Re: [新闻] A380改!

楼主: QuentinHu (囧兴)   2017-06-19 01:48:42
好奇爬了一下文,这台A380 Plus应该是"好几个计画的综合体"
不是只有改wintip而已,这在空巴的新闻稿里面有说明
当然为什么可以做到-13%座位成本,-4%油耗
主要是跟main deck全经济舱 跟3-5-3座椅配置有关
连PY舱都建议放主甲板然后改成3-3-3配置
https://goo.gl/Np9D87
我个人觉得空巴新闻稿里面
把增加的座位数,打散到各细小的改善项目里面
让人觉得好像增加出来的座位主因不是3-5-3配置
但想也知道,这些增加的座位数是基于3-5-3 Y舱跟3-3-3 PY舱推算出来的
如果靠动些小地方就能增加那么多
那只有一个可能就是原本的设计是烂到爆
反正现在A380就是卖得烂到爆
空巴也不认为投入更多预算改Neo会让A380起死回生
只能拼拼看靠改舱间配置看能不能挽救回一点什么
至少把现有未出货的订单改成A380 Plus去降低每座成本
看能不能让航空公司少抱怨一点...
1.New Forward Stairs –
20 more passengers (Business, Premium Economy & Economy Classes)
The NFS involves relocation of the forward stair from Door 1 to Door 2, and
combining the entrance of the NFS to the upper deck (going up), with the
adjacent staircase to the lower-deck crew-rest (going down). The NFS would
make room for up to 20 additional passengers.
修改了前舱的楼梯设计,可以提供最大+20的座位
Combined Crew-Rest Compartment (CCRC)
– three more passengers (Premium Economy)
For the CCRC, the existing flight-crew-rest (behind the cockpit in the
mezzanine area at Door 1) is moved down and combined with the cabin crew rest
on the lower deck. This innovation frees space for three extra
Premium-Economy passengers at the front of the main-deck.
把驾驶舱后方的组员休息区取消,跟下甲板的组员休息区合并
空间有没有变小没有讲,但这样做会不变小也很怪啦
11-abreast 3-5-3 economy layout on the main-deck
– 23 more passengers (Economy Class)
Thanks to an innovative seating concept developed by Airbus and its seating
partners, Airbus is able to maintain an 18inch seat-width while offering
airlines an 11-abreast Economy Class on the main-deck in a ‘3-5-3’
configuration. This enables an increase in capacity of 23 seats – adding
significantly to the A380’s revenue-generating potential.
奴隶船再升级...这就不用多解释了
基本上我觉得这是不可能被采用的配置
A380是可以执飞长程航线的机型
换了3-5-3 就变得不适合飞长程航线
那航空公司是要怎么定位这台飞机?
New Aft-Galley Stair Module (AGSM)
– 14 more passengers + two food trolleys
The AGSM involves the redesign of the rear-stair from a spiral configuration
to a straight/square one. On the main-deck, this allows valuable storage
volume for galley modules. Overall the AGSM provides space for 14 more
revenue passengers plus two extra food trolleys.
后方的螺旋楼梯被改成一般楼梯
可以多坐14个人跟多放两台餐车
Upper-deck sidewall stowage removal
– 10 more passengers (Business Class)
The option to remove the sidewall stowages on the upper-deck increases the
wall-to-wall cabin width at foot-rest height – which makes space for up to
10 more business class seats / beds when an angled herring-bone arrangement
is used.
上层甲板靠墙侧的储存空间被拿掉
可以多放十个商务舱座位
Nine-abreast Premium Economy on the main deck –
11 more passengers (Premium Economy)
PY舱改放到主甲板然后改3-3-3配置
作者: littleyow (有话直说)   2017-06-19 02:03:00
353......
作者: yodi ( )   2017-06-19 02:06:00
影片 https://goo.gl/mS5iCF 前楼梯改成那样,哪间会买 = =把头等跟商务放上层,叫VIP走那窄到不行的走道,不被骂死才怪
作者: ciswww (Farewell)   2017-06-19 02:29:00
楼梯超窄 是假设机场都有空桥直接连接upper deck?
作者: MDRZ7 (MDR-Z7)   2017-06-19 03:33:00
赞 奴隶船再升级3-5-3中间那个位置应该会给票价最低的人坐XDD
作者: prussian (prussian)   2017-06-19 03:54:00
改配置其实每次航空展都拿出来重提一次,一直没人买单XD
作者: ATR72 (文人相轻自古皆然)   2017-06-19 08:04:00
真是天才,干脆把商务舱改成跟组员休息区一样上下舖,瞬间座位数X2好了
作者: leopika (李奥纳多皮卡皮丘)   2017-06-19 09:34:00
都加钱买py了还3-3-3也太惨
作者: tinystudio (过期的缘份...)   2017-06-19 10:25:00
改这样不好吗? C舱2-3-2,PY舱3-3-3,Y舱3-5-3
作者: chewie (北极熊)   2017-06-19 10:43:00
说真的都是苟延残喘啦 真的有兴趣投入的业者应该很少...
作者: fastech (被解体的试验车)   2017-06-19 10:57:00
EK获利都大减了,没取消A380就要偷笑了最多也只是转换部分A380成A380plus
作者: xvited945 (sk0k0)   2017-06-19 11:17:00
C舱2-3-2也太鸟
作者: fastech (被解体的试验车)   2017-06-19 11:34:00
EK.QR.TK777商务舱都是2-3-2,断面更大的A380 2-3-2算好了
作者: soredia (幸福新生活)   2017-06-19 13:52:00
QR 777是2-3-2?应该是2-2-2才对吧...
作者: fastech (被解体的试验车)   2017-06-19 14:13:00
QR是多打打错了,感谢指正
作者: SEPHI (morph..morph....)   2017-06-19 15:35:00
我正在排队进场 等等看看有没机会看这台
作者: ohsI (阿奇)   2017-06-19 15:49:00
看得到LBG吗
作者: fastech (被解体的试验车)   2017-06-19 16:49:00
这架F-WWDD一直保存在LBG机场
作者: SEPHI (morph..morph....)   2017-06-19 21:20:00
作者: Piin (过去 现在与未来)   2017-06-19 22:06:00
飞的这架不是改翼端帆的那架
作者: FAFAYEN (发发颜)   2017-06-20 05:07:00
干脆改双舱等C:333 Y:353 推给Ryanair做洲际航线同学专业
楼主: QuentinHu (囧兴)   2017-06-20 16:03:00
lol 发发都坐Ryanair 吗

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