Re: [请益] 古歌台湾薪水是不是很低

楼主: billandcs (CS神棍)   2018-04-16 14:50:02
印象中Google Staff SWE 以上就是Global pay了,不论到哪边都一样的薪水.
https://goo.gl/HkbPWZ
Quora也有人分享Google Hire Committee怎么判定你的职等.
https://goo.gl/o2Q91o
Google职等分布,不过又有人说Jeff Dean不算T11,他的职等是out of scope.
Anyway, 爬到T6以上就不用担心了,大家可以回家啦~!!!
L1: really really basic level, I don’t think I’ve seen anyone at this level.
L2: entry level. This level only exists in non-Tech.
For the rest, I’ll focus on the Tech org (since this is what the original
question was asking) and use the Tech level.
T3: Tech’s entry level, also known as Software Engineer II.
Yeah don’t be surprised why SWE II is T3 - just historic reason I guess, and
it’s too hard to fix.
Fresh BS / MS without any industry experience is normally hired at T3.
T4: Also known as Software Engineer III
When T3 become independent, and get good projects done, they are promoted to
T4.
Fresh PhD without any industry experience is normally hired at T4.
T5, also known as Senior Software Engineer.
When T4 demonstrates leadership to lead a small team, and ability to design
complex system, they are promoted to T5.
T6, also known as Staff Software Engineer.
When T5 demonstrates leadership to lead a large team, and ability to design
really complex system, they are promoted to T6.
T7, also known as Senior Staff Software Engineer.
When T6 demonstrates even strong leadership to lead one really large team, or
multiple large teams, and ability to design significant system, they are
promoted to T7.
T8, also known as Principal Software Engineer.
This is Director level of scope, but requires technical depth.
T9, also known as Distinguished Software Engineer.
This is Senior Director level of scope, but requires technical depth.
T10, also known as Google Fellow.
This is VP level of scope.
T11, also known as Google Senior Fellow.
This is SVP level of scope.
This is Jeff Dean and Sanjay Ghemawat level.
Btw, there’s a common rumor that Jeff Dean is the only Google Senior Fellow.
That’s not true, Jeff and Sanjay were always the same level for many years.
They were promoted to Google Fellow together, and they were promoted to
Google Senior Fellow together. It just happens that Jeff is a lot more
externally known, and Sanjay rarely shows publicly. They both get the same
level of respect from the rest of the company.
作者: bluebluelan (新阴流大目录免许皆传)   2018-04-16 15:27:00
先拼到T5再讲
作者: Csir (张胖胖)   2018-04-16 15:41:00
先有机会面试再讲吧
作者: steve1012 (steve)   2018-04-16 15:42:00
sanjay也是很屌 扯
作者: sigma0307 (surf)   2018-04-16 16:09:00
台币3M也不会很低吧 在台湾蛮够用的 工时又不长 去MTK工时就没那么自由了
作者: benting (ben)   2018-04-16 16:13:00
好文
作者: alden (这真是太危险啦)   2018-04-16 16:16:00
T6以上global pay 是那来的八卦 求连结
作者: moboo (我是陈米布)   2018-04-16 16:22:00
我觉得你误会了 像是纽约西雅图也能拿湾区薪水的意思很多人在Google五年七年T3的 T3->T4很多人就很难升上去了对很多部门来说T6已经是senior manager了除非你是顶尖大学博士,搞不好要干十几年...你的建议很像"在Google干到资深经理就能退休了"当然啊但是大部分人都是万年IC啊
作者: steve1012 (steve)   2018-04-16 18:09:00
3升4哪有万年阿…
作者: moboo (我是陈米布)   2018-04-16 18:18:00
很多部门是万年....所以还是会建议大家能谈高一级就谈没有万年来个三四年就受不了我仔细看一下我的推文我是说万年IC吧如果你觉得T3–>T4简单是因为你厉害啊很多人T3进来很久升的,不要用自己部门看大家
楼主: billandcs (CS神棍)   2018-04-16 21:21:00
其实大家也大概知道答案了,要成为T6, hire as one最快……
作者: fairyofmoon (工作 是 为了 不工作)   2018-04-16 21:23:00
台湾有87%的headcount 都T3/T4啊
楼主: billandcs (CS神棍)   2018-04-16 21:58:00
不然一般公司经理占了90%吗? 除了直销外……
作者: ftwd   2018-04-17 15:44:00
global pay谁还要待湾区给高房价租荼毒?
作者: sysc (和平时多准备)   2018-04-17 19:28:00
google 不是在mountain view 怎么要住湾区?san jones 或是更南不是都能住 2000USD /month照现在我觉得amazon 应该是会慢慢赢Google...
作者: pttccbbs (中华电信)   2018-04-17 20:38:00
T3 升 T4 本来就很难 你的对手都是奥运级的 你要怎么玩sycs 你想太多了 你看看A的本益比 基本上 呵呵
楼主: billandcs (CS神棍)   2018-04-17 21:03:00
都进去G社了,应该知道同事很废的几乎是零吧……又不是养老院
作者: ruthertw (小叶老大)   2018-04-18 10:15:00
作者: sysc (和平时多准备)   2018-04-18 18:22:00
pttccbbs 我从700就握有amazon, G也是700持有 但真的有差科技从来不看本益比 到现在我G社全丢了 A 还有一半hire的方式直接影响可能性,G 走菁英, A是有用全hire我认为G的发展会慢慢被A 影响吃掉10%左右 所以会变差

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