Fw: [新闻] 16间工作室移除游戏内玩家怒指的间谍软件

楼主: wizardfizban (疯法师)   2018-06-20 06:23:03
16 Studios Removing Alleged Spyware From PC Games After Fan Outcry
https://tinyurl.com/ydxpxddj
In Mario Kart, red shells target your nearest rival and ruthlessly stop them
in their tracks. Marketing company Red Shell, meanwhile, helps video game
companies more accurately target you. This fact has not sat well with some
players who have recently discovered the software in a veritable kartload of
Steam games.
According to Red Shell’s website, their software is meant to help game
companies “measure the effectiveness of their marketing campaigns” by “
tying information from marketing campaigns to in-game play.” Basically, it’
s installed alongside games and tracks information about your devices
(operating system, browser version number, IP address, etc) in order to
ascertain how effective advertisements for that particular game are. The
company swears up and down that it doesn’t collect personal information.
“We don’t collect names, emails, or addresses,” Red Shell says on its
website, noting that games can offer an opt-out to players if developers so
choose. “Our service basically says ‘this computer clicked on a link from
this YouTube video and the same computer played your game.’ We have no
interest in tracking people, just computers for the purposes of attribution.”
The software has been discovered in over 50 games including The Elder Scrolls
Online, Conan Exiles, Hunt: Showdown, and Civilization VI. For the past
couple weeks, a contingent of players have dedicated themselves to weeding it
out, decrying it as “spyware” that many companies failed to disclose.
“Red Shell is a spyware that tracks data of your PC and shares it with 3rd
parties,” Redditor Alexspeed75 wrote last week in a thread that’s became
something of a rallying place for aggrieved players. “On their website they
formulate it all in very harmless language, but the fact is that this is
software from someone I don’t trust and whom I never invited, which is
looking at my data and running on my PC against my will. This should have no
place in a full price PC game, and in no games if it were up to me.”
Since then, players of the aforementioned games and many more have started
irate threads in Steam forums and subreddits. In many cases, they’ve gotten
developers to pledge to remove Red Shell.
“We integrated Red Shell with the goal to track the efficiency of our
marketing campaigns (how many players clicked on our advertisements on social
media platforms and then purchased the game afterwards). There was never any
intention to sell data to third parties,” said the developers of multiplayer
horror game Dead By Daylight, expressing a sentiment similar to many other
developers who’ve removed Red Shell from their games. “That being said, we
have seen the player frustrations expressed about the use of this technology.
Our passionate and dedicated fans are the reason why Dead by Daylight is a
success, especially the ones who have been with us from the beginning. We
have removed Red Shell from Dead by Daylight in the 2.0.0 update.”
As of now, 16 games have either removed Red Shell or have pledged to do so in
the near future, including The Elder Scrolls Online, Conan Exiles, Hunt:
Showdown, Battlerite, Secret World Legends, Total War, and Warhammer:
Vermintide.
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简单来说,有间营销公司 Red Shell 开发的软件功能是:借由资讯化营销活动对玩游戏
的影响来帮助游戏公司量化其营销活动的有效性。
因此,他会包装在游戏程式内一起装进玩家电脑中,用以追踪玩家的电子设备资讯,像是
操作系统、浏览器版本、IP......等,而该公司也宣誓绝不会收集玩家个人资讯。
当然玩家才不相信.....
国外玩家在reddit上的主要讨论串 https://www.reddit.com/user/Alexspeed75
而事实上己经有超过50套游戏被发现装有此软件,包含上古卷轴 online、流亡者科南、
恶灵猎杀:紧要关头、文明帝国6......。
在玩家的愤怒之下,己经有16个游戏工作室承诺己经或不久之后移除这个软件。包含了
上古卷轴 online、流亡者科南、恶灵猎杀:紧要关头、战争仪式、神秘世界传奇、全军
破敌、战锤:末世鼠疫......等。
作者: w520670 (歐德王)   2018-06-20 06:51:00
文明6跟全军QQ 我会不会哪一突然被FBI带走...
作者: TotalBiscuit (CynicalBrit)   2018-06-20 07:01:00
作者: WTF55665566 (来乱的)   2018-06-20 07:40:00
感觉还不止这些游戏吧
作者: tzouandy2818 (Naked Bear)   2018-06-20 07:46:00
“超过50款被发现”不就是不只的意思吗
作者: x94fujo6   2018-06-20 07:49:00
各种软件内埋的也不少 用hosts档掉各种广告/资料收集之后 某知名图片管理软件变成每次开个图要15秒以上...才发现这软件在每次开启时都会回传资料 厂厂
作者: WTF55665566 (来乱的)   2018-06-20 08:07:00
感觉又是一个震撼业界的大丑闻
作者: efreet (Soth)   2018-06-20 08:09:00
业界根本习以为常了吧,未经使用者同意或未告知就伴随着主要软件装进你电脑的东西可不少
作者: WTF55665566 (来乱的)   2018-06-20 08:22:00
对 所以真要检讨起来肯定是地动山摇
作者: pponywong (pony)   2018-06-20 08:24:00
搞不好EULA有写 只是太冗长没人看而已EULA这东西也值得探讨 南方公园也有出一集酸这个
作者: ZMTL (夜风/潇湘 VR板已经开板!)   2018-06-20 08:35:00
说真的,应用程式记录使用者在自己应用程式中的行为数据分析我觉得无可厚非,但还记录其他应用、浏览器的资料...
作者: gmkuo (嗯嗯)   2018-06-20 10:03:00
哇! Shadowverse是闇影诗章?
作者: bbkingck (Twister)   2018-06-20 10:05:00
译文上没看到,真的有追到该游戏外的使用者操作纪录吗?
作者: ATand (ATand)   2018-06-20 10:08:00
觉得EULA应该要把一些重要的独立一个页面出来给使用者确认
作者: efreet (Soth)   2018-06-20 10:10:00
一般EULA都会写说会搜集资料,但不会直接写明是用那个软件,可以去翻2K或肥鲨的版本
作者: seaEPC (没看见,我没看见 >_<)   2018-06-20 10:19:00
@bbkingck,原文第3段写Red shell说:Our service basicallysays'this computer clicked on a link from this YouTubevideo and the same computer played your game.'
作者: sillymon (塑胶袋)   2018-06-20 10:22:00
BZ:
作者: js0431 (嚎冷熊)   2018-06-20 10:57:00
干上古卷轴online
作者: gn01172011 (Mask)   2018-06-20 11:00:00
这个时代怎么可能保护得了自己的个资 防不胜防
作者: miyaiijima (MIYA)   2018-06-20 11:01:00
楼下看谜片网站都被发现了
作者: applewarm   2018-06-20 11:04:00
还好有人挖出来,要不然厂家都嘛装死 消费者在这方面太弱势
作者: cat05joy (CATHER520)   2018-06-20 11:40:00
这年代想完全不回传资料 准备一台没网络的电脑吧
作者: iComeInPeace (战争即和平自由即奴役)   2018-06-20 12:03:00
干 上古OL中招
作者: Jiajun0724 (川崎忍者)   2018-06-20 12:09:00
上古OL 完蛋了
作者: LayerZ (無法如願)   2018-06-20 12:14:00
这东西早就是大家都有装我没装就输了
作者: gn00386614 (EXSA)   2018-06-20 12:23:00
1F被带走前先流放资源阿!
作者: Kenqr (function(){})()   2018-06-20 12:51:00
就是有些人把盗个资当成理所当然 这些厂商才敢这么嚣张
作者: tonyian (巨水瓶)   2018-06-20 13:00:00
未来 steam接轨中国的话,这些都直接送给中国喽,比给厂商还惨
作者: john50710 (孙胖)   2018-06-20 13:03:00
开告了啊
作者: robertcamel (罗伯特)   2018-06-20 13:48:00
还没来得及说 "未看先猜有人会出来说别人都同意盗个资我不签就输了" 就有人出来护航了XD
作者: chunyulai (裙)   2018-06-20 14:16:00
EULA这种东西就是沦为厂商的免责声明啊 随便他们写
作者: wyiwyi (纸片宅)   2018-06-20 14:40:00
游戏删除后这间谍还会在吗0.0
作者: ailio (Ailio)   2018-06-20 14:52:00
其实Steam自己也会收集,只是会问一下是否提供,但私底下..谁知道有没有偷偷收集,往往很多公布的统计数据用户数都会怀疑到底是哪来的
作者: cc9i (正直与善良)   2018-06-20 14:58:00
有说明跟没说明差很多耶
作者: dnek (哪啊哪啊的合气道)   2018-06-20 15:47:00
妈的也太多了吧
作者: millylu0711   2018-06-20 16:05:00
说真的,私底下有没有偷收集你也不知道,声明好看用要完全避免根本不可能,除非你不用网络
作者: yadohime (君莫愁)   2018-06-20 19:28:00
我好像安装游戏的时候有按同意.....
作者: Fairytale929 (肥狸)   2018-06-21 12:14:00
欧洲最近更新了CDPR 如果被爆出来应该会面临巨额罚款 是不是因为这样才移除的

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