[新闻] Tesla在挪威与车主的纷争落幕了

楼主: Scape (non)   2016-12-12 21:50:06
大约在一年多以前,一群挪威的Tesla车主不满他们买到的Tesla Model S狂暴模式
不够快,于是向Tesla提出了集体诉讼。这些车主说他们的P85D马力根本没有Tesla
宣称的有691hp,这影响到了它的加速性能,所以联合了一百多位车主提出告诉。
经过了将近两年后,这些车主们与Tesla达成了和解。
Tesla的说法是他们在官网上宣称的0-100加速只需3.3秒甚至是被低估的,实际上
有第三方测得的数据是3.1秒。
这些车主不满的原因是Tesla官网写了P85D具备了前224hp、后467hp的马达动力
加起来有691hp,但实际上把车拉到马力机上面去测只有560hp左右
而Tesla对此的解释是马达动力必须考虑到电力系统的分配与电池的特性,并不能像
燃油引擎那样相加(这是真的,土豪哥Let's talk about cars yo有一集有提到)
这件事情的影响就是从此以后Tesla的官网都把马达动力规格都删掉了,只提加速成绩
所以现在在Tesla官网上都看不到他们用的马达动力有多少了。
这些提出告诉的车主们(总共有132位车主提告,但挪威有超过1200位车主,看来也是很多
车主们不认同他们提告)最后与Tesla达成和解,Tesla会提供每位车主相当于7700元美金
的现金或是让他们选择一些车辆的升级包,例如解锁狂暴模式、一组新的轮圈、
或是Tesla商店折扣。
Tesla真的还蛮大方的,就因为理解上的差异而不是车子瑕疵就对车主做出赔偿
有些传统车商制造的车真的有瑕疵被抓到了,也大都是只负责修车召回了事
很难看到车商会给车主金钱上的赔偿。
Tesla这次花钱了事了,不过也算是又再打了一次广告做公关
就算真实马力测得是560hp,一台接近两吨重的大型车0-100加速只需3.1秒也是很吓人的
更别说现在最新的P100D已经有人测得了2.4秒的夸张成绩
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原文连结:
https://goo.gl/depOaa
原文内容:
Tesla finally settles with disgruntled Model S P85D owners in Norway,
offers cash or upgrades
After almost two years, it looks like the disagreement between Tesla
Model S P85D owners in Norway and the electric automaker over the
representation of the power output of the vehicle is now officially over.
The issue moved from consumer protection agencies to the court and it has
now been resolved out of court after Tesla agreed to partly refund the
owners.
As we previously reported, the issue revolved around the way Tesla was
listing the power of its motors for the Model S P85D, which has two
motors. When first introducing the vehicle, Tesla was marketing the
vehicle as having a combined motor output of 691 hp (467 in the back and
224 in the front).
While those are indeed the correct outputs of each motor, the vehicle was
never able to achieve those numbers due to several other limitations than
only the combined potential output of the motors, like the battery.
Tesla claimed that they always made it clear that the numbers were for
the motors and not the vehicle itself, but some owners felt deceived.
Earlier this year, the Consumer Disputes Commission asked the automaker
to pay 50,000 Norwegian Krones (~$6,000 USD) to each Model S P85D owners.
Following the verdict, a Tesla spokesperson sent us the following
statement:
“Testing done by Tesla and independent third parties has demonstrated
that the Model S P85D’s acceleration and motor power numbers have always
been accurate, even understated. With respect to acceleration, Tesla
described the P85D as having a 0-100 kph time of 3.3 seconds, and Motor
Trend and others actually achieved a time of 3.1 seconds. Similarly, the
motor power numbers used by Tesla were legally required and confirmed as
accurate by European regulatory authorities. Based on this information,
the Consumer Council previously resolved these issues in Tesla’s favor.
Tesla will be reviewing the decision by the Consumer Disputes Commission
to better understand the conclusion that it reached.”
The company later disputed the decision and the matter was going to court
today, but a settlement was reached at the last minute yesterday,
according to local paper Dagens Naeringliv.
Owners were asking for 129,700 Norwegian Krones, which represent the
difference between the Model S 85D and the P85D at the time. The idea
being that those owners would have chosen the former if the power output
difference would have been more clearly defined. Under the terms of the
settlement, Tesla only offers 65,000 krones ($7,700 USD) to each owner or
the option to choose between several other packages, including a ‘
Ludicrous battery upgrade’, a new set of wheels, and Tesla store credits.
DN reports that “most of the 132 Tesla owners” who filed the suit have
agreed to the settlement – though there are about 1,200 Model S P85D
registered in Norway.
作者: PttCraft (WOT NA 怒伯)   2016-12-12 21:53:00
太大方不见得是好事,从另一个角度来解读是鼓励奥客行为
作者: shengyeh (shengyeh)   2016-12-12 21:57:00
因为我们是顾客 当然要鼓励公司大方
作者: miayao417 (mia)   2016-12-12 22:01:00
解锁狂暴模式 XD
作者: endless0121 (囚鸟不要开招 开招时机?2)   2016-12-12 22:02:00
其实这蛮好的 因为电动车牌照税由马力看 如果马力实测较小 之后没优惠免税后 税也是较少(如果税金取决于实测它的马力
作者: orny (射后不理)   2016-12-12 22:07:00
挪威人口似乎也才五百多万,比台北新北加起来还少,tesla就卖了一千多辆。不知道台湾能卖多少?
作者: Brujita (Seby)   2016-12-12 22:12:00
汽油车还不是上马力机后都变低
作者: PttCraft (WOT NA 怒伯)   2016-12-12 22:12:00
其他一千位车主知道了会不会很肚烂? 鼓励集体诉讼啊
作者: JEON (果然是乡民的世界)   2016-12-12 22:31:00
真是不错的国家 在台湾 车厂讲什么你都得吞下去
作者: SakuraHana (樱花)   2016-12-12 22:32:00
例如前挡玻璃破裂事件
作者: volcom (南台灣建材小天王)   2016-12-12 22:33:00
上马力机 每台汽油车都不准啊
作者: endless0121 (囚鸟不要开招 开招时机?2)   2016-12-12 22:36:00
它在台湾上市后没公布过马力啊 如果未来需要缴税 政府总要有个数据来源?
作者: DYE (跟脑残争最后都会变脑残.)   2016-12-12 22:42:00
那就公布值改成560就好了 会买的人还是会买 不买的也是一样为什么要执著691
作者: warlord (玛丽亚的添屎)   2016-12-12 22:47:00
就单纯修理车商华而不实的广告文宣啊 自动驾驶不是也乖乖修正成辅助驾驶了吗 tesla爱搞小聪明被打脸了
作者: DYE (跟脑残争最后都会变脑残.)   2016-12-12 22:49:00
既然特斯拉标榜的是非传统的车厂 是个创新的那落实轮上马力公布 也是该做的方向传统车厂也该朝这方向改进一堆嘴砲马力 到底有什么意思话说回来 "一般"各种使用的电动机 标的功率 是耗能人人都希望知道买的东西能用到多少你随便买个米 也希望知道是净重不是毛重公布一些混沌不清的资讯 模糊消费者 并不是所有消费者都懂要是一个公司 该公布消费者重视的资讯 错了吗就我觉得 每个车厂都应该公布轮上马力 或是中间值
作者: endless0121 (囚鸟不要开招 开招时机?2)   2016-12-12 23:07:00
想知道但它不公布1.你可以不买抵制它2.参考民间实测数据3.更正中文名称没什么不妥 犯错懂得改 才是正确的处世之道
作者: westwet (西溼)   2016-12-12 23:25:00
这很理性严谨呀~对提告车主和tesla皆然,是差不多先生和理盲滥情阿Q人士与擅利用此风气的厂商太多,才把原本就正常的做事态度和案例,反而变成不正常、特例奥客会把车真的拿去马力机跑实测?哈哈厂商敢写,就不能怕被严谨的消费者挑战,除非这厂商本身就不严谨且爱顺手利用该国的民情风气与媒体带风向装正派然后把简单的理性严谨度问题弄得很滥情复杂,那才是糟哪国人不用说,反正看到一个杀人魔就酸人家监狱太优质、社福与法律太没竞争力,车市让不严谨的厂商坐大的就是了在此案例上,不懂理性严谨,只会酸人家爱计较、奥客、自以为最有美德最大方最先进,当然就变“正常”了
作者: warlord (玛丽亚的添屎)   2016-12-12 23:41:00
阿不就和宽带的广告一样 看的到吃不到 要依照当下用户端来决定流量 这种事情早就屡见不鲜了吧~不需要护航
作者: DYE (跟脑残争最后都会变脑残.)   2016-12-12 23:42:00
一般来说 电动机的最大功率 是指可承受的电压下的最大电流并不是他的输出的功率电压跟电流的乘积可以短时间的超负载 但是会发热 累积热量大多数来说 耗用的功率跟输出是成正比的但是消费者想知道的是能输出多少功率 不是最大耗用多少功率
作者: xhouston (长岛冰茶)   2016-12-13 00:03:00
没参加诉讼就表示不认同?真是神逻辑
作者: Dayton119 (LLOO)   2016-12-13 02:46:00
轮上输出?引擎输出?
作者: ss70239ss (打我阿!打我阿!笨蛋)   2016-12-13 06:43:00
被美国人带坏了....
作者: mOuOm (mOuOm)   2016-12-13 07:48:00
马力是什么很多人应该也搞不懂吧
作者: chandler0227 (钱德勒)   2016-12-13 10:39:00
电机有额定功率跟最大功率,整车综效输出功率不可能是所有电机最大功率加总
作者: oiolo (浜森守)   2016-12-13 10:57:00
有吵有糖吃XD
作者: YJM1106 (YM)   2016-12-13 12:26:00
输入691匹电能,输出560匹动能,有81趴耶
作者: abyssa1 (abyssa1)   2016-12-14 10:31:00
Tessa 重新定义马力 汽油车怎么办?

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