且与自身连结的。
少数几位都是非常极端的角色,而制裁者和美国队长就是最具有代表性的两位。
两者都是有强烈信念的男子汉,而且都带着很明确的善恶意识。
: One appeals to the darker nature of the job we are given. It's appealing to
: have the conviction that all of our actions are justifiable and righteous in
: the end, and thereby avoiding any feeling of guilt.
制裁者对我们的吸引力,是基于士兵们在职务上黑暗的本质;
大家都很希望自己的行动都是有正当理由、出于正义的,借此能够消弥我们的罪恶感。
: The other is who we all really want to be in uniform. The one who avoids
: guilt, because he truly knows he made the right decisions based morals and
: ethics. I never boycott anything really. It's not in my nature. This, however,
: has me swearing off Marvel as a brand. I am just one man, but I know I've
: spent more than my share on movies and merchandise.
而美国队长则是我们这些穿制服的人,所想要看齐的对象。
他不会有罪恶感,因为他总是能基于道德和良知做出正确的决定。
我过去从来没有参与过任何抵制活动,这不符合我的个性;
但Marvel这次的动作让我决定彻底放弃这个品牌。
我只是一个人,但我知道我在电影和周边商品上花的钱,已经超过我的份了。
: It's just such an ugly attack. It feels personal.
真的是太难看了,难看到就像是针对我来的一样。
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: Emily Fredrickson (May 27th, 2016)
: @Ronald Eckert yeah it does.
: My great uncle was in the war and saw the really horrible things the Nazis
: did. He is over 90 years old and he has dementia, and he still won't talk
: about it.
我曾舅舅经历过二战,亲眼见过纳粹的恐怖。
他已经高龄90,有老人痴呆,但仍从来不谈那些事。
: It is just sad to think this is what someone like Steve Rogers has been
: reduced to: a Dancing Monkey for people with political statements. What that
: writer did was Pure Bully! Everything Steve Rogers hates!
这真的让人倍感悲哀,看到Steve Rogers这个角色变成人们发表政治声明的魁儡。
这个作者的行为是纯粹的霸凌!就是Steve Rogers最痛恨的行为!
: He didn't want to kill anyone, he didn't like Bullies. This writer is a bully
: and I think he should be fired for this.
Steve Roger从未主动想要杀人,他讨厌霸凌者。
这个作者就是个霸凌者,而他应该为此被开除。