[消息] CTSA冲浪协会目前情况?

楼主: bzxbzxbzxbzx (busyx)   2017-08-08 19:58:29
转自Neil Macdonald(国内长短版好手-潘海心选手父亲,也是国内少数有ISA裁判资格之一)
这阵子,大家一直问我,对CTSA讲话干嘛这么客气。这答案很简单,我接受的教育教导我对权威要有礼貌,遵守游戏规则,有问题发问、得到了解答就该放下了。但和CTSA打交道完全不是这么一回事,你提出问题,CTSA完全没回应,那我就有话直说了。
1. Q:谁是CTSA?我付了500元新台币会费,没有T-shirt没有帽子也没有身为会员该有的投票权,他们到底哪了我的500块去干嘛?
A:他们必须收一定数目的会员,以达到政府认可组织的最低门槛。整个就在乱搞。
2. Q:为什么他们不回复我询问CTSA会员人数以及理监事如何组成以及票选过程?A:因为我只是个住在台湾南端的外国人,对他们来说我连个屁都不是,遑论发表意见,更不用说是试着想了解台湾人怎么做事的。CTSA不回应是因为他们根本就没办法合理解释,他们总不可能承认他们的组成其实是没有遵照人民团体法的
3. Q:CTSA里谁投票表决决定哪些选手能够代表台湾参赛?A:没有人有投票权,除非你是CTSA里的核心人物,这些人同时也决定谁有资格当比赛裁判以及谁有资格拿政府补助出国比赛。
4. Q:为何CTSA比赛中只邀请他们喜欢的或是他们能掌控的裁判?
A:我所谓他们能掌控的裁判是指他们用了三位未经训练,未通过测验的“裁判”去评判最后一场准决赛以及决赛,同时,还有数位裁判身兼选手正在场中比赛. 我没有要对裁判长不敬的意思,但裁判长该扮演的角色应该是很明确的才对。
5. Q:有多少的CTSA裁判有能力去评判超出自己冲浪能力这么多的选手 ?A:几乎没有。只上了几个礼拜的裁判课程,不会瞬间把你变成裁判或甚至变成教练。当你对基本的浪底回旋、浪顶甩浪垂直上下浪壁......等动作都没有基本概念的时后,很抱歉你根本就没有资格当裁判。这不是裁判的错,这是这个冲浪组织的问题,CTSA的作法太不专业,招募新兵,连枪该怎么握都不会就赶他们上战场。你看看法国比赛发生的事就好了,没办法划出去!真正的比赛管你浪是一呎还是十呎高,你都要有办法驾驭。评选委员这一点你们好好笔记一下。
6. .Q:我只在六年前一场海南岛的比赛看到CTSA的核心人物在赛场上快闪出现和ISA打完交道后,随即消失。你在国际赛事上频频缺席,是要怎么取得其他亚洲国家或甚至是全世界的重视跟尊重?.A:他们完全没有概念要花多久的时间以及多少的努力才能让外面的世界接纳他们,接纳一个躲在台湾东北角的一小群人。不要说全世界,就连在台湾也是,你们应该好好地走访台湾看看东北角以外其他地方的浪人在干嘛。
7. Q:我不想指名道姓,但在台湾,拥有国际赛事经验的裁判只有两位:怡人跟Larry。我们有这样的资产,但为什么不好好用在比赛上呢? A: 他们不可能受CTSA的控制,他们是真正公正不疴的ISA裁判,同时我敢说台湾还有其他合格的ISA裁判,同时也是真正的surfer却从未受邀评判比赛,包括我在内,这又是另一个问题,为什么不邀请这些人当比赛裁判?
8. Q:为什么CTSA的头头们,六年前除了办零星几场讲习、一场比赛之后外消失了两年,中间没有任何建树,又突然冒出来宣称他们代表台湾的surfer A:讲真的,这些失败的生意人嗅到一点政府的铜臭味跟国际的曝光度,连哄带骗其他人帮他们和政府打通关,完全一派胡言。我对于这当中两位真心想为台湾冲浪圈做事的好心人感到遗憾,但我希望你们能从中发现一道曙光。
9. Q:有什么特别的原因驱使CTSA只在台湾东北角办比赛吗?A:因为他们在台湾其他各处浪点并没有合作的伙伴,除了自己的小圈圈之外没有盟友。要不要办个投票表决看看其他人是否认为他们够资格代表台湾。
10. 10.Q:CTSA认为我代表TORSA,立场偏颇且只是想要找他们麻烦而已 A:我大概在同一个时间点同时成为TORSA及CTSA的会员,我只想为台湾的surfer创造一个好的环境,我以裁判及裁判长的身份协助CTSA几年之后,他们就过河拆桥了,我跟其他希望台湾冲浪圈更好的人一样,只是希望能为台湾surfer创造一个更好的环境。而CTSA却用不公开的方式并自以为专业的订定无意义的规则。
我其实可以继续探究下去,但我很怀疑他们又会生出什么规则来遴选青少年选手代表台湾赴日参赛。冲浪很单纯就是冲浪,这些当权的人订定规则之前必须先了解这个运动的基础。CTSA你们需要敞开心胸让真正有能力想做事的人加入。
以上内容句句属实,全无捏造。既然你们不愿意回答我的题问,我就在此帮你们回答。或是你们要撤销我这迂腐邪会的会籍也行。
People have asked me why I’m so polite to CTSA when making comments or writing my thoughts on face book. There is a simple reason, I was taught to be respectful of authority, follow rules, ask questions, get an answer and then move on. With CTSA, ask question, no answer so WTF, lets get real.
1. Question. Who are CTSA, I pay 500 NT $ to be a member, no tee shirt, no hat, not rights to vote as a member so they took my 500 NT $ for what reason? Answer. To get members name so they can show Government they have the required number of members to be recognised. BULLSHIT.
2. Question. Why don't they answer my questions about CTSA association membership numbers and who are committee members and how the committee member’s are voted into their positions. Answer, I’m just a white foreigner who lives in the South end of Taiwan so like all people who live down this end of island I’m just a piece of sh-t that has no say or understanding of how Taiwan works so I’m ignored. Really, CTSA can’t answer as they have no answer that makes sense without admitting the association is
not following government rules.
3. Question. Who did vote CTSA to represent surfers in International competitions representing Taiwan. Answer. Nobody did except the select a few family members who also select who judges, who surfs and who gets the Government funding.
4. Question. Why do CTSA only invite ISA judges they like or control to judge their contests. Answer. Control, as using 3 untrained and untested so called judge to score all the semi and finals of the last contest, while still being in the contest is a total, WTF. No disrespect to the head judge as the head judge’s role is very clear in any contest.
5. Question. How many of the CTSA judge at the last contest have the ability to judge surfers who surf to another level than the judges them selves. Answer. Very few, just because they take a judge course a few weeks before doesn't make them a judge, or actually even a coach. How can they can score the moves of some of the more skilled surfers, if they have no idea what a real bottom turn is, or an off the lip, or a vertical hack, sorry you have no right to judge them. Not the judges fault it's the
organisers, CTSA who put new recruits in to that bad position. Shame on you MF’s at CTSA for sending new recruits into battle when they have no idea which end to hold the rifle. Just look at what happened in France. Can’t paddle out, bull shit, one foot or ten foot you need to be able to do it, that's real competition, take note of that point selection committee.
6. Question. I have only seen the CTSA inner group of people at one international surf contest, and then they left early and that was six years ago in Hainan when they first approached ISA. How can they ever gain respect in Asia or the world when they are absent from the outside world of surfing. Answer. They have a very basic misconception of how long and how much it takes to become accepted in the world outside that very small area in NE Taiwan where they hide. That even applies in Taiwan, there are
other places in Taiwan, get in the car and explore.
7. Question. I’m sorry to mention names but in Taiwan there are only two judges who take the time to really get experience in competitions outside of Taiwan, Aganus and Larry and I respect their ability. Why are these valuable assets not used as they should be. Answer. They aren’t under the control of CTSA as they are real ISA judge, impartial. I will say there are a few other ISA judge in Taiwan that are real surfers and qualified to judge a contest, but again they are never invited, that includes
me, another question, why ?
8. Question. Why did the ring leaders of CTSA start something six years ago, do nothing positive except a few training courses and a contest once a year then go away from Taiwan for two years and come back to claim they represent Taiwan surfers. Answer. For real, failed business people who smell money from Government and the business potential linked to International exposure, they also to deceive some other people to help them with Government to make a go of things. What a load of shit. I feel sorry
for two well meaning people that just want to help, but I hope they see the light in the future.
9. Question. Is there a reason why CTSA only hold contests at one beach in the North East side of Taiwan. Answer. They have no associations with other surf groups in Taiwan and no friends outside of their small little area. They have no right to say they represent Taiwan surfers, lets hold a vote to see if people think CTSA deserve that right.
10.Question. CTSA say I’m biased and represent TORSA so
I want to cause trouble. Answer. I became a member of
TORSA and CTSA about same time, I just want the best
for Taiwan surfers. I helped CTSA for a few years as judge and head judge then they dropped me, like other well meaning and caring people that also want the best for the young Taiwan surfers. Fu-k CTSA they just are a small group of deluded wannabe long board surf surfers looking for business opportunities.
I could go on, but I wonder what load of shit they will come up with for selecting a Junior team for Taiwan in Japan. Surfing is surfing, before the people in power make rules they should understand the basics themselves. And yes its easy to hide behind people, we all know who pull the strings, five old sad people with no idea what should be done.
You need help CTSA, and you need to open up your closed little group of uninformed individuals.
All based on facts and no names mentioned, no slander, no basis for a law suit, just give some fu-king answers, or will you revoke my membership of your fraudulent association.
作者: p278732001 (candy)   2017-08-08 21:23:00
再成立一个组织
作者: FJHS (wander in an open field)   2017-08-09 00:14:00
泪推
作者: hank37 (Huank)   2017-08-09 01:06:00
+1
作者: a55662489 (a55662489)   2017-08-09 04:26:00
又一个邪会吗@@
作者: wwq   2017-08-09 07:46:00
作者: joeyen0546 (酒焰零伍肆陆)   2017-08-09 08:52:00
https://goo.gl/mPAXgq 同一件事?
作者: BingLing (坏人请别再靠近我)   2017-08-09 08:53:00
作者: uuus20022002 (= =)   2017-08-09 10:27:00
想问IAS和CTAS的差别在哪里?
作者: ManInBlack (阿阙)   2017-08-09 10:59:00
QQ
作者: WWEAR (冲浪我的信仰N ￾ﰩ
CTSA Chinese Taipei surfing associationISA international Surfing Association一个是中华冲浪协会 一个是国际冲浪组织
作者: damper   2017-08-09 11:52:00
虽然不了解但帮推一个
作者: etowl (没日没夜流浪中)   2017-08-10 07:38:00
chinese taipei ski association 问题也大同小异 无违和感
作者: wwq   2017-08-10 07:42:00

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