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"We all find whatever we need in a particular character, whatever that
may be."
我们都会在某位英雄身上找到自己需要的东西，不论那是什么。
The political climate in the country has been heating up even more since
Donald Trump became the 45th president of the United States and began
implementing his policies less than two weeks ago.
两周前，在川普就任为第45任总统且开始着手执行他的各项政策后，美国国内的政治
氛围就开始更加激化。
So far, the most contentious of the orders put in place by Trump temporarily
bans travel from seven Muslim-majority countries to the U.S. One of the
reoccurring symbols that has come from protests of those opposed to that
policy is the image of Captain America, a comic book superhero created by
writer Joe Simon and artist Jack Kirby in 1941.
到目前为止，川普最有争议的一项行政命令是暂时禁止七个穆斯林为主要组成人口
国家的人民入境美国。在抗议这项行政命令的场景中，由Joe Simon(作家)与Jack
Kirby(画家)在1941年创造的漫画英雄角色“美国队长”经常作为象征出现在队伍之中。
Simon's middle of five children,Melissa Groben, told Heat Vision on Tuesday
she is well aware people are using her father's creation to convey a message,
but that sentiment is nothing new.
Melissa Groben，Joe Simon第三个孩子也是目前他所有创作智财权的现任管理者，
周二向我们表示这样的情况(抗议川普行动中出现美国队长形象)她完全知道，但这
情形过去已出现过。
"Captain America has been around for a long time, so anytime there is any
turmoil or unrest or disagreement, he pops up,"
"We all find whatever we need in a particular character, whatever that may
be. So, I can't say that the way anyone is using the character is wrong.
If that's what they see in the character, then that's what works for them."
她表示“美国队长已经诞生这么久，每当有动荡、抗议或是意见相左的情形时，他就
会出现。我们都会在某位英雄身上找到自己需要的东西，不论那是什么。所以，我不
能指出任何人使用美国队长形象的方式是错的。如果美国队长代表他们想传达的意念
人们当然会因此高举他的形象，当成一个象征。”
Groben, the executor of her father's estate, made clear the views she was
sharing with Heat Vision were her own, and that she was not speaking on
not speaking on behalf of the entire family.
她特别强调，接受我们访问时表达的意见完全是她个人想法，不代表整个家族的意见。
"What Captain America represents to my neighbor might be different than
what he means to someone from three towns over," she said."
她继续说到“我邻居怎么诠释美国队长，可能与住在三个镇之外的人不同”
Captain America was created by Simon and Kirby before the United States
entered World War II, which occurred in December 1941. The first issue,
published months before the U.S. entered the war, featured one of the most
famous covers in comic book history, depicting Cap punching Adolf Hitler in
the face.
Simon与Kirby是在美国介入第二次世界大战前创造出美国队长这个角色，在1941年12月
美国正式参战半年前，三月份出版的美国队长第一期封面就展示了历史留名的一个画面
“美国队长一拳打在希特勒脸上”。
"Captain America was created while the Jews were being killed off in Europe,
and my father, being Jewish, and Jack, being Jewish, were enraged that
America was not over there with our military strength,"
"They created Captain America to go after Hitler because our country
wouldn't go after Hitler. My father was very, very, very pro America, pro
Jewish, he was very traditional, and it was a different world back then."
Melissa女士表示“美国队长是欧洲各地犹太人被赶尽杀绝时创造出来的。我父亲与
画家Jack Kirby两位犹太裔美国人对于美国没有使用武力介入这样惨绝人寰悲剧的
情况感到愤怒。因为我们国家没有要阻止希特勒，所以他们两人才创造美国队长在
漫画世界里阻止希特勒。我父亲是非常非常非常传统的美国人、犹太人。当时的时空
环境与今日可是大不相同”
As for the character being used as a symbol for those opposing Trump's
polices, Groben said she couldn't speak for her father in that regard.
However, "He saw the character used in many different ways and was thrilled
that people found something in the character that fed whatever they were
looking for."
对于美国队长出现在抗议川普行动中一事，Melissa女士表示她不能代替自己已经
逝世的父亲发言。但是，Melissa女士提到“我父亲生前曾看过美国队长在许许多多
不同场合出现过，他对于人们可以在这个角色身上看到自己追寻的事物感到兴奋”
These days, Chris Evans is likely the face that comes to mind when people
think about Captain America, as he's the actor portraying Simon and Kirby's
creation in Marvel blockbusters. And Evans has been vocal himself about his
opposition to Trump's polices, which is fine with Groben.
在多部漫威票房卖座电影中诠释美国队长一角的Chris Evans可能是人们想起他时脑海
中所浮现的第一人选。而Evans公开反对川普政策，对于Melissa女士来说并没有造成
困扰。
"Mr. Evans is not representing his views as Captain America, he is
representing his views as an individual," said Groben. "He has been in many
other roles and is a fantastic actor. He really did a great job as Captain
America, but we have to separate fiction from reality. He is not speaking as
Captain America. He is speaking as Chris Evans. And that's the way it should
be. His viewpoints are his own."
她这样说到“Evans先生并不是以美国队长的身分表达意见。他是以个人身分发表自己
的看法。他曾经演出许多不同角色，而且是位出色的演员。他诠释的美国队长真的很
棒，但我们必须区分现实世界与虚构世界的不同。他并不是以美国队长的身分发言，
这是Chris Evans在表示个人意见。而他只代表他个人的看法，是我们应该理解的事实”
Simon died in 2011 at the age of 98.
"We're all still reminded of who Captain America is, what he is," said
Simon in a previous interview. "And he is a symbol. We need a leader like
Capitan America, a hero. He was that hero, an icon."
Joe Simon在2011年逝世，享年98岁。在他生前受访时曾经这样描述美国队长“直到
今日我们都还记得美国队长是什么样的人物，记得他代表什么。他是一个象征。我们
需要像美国队长一样的领袖，一位英雄。而他就是这样的英雄，一个象征。”
感想：
Melissa女士作为美国队长共同创作者的女儿及版权现任管理者，心中最在乎的还是
角色本身。她没有要在这一刻因为美国政治氛围、甚至是Chris Evans这位美国队长
萤幕化身的大明星个人政治取向选边，只想确保父亲的创作是超乎在这一切之上，
是一个能继续留芳后世的存在。
Good Job.