Steam Is Banning Sex Games With Young-Looking Characters
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These days, anything goes on Steam, but not anything anything. If games are “
illegal, or straight up trolling,” Valve says it’ll send them packing. In
the past, that’s meant low-effort games with titles like Big Dick and MILF,
achievement spam, and certain sex games.
Now, according to some developers, Valve is going after games that feature
themes of “child exploitation,” which it seems to define, at least in part,
as games with sex scenes or nudity where the characters are in high school.
Over the past few weeks, the company has removed the store pages of several
visual novels, including cross-dressing yaoi romance Cross Love, catholic
school adult visual novel Hello Goodbye, “story about the love between
siblings” (yuck) Imolicious, and cat girl game MaoMao Discovery Team. The
developers of these games all claim to have received similar emails stating
that their games could not be released on Steam.
“While we can ship most titles on Steam, we found that this one does feature
themes of child exploitation,” read the email received by Top Hat Studios,
makers of Cross Love. “Because of that, the app has been banned and cannot
be reused.”
There are a couple ties that bind the games in question: 1) Cross Love, Hello
Goodbye, and Imolicious feature school settings, and 2) all four of the
aforementioned games contain adult elements and center around anime-styled
characters who appear young—in some cases uncomfortably so. However, their
developers have taken to protesting the bans on social media, saying that
their games have been misunderstood. They all claim they’ve reached out to
Valve since receiving their bans, only to be met with silence.
Cross Love’s developers say they’ve taken great pains to ensure that their
game demonstrates, on multiple occasions, that its students are of age. This
includes scenes where they peruse 18+ manga and are ID-ed before being
allowed into an adult bookstore.
“These scenes aren’t there to be artificially shoehorned in, and while they
do exist as further proof of characters’ ages (beyond the disclaimer in the
beginning that explicitly states them as being 18), the real reason they’re
there is to further many of the themes in the story,” said developer Top Hat
to Kotaku in a Twitter DM, pointing out that it’s tried to contact Valve
with this information six separate times, to no avail. “A large chunk of the
story is about accepting who you are, being comfortable with yourself, and
altogether similar themes within a type of coming of age-style love story,
which isn’t really seen in most yaoi games.”
“While we can ship most titles on Steam, we found that this one does feature
themes of child exploitation.”
Other games are more questionable. Imolicious’ developer claims there aren’
t “any children” in the game, but it revolves around school girls. When I
pointed out that most school girls are, by definition, children, developer
Yume Creations replied in a DM: “High school students aren’t children, they
are teenager[s].” Most teenagers in high school are still minors, so that
rationale doesn’t really hold water. The developer also noted, however, that
“in [the] case of Imolicious, I added a disclaimer that all characters [are]
over 18 like you can see in most visual novels.”
They’re not wrong: This is a trend among visual novels featuring adult
material—and more broadly among “loli” anime, which tends to feature
suspiciously young-looking women who are said to be over 18. But while some
take these declarations at face value, others view them as obvious (and
creepy) fig leaves.
“Having a disclaimer stating that a drawing is of consensual age or not is a
ridiculous thing to rely upon,” said one user in a Steam forum thread
discussing MaoMao Discovery Team’s legality. “At the end of the day, it is
a fictional drawing that does not have an age. If you think they look too
young, then they are too young. A bit of text saying ‘this person is 20'
changes nothing.”
Which brings us to the heart of the matter: It’s Valve’s store, and what it
says goes. If someone at Valve decides characters look too young, then they’
re too young. Top Hat, however, believes there’s a double standard at play
here, not unlike the one some developers felt they’d fallen victim to before
Valve officially allowed uncensored sex games on Steam. Other games that
feature young-looking characters, school settings, and romantic/sexual
themes, like Nekopara Extra, Sakura Sakura, A Piece Of Wish Upon The Stars,
and Material Girl, are all still on Steam, Top Hat pointed out.
Kotaku reached out to Valve to ask about the rationale behind banning certain
games, but has yet to hear back.
Imolicious developer Yume Creations says it’s given up on trying to get the
game on Steam, opting instead to release an uncensored version on internet
hentai capital Fakku. In a Steam post, MaoMao’s developers made it sound
like they, too, are throwing in the towel. But while Top Hat has put Cross
Love up on other stores like Itch.io and Nutaku, it’s still giving Steam the
old hopefully-at-least-college-age try.
“Steam is a major service, and we had hundreds of players looking forward to
buying the game there upon release,” Top Hat said. “The game had wishlists
in the thousands, and the community group had several hundred people in it.
This is a very large userbase to lose out on, and it hurts us pretty bad. It’
s not world ending, but it is quite the end of the year blow.”
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关键字：Child Exploitation 儿童削剥
所以Cross Love、Hello Goodbye、MaoMao Discovery Team这些游戏才会被删除页面。
儿童削剥呀！不意外就是了，这在美国是逆鳞级的议题。

希望不要升级成有日本风格就是儿童对美国人来说，亚洲人就是未成年

五楼的熟女风格没这个问题

日本不是都是“我看起来很小只，可是我已经满18岁了喔”

哀 怪不得日本很多HG公司都在观望 终究保守才是对的

年纪24岁　外表6岁

valve到底是怎样 疯狂反复横跳耶

因为真的很烦，一下可以一下不行的，审核过了还会被搞。整个就是创作，没有伤害任何人，然后要被处罚，这真的很过分

正确呀，支持说他成年看起来像儿童的本来就有问题

5000岁但外观像10岁精灵的可以吗?

劝你别碰我mirror喔

mirror奶那么大…怎么看也不像

问题大了，应为他们看日式画风全都是儿童色情因

一个“说你太年轻就太年轻，大人快禁他”的概念比起mirror，我更担心Nekopara就是了...

人真的很奇怪 肥宅娶二维老婆我们嘘他快醒 不是真的然后又一堆躲舒适圈整天喷二维 这个不行 那个不行不敢处理真实世界同样发生的议题

终究还是要日本自己搞平台啦 等东澳过去吧 哀

认真在二次元打稻草人还觉得自己很有供献的SJW真虚伪

不太意外就是了

valve:我想赚钱但我不想得罪fbi

正确个屌 火车全部给我干起来

额 本来就不能违反当地法律吧 不过审核过在取消这对开发商很惨就是了

禁这个对防止恋童癖有意义吗，实在很怀疑

一群对二次元角色喊着我老婆的阿宅们对社会是很危险的

儿童色情是绝对大忌，这个肯定没话说

超赞成!! 不过要怎么认定年轻角色 标准为何是重点脸跟发育看起来只有国小 结果年龄写17岁的 这种超该禁恶心恋童癖不要想在那边带风向 赶快去治疗

楼上你怎么看起来这么了解

没吃过猪肉也看过猪走路啊

外表年纪认定标准是什么？罩杯？身高？三次元都有那种30岁看起来想国中生的幼齿脸了

对啦 玩的游戏有萝莉就是变态恋童癖

每次都说儿童色情是欧美的红线 问题是怎样算儿童 都他妈西方臭老脸才不算儿童？ 我16岁去美国参加一个营队 他妈一个英国佬15岁长得像30岁 这样就合法囉？

干脆禁止所有创作有任何犯法行为好了

楼上超酸XD我说spfy

观看有杀人的书视同杀人犯

讲难听一点，只要没成年都可能被那些卫道人士视为儿童.永远都是“大人们”说的算。 *茶*

成年的猫可以吗

赞，这种游走边缘的大多都是粪game

在美国儿少福利是比宪法还不得了的东西 千万惹不得

不要在那边纸上谈兵......讲理论你没有欧美厉害讲那些空谈的东西根本没用，这不是那边的问题点实际上是，欧美有很多‘非常严重’的案子发生过，这迫使他们一定要采取很极端的方式去“做一些事”，这是政治问题各自表述的东西永远都能换方向讲，不要对自己那么有信心就算没有二次元实际受害人也要提出实际科学证据才能开启争论这是欧美的一贯思维，在那边嘴巴论证根本自讨苦吃

steam要做不做都可以，但是不要变来变去

讲得那么厉害就说明一下有什么科学证据表示二次元阿宅

9成吧，打LOL也是反复在杀人阿

会触犯儿少法啊，不然光讲一堆空话又嫌别人空谈。

但是会有人说，儿童色情片的问题是真的有儿童受害，购买、观看都助长儿童受害问题。动漫电玩没有儿童真的受害

你......电脑里拥有相关资料在哪边就是犯法了啊

就自助餐 想捞钱又没不敢审内容 只好转而审角色外观

在网络上索求逻辑是我的错

电玩目前就是没有犯法不是吗？

http://i.imgur.com/nFEjDqh.jpg 巫师3不下架吗？

说真的亚洲人18岁左右样貌像是欧美人未成年 欧美无法体会在这种环境生活的差别

欧美SJW无差别套入就是很有问题了写个18就不是萝 这种满槽点玩法诞生起因于谁心里有数趋严跟本不能解决问题在我看来 把问题推给二次元 跟中世纪把问题推给行为怪异的女巫 像极了 说妳是女巫就是女巫 快烧

这逻辑跟每次有人上街乱开枪就拿GTA出来鞭有差别吗

同样有明确的世俗共识 司法系统 社会偏见 责任推托

这没办法 唯独儿色是肯定要回避的

就跟禁酒令白痴清教徒一样儿色禁止不是随人说 古典时代孪童常见 要不禁修该历史

其实我觉得明明就未成年萝莉脸，但是跟你写30岁那种被禁也是刚好而已

有那个端正视听的心还不如多抓几个人蛇

人蛇有给钱给干 虚拟作品没有 当然要禁止呀(大误

于是问题就兜回了怎么才算 今天管年龄 明天战种族后天禁模仿史莱姆 法外规避会一直在 SJW绝不受损真有个金鱼佬在我面前我也会爆打他一顿但我不会因为规范无差别套用 谁像就打谁吧

社会正义战士(SJW)现在臭的要死了，怎么会没有受损真的想要社会正义的人应该都很想哭吧，招牌被一堆白痴拿

臭归臭，他们又没差。再找下一个target就好。

去路上乱打人，实在是有够可悲

steam也作很多努力了, 总没办法要G胖拿事业当赌注

不少看起来就真的满幼的游戏都真的上18+dlc在steam上了 表示steam原本肯定是没要禁这类总不能真的要G胖拿事业当赌注领导这种抗争XD

儿童色情很多厂商跟平台都自我规制了，没人敢赌会不会就真的要拿事业甚至自己私人资产来赔了...

以后就变画个大人说他心智只有国小讲话罗莉音

楼上，画个大人...萝莉控就不要了啊 XD

MILF MILF MILF MILF MILF MILF MILF不是16岁适婚年龄吗 还有童养媳等熟女系列 古人真会玩孙中山:女童赛高

以后游戏都弄成这样就好https://i.imgur.com/B6omXkA.png反正都要装无码补丁，干脆直接在脸上画皱纹伪装，然后用补丁解掉这样还能靠北吗= =

快笑死哈哈哈哈一堆踩出界线的在那担心硬是要辩, 馁咩凹

讲难听一点，这年代，萝莉控想找门路也不可能去多抄了几个黑帮人蛇比较实在，但政府根本不敢真动

讲真实一点，这世代钱说话，有钱权力阶级高，所有人包含政府都得低头，那你要怎玩都行，真人死斗、买处女玩萝莉都行，但对绝大部分的普通人必须用严格极端的规规章去禁止，去扼杀这种欲望

再说下去等等估计会有人冒出来说"禁个幼女而已 这也能吵"

总归来说，萝莉Ｈ或是杀人游戏多多少少有疯子真的付诸实际行为犯案，但是杀成人比较难还是杀/诱拐小朋友难?小朋友是拿来保护的

本末倒置吧 会诱拐真实女童的还会跑去玩游戏??假道德一堆 这跟游戏使人暴力的看法有什么两样

因为凡事皆有可能，诱拐不玩游戏有，玩游戏虚拟满足不了去诱拐也有可能，您说的打杀游戏后变暴力也有可能只是不能因为个案就说整个群体都是不管恋童or打杀

有人说持有就犯法还真幽默，那开发公司早就被抄掉啦XD

所以欧美就是一边干小女孩小男孩 一边义正严词的限制空想创作日本就是只敢做游戏画漫画打手枪 强暴小孩这种事做不出来 大家都知道喇

订一条线出来对大家都好，我说真的到时被卫道人士来个无限上纲你才痛

持有就犯法有些地方还真的不是开玩笑 宅宅带一堆日漫回去 被海关直接逮捕已经是好多年前的新闻了

所以要变瓦力了吗？

我搜了一下内文中的游戏,除了猫娘那部像国中生体型剩下的都高中生正常人体型阿当然也可能是角色很多我没google到不过要酸罗莉控的建议先去查完再来酸高中生体型已经是正常人体型了,跟恋童癖差很多好吗

社会上一个很简单的逻辑：躲在家里打电动的 整天被追打在路上混帮派的 什么人包括一堆警察都会躲你躲很远几乎可以说为所欲为所以根本不是对/错问题是好不好欺负的问题

楼上讲的不是逻辑而是乱象not cool, bro.

这社会不就乱象称王嘛XD

Bravo!