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作者: usnavyseal (usmarine2008) 看板: Gossiping
标题: [爆卦] 外媒副会长: 台湾的城市设计沦为车本主义
时间: Fri Nov 24 18:55:17 2023
https://twitter.com/heguisen/status/1727564950376448222
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Chris Horton 何贵森，驻台外媒、目前为自由记者、也是台湾外籍记者联谊会副会长
本文用爆卦 因为提到一些政治内容
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Taiwan's urban design makes it clear that cars are more important than
pedestrians or cyclists, who are an afterthought at best
*cars and scooters
台湾的城市设计明确地表明，汽车和机车比行人或骑自行车的人更重要，行人或骑自行车的人
顶多只是个附加配件。
与网友的对话
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网友 Lemnos: I think it’s because Taiwan streets were mostly built under the
Japanese, before modern transport. It’s very distinctive. If you look at
Singapore or SK, it’s American engineering. In HK, British.
我觉得是因为台湾的街道大多是在日治时期建的，在现代交通工具出现前。很有特色。
你看新加坡或韩国，都是美国的工法。在香港，则是英国的。
何贵森: Sure, but Japan left in 1945... the different incarnations of the ROC
have had nearly 80 years to improve things.
同意，但日本在1945离开了... 台湾的不同政权已经有将近80年的时间来改善这些问题。
网友 Lemnos: But street scapes are hard to adjust, property laws and physical
restraints. Not an excuse, just reality in dealing with inherited
infrastructure.
但街道景观难调整，有产权法律和物理限制。这不是借口，处理基础设施有现实面的考量
网友 Need: Absolutely no excuses...if you look at even older streets around
TW, they had 亭仔跤 (tîng-á-kha) or verandas for pedestrians. The ROC
government just never put too much thought or wanted to spend $ in developing
TW. They just saw TW as a temporary base before they reclaim China.
完全没有借口...如果你看看台湾甚至更古老的街道，他们有亭仔跤或行骑楼。中华民国
政府从来没有太多思考或想要花钱在台湾的发展上。他们只是把台湾当作暂时的基地，
在他们重新占领中国之前。
网友 Lemnos: I think a bit unfair, if you know the history. The physical
constraints to remodel the existing streets was a political/ social issue.
Not a high priority as you infer. Redevelopment does not just incur costs,
but social costs of existing owners, renters, commercial interests.
如果你懂历史，不会这样评论。重改造现有街道的物理限制是1个政治/社会问题，不是你
口中的高优先事项。重建不仅会带来成本，还有现有业主、租户、商业利益的社会成本。
网友 Need: My point is that the Japanese actually left a fairly well
developed urban planning in TW. Most of these poorly planned streets were
designed & built by the KMT who clearly didn't give a shit. Social costs? KMT
could care less about the Taiwanese for things that they really wanted to do.
日本人其实留下了相当发达的城市规划给台湾。多数的规划不良的街道是由国民党设计和
建造的，他们显然不在乎。社会成本吗？国民党对台湾人所真正想做的事情毫不在呼。
作者: Colonial Japan clearly failed to anticipate the rise of the SUV in 大安区
显然，日治时期没有预见到 SUV在大安区的崛起。（外国人的讽刺XD）
网友 Need: Haha... I bet most of 大安区 were planned by the KMT. BTW, the only
reason my neighbourhood was relatively well planned was because it was develop
-ed mainly for government (bureaucrats/military) personnels and with US aid.
哈哈... 我敢打赌大安区的大部分是由国民党规划的。顺便一提，我住的社区规划相对好些
，是因为它主要是为政府（官僚/军事）人员规划的，并且得到了美国的援助。
作者: My neighborhood definitely planned by the Japanese - lots of pre-40s
buildings here.
我的邻里肯定是由日本人规划的 - 这里有很多40年代以前的建筑。
网友 Need: No tîng-á-kha (verandas) ? 没有亭仔跤 (骑楼) 吗？
第二段对话 （一样是回应作者的推文关于车本主义）
网友 Need: Not in this part of Taipei...clean and wide sidewalks on both
sides of every single street here.
台北的这一区不是车本主义...这里每条街道的两边都有干净而宽敞的人行道。
作者: Where is this magical place of which you speak?
你说的这个神奇的地方在哪
备注
难得爱台的外媒开炮了，还是外籍记者联谊会副会长XD
平时超级挺台湾的，这时候指控台湾的城市是车本主义，会被攻击吗～