Re: [普雷] 猛毒其实就蛮中规中矩的阿

楼主: carotyao (汐止吴慷仁)   2018-10-03 18:50:37
分享一下为什么我觉得这个版本的venom塑造的还不错的原因
可以参照这篇
https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/movie/M.1533090350.A.F0F.html
基本上比较少人会从"第一个上身的是死侍"的角度去切入猛毒的,
因为那意义不大就是了。
接下来就剧透了
接下来就剧透了
这是猛毒对宿主们的评价,
因为是猛毒所以语法很奇怪。
Been to many worlds, but none of them this strange.
Understood feelings before, but simple feelings -
like colors, bold and bright. Happy. Sad. Angry.
我去过了很多地方,但没有一个像这里这么奇怪,
很多以前知道的感情,但更加的纯粹。
像是色彩,大胆且明亮、快乐、伤心以及愤怒。
Then... met Spider-Man. Feelings got complicated.
Learned guilt. Also the first time I felt fear. Felt agony.
Learned feeling: Betrayal. Learned first words they called me.
Monster. Parasite. Bad.[...]
Feels good to be a hero. Did bad things, too. Can't deny.
然后,遇见了蜘蛛人,我的情感变得复杂,
学会了内就也是我第一次感到了恐惧,感受到了难受,
也让我学到了.........被背叛。
我也学到了很多字眼,他们这样叫我。
“怪物”“寄生虫”“坏东西”
我很开心我当个英雄,但我也不否认我做过很多坏事。
Mac Gargan was bad. Thoughts like poison stingers.
It was a thrill to kill. Knew it was bad. Didn't care.
Gargan made it easy. Got to punish Gargan for what he did.
He was evil and afraid.
Mac Gargan是个坏家伙(返校日电影那个脸上有疤的些子人,
他的想法就像毒针一样,对她来说杀人是种快感,
他知道这很坏,但是不在乎,对他来说这轻而易举。
必须要制裁他的所作所为,他是邪恶且令人害怕的。
Lee Price was not afraid. He was a soldier. Hurt and desperate.
I trusted him. Talked to him. But Lee was too strong.
Didn't want to talk. Didn't want to be a hero. Wanted power.
Couldn't stop the bad things he was doing.
Lee was bad. Hurt me. Eddie hurts me too, sometimes,
李并不令人害怕,他是个士兵,一个伤心透顶的人。
我信任他,我与他聊天,但李有点太强大了,
他拒绝沟通,他不想当个英雄,
他只想要力量,我没办法阻止他干坏事。
李也是坏蛋,他伤害了我,Eddie也会伤害我,有些时候。
but Eddie is different. Eddie never means to.[...] if Eddie is good,
why do we disagree? if disagree... am I a monster? parasite? bad?
can't be bad.
但Eddie是与众不同的,他不真正具备“某个身分”
如果他当个好人的话为什么我们要否定他?
如果否定他的话,
那我们是个怪物、寄生虫、坏蛋、那又哪里错了。
Wasn't bad with Flash. Fought with heroes.
Was a hero. Trained another symbiote. Got to learn. Got to teach.
Flash called me partner. Was never afraid like Spider-Man.
But Flash is gone... and heroes don't hide. Not from anything...
especially their mistakes
跟Flash在一起也不错,我们是一组英雄,曾经是。
我们训练了别的共生体,我们一起学习、一起指导。
Flash叫我伙伴,他也不会像蜘蛛人那样恐惧我,
但Flash已经死了。..............
那些英雄从不躲藏、从不回避任何事情,特别是他们所犯的错.....
这个Venom没有被这些人上过身,
他对Eddie的情感是纯粹的,是简单的,
自然得到的回响也就是这么单纯有趣,
最近漫画上面的猛毒也因为Flash跟Eddie往好的方向成长类似是这样了,
所以我觉得他没有残暴,
没有以往Venom最重要的情感"愤怒"是合理的,
因为Venom的愤怒是来自于被蜘蛛人的背叛+Eddie怨恨蜘蛛人造成的,
(前面连结有理由)但Venom并没有经历过这些。
关于这点是我想帮本片Venom个性跟行为上平反的,
也是为什么我会喜欢这样的塑造的XD
感谢
作者: ScorpioJI102 (Benji)   2018-10-03 21:20:00
是内"疚"吧

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