[新闻] Toyota Mirai 车主被要求要经常加满氢气

楼主: Scape (non)   2018-07-31 10:22:34
原文连结:
https://goo.gl/8RVxYo
原文内容:
Hydrogen Shortage Hits Hard: Toyota Mirai Owners Urged To Top Up Frequently
标题:来自于氢气短缺的沉重打击:Mirai 车主被要求要经常加满氢气
Hydrogen shortages in California are causing trouble with refueling hydrogen
fuel cell cars, particularly in the Los Angeles area.
加州的氢气短缺给氢燃料电池汽车加氢带来了麻烦,特别是在洛杉矶地区。
We were often told that hydrogen is the most abundant element, so we wonder
how it could be that there are shortages? Especially shortages at places like
hydrogen refueling stations, where there should be hydrogen everywhere.
氢是最丰富的元素,所以我们想知道怎么会短缺? 特别是加氢站等地方的短缺,
应该到处都有氢气。
According to a Green Car Reports article, at least at some of the 33 hydrogen
refueling stations in California, FCVs owners might be surprised by a lack of
hydrogen.
根据Green Car Reports 的一篇文章,至少在加州的33个加氢站,FCV的车主可能会
因氢气短缺而感到惊讶。
At one station there is even a message with info from Toyota: “Be advised:
Hydrogen delivery issues everywhere. Don’t take chances, top off frequently.
Toyota hotline says dealers know, will comp you for rental car.”
在一个加氢站点,甚至还贴了一张来自Toyota 的公告:
“请注意:氢气运送问题随时有可能发生。 不要冒险,经常加满。
Toyota 热线说,经销商知道这问题,将为您提供租车服务。”
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Not only Toyota Mirai drivers (3,687 sales by the end of June 2018) but also
those with Honda Clarity Fuel Cell and Hyundai Tucson Fuel Cell vehicles will
be affected.
不仅Toyota Mirai 车主(2018年6月底前总销量为3,687辆),还有Honda Clarity 和
Hyundai Tucson FCV 将受到影响。
(注:Mirai 2015年8月开始在美国销售)
Well, the cause seems to be unexpected disruptions at Air Products, which
supplies the hydrogen. They are suggesting it will be early August before
supplies are restored.
原因似乎是供应氢气的Air Products 公司的意外。他们暗示将在8月初恢复供应。
“Toyota is aware that certain fuel-cell vehicle owners in the Los Angeles
area are currently experiencing refueling challenges because of limited
hydrogen supply at several local fueling stations. While the station operator
works to resolve this short-term issue, we are working with our Mirai
(fuel-cell car) customers to help identify alternative fueling options,
including as a temporary measure, opening our commercial hydrogen fueling
station at the Port of Long Beach…We sincerely regret the current
inconvenience for our customers,” Toyota said in a statement emailed to
Green Car Reports.”
Toyota 意识到LA 地区的某些FCV 车主目前正在经历加氢挑战,因为几个当地加氢站
的氢气供应有限。 当加氢站运营商努力解决这个短期问题时,我们正在与我们的Mirai
客户合作,帮助确保替代燃料选择,包括作为临时措施,在Port of Long Beach 开放
我们的商用氢燃料站......我们真诚地为我们的客户带来的不便表示遗憾,
“Toyota 在发给Green Car Reports 的email 中如此说道。”
And here is what Green Car Reports learned from Air Products spokesman Arthur
George:
以下是Green Car Reports 从Air Products 发言人Arthur George 那里听来的:
“We are actively working to resolve this unexpected disruption, which has
been caused by a contemporaneous series of unrelated issues at several liquid
hydrogen production and supply sites. We are addressing the matter as rapidly
as we can and are hopeful to have the situation remedied and have restored
regular hydrogen supply in the early days of August. We regret any
inconvenience that may have resulted…. We regret any inconvenience fueling
customers may be currently experiencing, and reassure you we are focused on
resolving the issue as soon as possible,”
Well, we can now add worries of lack of hydrogen to the lists of doubts we
have connected to FCVs.
心得/说明:
Mirai 在北美卖了两年11个月卖出36xx 辆,主要的问题除了产能极为有限之外
需求也是一大问题
虽然FCV 对比BEV 有着补充燃料快速的优点
但前提是基础设施要完善、数量多,供应也要不虞匮乏
如果开去加氢站来回要半小时,加氢5分钟
那相对于可以在家充电的BEV 来说反而是多花时间
FCV 想在家里补充燃料是几乎不可能的(需要投入的资金跟空间太多)
另外氢气也跟汽油一样,需要车辆运输到站点
这新闻就是因为氢气供应商出问题而导致无氢可加
目前FCV 也开不出加州,因为站点实在太少了,找不到地方加氢
这些目前就直接面对的问题,导致FCV 需求不高
除非有哪间大车厂转型成能源供应商
(靠政府的话可能需要十几年或几十年都还不一定办的成,变量太多)
先自行砸下大笔金钱建设基础设施与确保氢气供应
(一座加氢站不含土地需花费3-500万镁)
否则对消费者来说,看到加氢站那么少,就很难提升FCV 的需求
另外就是目前加氢对比BEV 所需的电费其实是很贵的(Toyota 有补贴Mirai 车主)
不过若是用在商用的大客车大卡车上,因为路线固定不需要很多加氢站
FCV 就很适合
作者: zzahoward (Cheshire Cat)   2018-07-31 10:28:00
Toyota已经把FCV重心完全放在商用车上了事实上去年底Toyota某些讯息就透露FCV在小车上面注定难普及 所以FCV未来新推出的车型主力将会都是商用车
作者: Gunslinger (串烧)   2018-07-31 10:42:00
坐等某缸
作者: zzahoward (Cheshire Cat)   2018-07-31 10:42:00
这是FCV氢气罐阿 可以放在大车上面就我知道的状态是他们方向确定是把能量全部投注在大车小车目前暂时不投入更多资源小车会转型成EV
作者: jason89514 (节省福克斯)   2018-07-31 10:57:00
二代Miral/Lexus LS FC都还是会出,然后目前与本田合作的基础建设工程一直都有在进行,但速度相对慢其中mirai将会用新GA-L氢气燃料平台所以不是不做,只是因为Sora为了2020东奥出来之后想要试探一下风向
作者: zzahoward (Cheshire Cat)   2018-07-31 11:10:00
我指的是Pipeline 你提到的车款基本上都在收成阶段了
作者: a9564208 (YOU OUT!!)   2018-07-31 11:18:00
大车接下来会有汰换潮,投资大车合理其他跟不上的只怕会被时代淘汰
作者: callmedance (NightFury)   2018-07-31 11:22:00
电随处可得用氢气也太麻烦了
作者: ghjkl5566 (56不能王)   2018-07-31 14:14:00
LS要出FC喔!酷
作者: ru04hj4 (纯朴乡下人II)   2018-07-31 14:51:00
氢能很难推动 毕竟设充电站比加氢站容易多加上电池可以用在 储能 3C 动力 投资金额很大
作者: ghjkl5566 (56不能王)   2018-07-31 15:12:00
氢你就把它当成另一种电池看的话,楼上你讲的那些氢一样办的到唷不过3C大概办不到就是了
作者: marathons ( 豆娘 囊鼠 蜂鸟 )   2018-07-31 19:02:00
我不想买Mirai最大原因是:包括驾驶只能坐四个人.
作者: SakuraHana (樱花)   2018-07-31 22:58:00
台湾的电缺成这样,随时都在短缺喔~哪天跳电、停电,是瞬间没有喔~不像氢就算短缺,只是量变少,不会完全没有
作者: iamspy (宁)   2018-07-31 23:27:00
居然还能这样解释,真不愧是封缸
作者: jack852   2018-08-01 07:04:00
卖不出去的车....跟sony当时的MD有87分像

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