[讨论] 关于QD上半场罚球违规那个判例

楼主: asdfgh0920 (A醬)   2017-02-05 20:31:24
关于上半场QD被判罚球违规那个判例,一开始我也是在LIVE文忿忿不平
所以跑去查了FIBA相关规范
以下是2014 fiba的规定:
43.2.3. The free-throw shooter shall:
关于罚球员的规范 :
o Take a position behind the free-throw line and inside the
semi-circle.
o Use any method to shoot a free throw in such a way that the ball enters
the basket from above or the ball touches the ring.
o Release the ball within 5 seconds after it is placed at his disposal by
the official.
从裁判手中接过球后,应在五秒内投射离手
o Not touch the free-throw line or enter the restricted area until the ball
has entered the basket or has touched the ring.
o Not fake a free throw.
不得做罚球假动作
43.2.4. The players in the free-throw rebound places shall be entitled to
occupy alternating positions in these spaces, which are considered
to be 1 m in depth .
During the free throws these players shall not:
o Occupy free-throw rebound places to which they are not entitled.
o Enter the restricted area, the neutral zone or leave the free-throw rebound
place until the ball has left the hand(s) of the free-throw shooter.
o Distract the free-throw shooter by their actions.
抢篮板球时,不得以任何动作干扰主罚球员
43.2.5. Players not in the free-throw rebound places shall remain behind the
free-throw line extended and behind the 3-point field goal line until
the free throw ends.
43.2.6. During a free throw(s) to be followed by another set(s) of free throws
or by a throw-in, all players shall remain behind the free-throw line
extended and behind the 3-point field goal line.
An infraction of Art. 43.2.3, 43.2.4, 43.2.5 and 43.2.6 is a violation.
违反规则43.2.3条、43.2.4条、43.2.5条、43.2.6条,均属于违规
43.3. Penalty
罚则
43.3.1. If a free throw is successful and the violation(s) is committed by the
free-throw shooter, the point, if made, shall not count.
如果罚球中篮,但是罚球员违规的情形,则球进分数不算
Any other player's violation which occurs immediately before, at
approximately the same time as, or after the violation committed by
the free-throw shooter shall be disregarded.
如果罚球员违规,则在之前、同时或是之后的其他球员违规均不追究
The ball shall be awarded to the opponents for a throw-in at the
free-throw line extended unless there is a further free throw(s) or
possession penalty to be administered.
43.3.2. If a free throw is successful and the violation(s) is committed by any
player(s) other than the free-throw shooter:
o The point, if made, shall count.
o The violation(s) shall be disregarded.
如果罚球中篮,而其他球员违规时:中篮有效,且不追究违例
In case of the last or only free throw, the ball shall be awarded to
the opponents for a throw-in at any place at the endline.
43.3.3. If a free throw is not successful and the violation is committed by:
o A free-throw shooter or his team-mate on the last or only free throw, the
ball shall be awarded to the opponents for a throw-in at the free-throw line
extended unless that team is entitled to further possession.
o An opponent of the free-throw shooter, a substitute free throw shall be
awarded to the free-throw shooter.
如果罚球未进,而罚球员的对手违例时,由罚球员重新罚球
o Both teams, on the last or only free throw, a jump ball situation occurs.
研究了规定后,我认为:
富邦抢篮板球员进场过早干扰了QD的罚球,属于罚球违规在先没错
但是QD还是要球投出完成罚球动作
之后如果罚球没进,裁判才会吹判重新罚球
QD因为没有出手,裁判要判罚球假动作或是5秒违规都可以
根据43.3.1 如果罚球员违规,则在之前、同时或是之后的其他球员违规均不追究
因此我认为这次吹判没有问题,大家讨论看看0.0
作者: x73831 (Homer)   2017-02-05 20:34:00
优质好文 推推推
作者: JoelEmbiid (JoelEmbiid)   2017-02-05 20:35:00
但是觉得进场就可以先喊停了已经先违例
作者: jerry213 (平安健康顺心如意)   2017-02-05 20:35:00
嗯 似乎是如此 再赌烂球都要丢出去
作者: minwook0329 (ryeonggu)   2017-02-05 20:36:00
就算先进场也不能喊停 要罚出手后没进才能算违例 进了不追究
作者: NowQmmmmmmmm (卤蛇之王)   2017-02-05 20:37:00
我认为要双方警告就好 因为张也太早进场卡位了XD
作者: StarTouching (抚星)   2017-02-05 20:37:00
除非有明显干扰罚球动作
作者: k71398426   2017-02-05 20:37:00
原来如此 专业推
作者: cwy1029   2017-02-05 20:37:00
张伯维整个站在Q面前..裁判就应该要先吹了吧这已经比球员脚先踏进去还明显了.....原来直接卡在罚球员面前不算明显干扰罚球阿......
作者: Dhc789 (开心看球)   2017-02-05 20:40:00
我进去罚球线遮你眼睛也可以
作者: toko81814 (toko)   2017-02-05 20:40:00
长知识 推
作者: kevinpeng (彭彭)   2017-02-05 20:40:00
这真的烂招
作者: jeff20039612 (po xiao)   2017-02-05 20:43:00
重点是裁判不会吹啊
作者: Tigerchan   2017-02-05 20:44:00
对手违例造成Q无法出手 结果判Q没出手违例 ...
作者: QchchQ (情比金坚)   2017-02-05 20:45:00
你怎么知道q出手没进裁判会不会吹进场过早富黑可能也会说裁判不会吹吧
作者: issaquah (真是不容易)   2017-02-05 20:46:00
问题是张伯维先进来卡位Q才没出手的啊
作者: Tigerchan   2017-02-05 20:46:00
每次富邦比赛就一堆奇怪判决 掉鞋暂停等等 也别怪球迷
作者: cwy1029   2017-02-05 20:47:00
裁判是有很大可能不会吹阿...不然这球怎么会改判
作者: Tigerchan   2017-02-05 20:47:00
一直酸富邦啦 虽然都是裁判问题比较大
作者: agaer (天才)   2017-02-05 20:47:00
张卡在Q前面是在Q罚球假动作之后
作者: iliyu (煎肉盘石)   2017-02-05 20:48:00
那我冲进去抄球这样可以吗= =?
作者: cwy1029   2017-02-05 20:48:00
球员进场过早踩进来很常看..第一次看到卡在罚球员面前的
作者: Beantownfan (豆城电风扇)   2017-02-05 20:48:00
是FIBA推广不利 还是台湾球迷对规则普遍不知?
作者: cwy1029   2017-02-05 20:49:00
到底Q是哪来的假动作....是张整个卡在他面前才停止的
作者: iuy1232002   2017-02-05 20:50:00
最好有奇怪判决都怪在富邦身上
作者: Tigerchan   2017-02-05 20:51:00
我说了是裁判问题很大阿 但富邦有得利情况下 被酸2句也很正常啊
作者: Mcgeeagenius (天才麦基)   2017-02-05 21:01:00
作者: eros910696 (lassiter)   2017-02-05 21:01:00
我跟你赌Q投出去裁判他妈的不会吹进场过早啦干
作者: qoocod0923 (第幾把交椅)   2017-02-05 21:03:00
就差别q没有直接出手反而害了自己
作者: sissyfox (西西湖)   2017-02-05 21:06:00
第一拍就要判张进场过早了 后面检讨Q怎样都多余
作者: h1212123tw (der龟)   2017-02-05 21:09:00
认真不懂为什么要不进才吹?
作者: Wwc0130 (OMG)   2017-02-05 21:12:00
问题是你不能干扰罚球员 之后才有得好好讨论
作者: erotica (eee)   2017-02-05 21:13:00
派布拉过去挡 180后卫根本没办法出手 罚球者违例XD还是要用勾射应罚个出手动作 照规则好棒棒
作者: yangmie (楊咩)   2017-02-05 21:20:00
这种小动作很常见阿 不过这次张冲特别快明显蓄意冲过去干扰罚球员的就直接吹t了哪有什么那我下次就怎样怎样干扰的假设
作者: HollyCross (台客阿嘎)   2017-02-05 21:24:00
好文推!!!
作者: yangmie (楊咩)   2017-02-05 21:26:00
为什么出手后才有违例的吹判是因为这样对罚球者有利
作者: LEO19750 (爱好自由)   2017-02-05 21:29:00
Q在别人罚球时也会突然举手 这样也干扰到主罚球员啊
作者: cwy1029   2017-02-05 21:32:00
Q又没踏进场也没出声音...你管他举手干嘛
作者: NowQmmmmmmmm (卤蛇之王)   2017-02-05 21:34:00
NBA还有人家罚球脱裤子的咧..裁判也不会吹阿
作者: blackhearted (...)   2017-02-05 21:36:00
黑富邦战队快上
作者: anitakkk (anita)   2017-02-05 21:39:00
长知识了! 但不晓得有无2016或2017的更新?
作者: erotica (eee)   2017-02-05 21:40:00
43.3.1 你前五个字就没翻到啦"""If a free throw is successful and 巴拉巴拉 """死不出手不是successful啊 要照规则讲那根本不是这条
作者: briandodo (dodo)   2017-02-05 21:48:00
下礼拜还要上节目解释了吗?
作者: yauli (无敌铁金钢)   2017-02-05 23:02:00
推有求知欲!
作者: vi6 (vi6)   2017-02-06 00:03:00
整个人都卡在前面了裁判不会吹判不会警告
作者: beautydots (看球人)   2017-02-06 00:10:00
看了影片觉得那并不是假动作,QD就是把球往上举,***并没有往下收***,张伯维踏进来干扰他可以不出手,***违例的是张伯维***
作者: Wavecloud   2017-02-06 00:49:00
张那个动作不只是进场过早 而是直接干扰罚球...
作者: captainba (巴船长)   2017-02-06 00:55:00
罚球面包是违例,那如果派人去干扰让主罚者投面包,不就是算主罚者违例,不追究进场过早干扰的人,这样好像也不太合理吧?不然一直派布拉进场过早站在罚球者前面就不用玩了啊
作者: stocktonty (前田忧佳)   2017-02-06 01:33:00
就算有人进场过早还是要出手 裁判没吹是裁判问题
作者: yangmie (楊咩)   2017-02-06 02:21:00
重点就是你要去完成出手阿连出手都没有完成 裁判也只能吹罚球员违例
作者: gogorodd   2017-02-06 07:42:00
讲那么多酸民没兴趣啦……跟他们认真你已输惹
作者: beautydots (看球人)   2017-02-06 08:22:00
楼上比较酸
作者: gogorodd   2017-02-06 10:05:00
谢谢楼上称赞XD
作者: beastlcc12 (兽皇)   2017-02-09 13:20:00
反正只要是富邦跟台啤 一定错!! 法条也无视

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