[外絮] Nerchio&MarineLorD谈KeSPA Cup @TL

楼主: hc1118 (人˙非)   2016-09-20 20:53:13
Nerchio篇
来源:https://goo.gl/SOIcTw
翻译:hc
Olli: How long did you play for yesterday?
Q:你昨天比了多久?
Nerchio: I started practicing at 9am in the morning because I played a little
bit less in the past 2 weeks, so I needed to catch up. I finished at 2:30am,
so it's about 17 hours, with some breaks in between of course.
A:因为我前两周输得多一点,所以我必须要赶上。从早上9点就开始练习,最后比到凌晨
2点半,大概是17小时吧,当然中间有些休息。
What was your hardest match in the qualifier?
Q:你在资格赛中最艰难的是哪一场?
It's hard to say actually because I didn't have a very good start, losing a
map to both Tomikus and Lambo. ZvZ is hard and scary to play but I managed to
pull through. I guess my hardest match would be against MarineLorD since I
lost that one, but I was already quite tired and sleepy at that point, so it
was far from my best performance.
A:很难说,因为我并没有好的开始,对Tomikus跟Lambo都输了个小分。ZvZ真的很难打,
我试着要度过这个难关。我想我最艰难的一场是对MarineLorD,就是我输的那一场,
我那时真的很累很想睡,所以那场远远不是我的最佳实力。
What is it that makes ZvZ so difficult?
Q:为什么ZvZ很难打?
It starts in the early game where you need to be on top of your build order,
micro and scouting to avoid losing to quick all-ins. There are a lot of
different timings that require you to play a different response at all stages
in the game and pretty much the whole Zerg arsenal is being used in different
ways, so it's really hard to play a standard game.
A:你在一开始时就要很注意开局、微操、侦查等,避免被快速一波。整场比赛有很多不同
的TIMING、虫族有各种部队跟不同的进攻手段,你需要有不同的应对,(ZvZ)你很难比
一个标准的比赛。
Speaking of ZvZ, the new SSL champion, Solar, is attending Kespa Cup too.
Did you see his series against Dark? Did anything stand out to you?
Q:说到ZvZ,新科SSL冠军Solar也会参加Kespa Cup,你有看他跟Dark的冠军赛吗?你觉得
有没有什么特别的?
First of all, it's really hard to learn from watching ZvZ at all because
there are too many things happening at the same time and it's hard to know
what is going on in someone's head when he is playing. Solar played a little
bit unusually I think, with some macro hatches which we don't really see in
ZvZ, but besides that it was a very standard match. Some all-ins, some roach
vs roach, some mutas, some ravager/ling timings. It's very typical ZvZ,
that's why it's hard to play. I noticed that Dark was afraid of playing the
lategame and tried ending games with midgame timings.
A:首先,看ZvZ的比赛很难学到什么,因为有太多事情同时发生,你很难知道选手比赛时
到底在想什么。Solar打得比较有变化,有些运营是我们在ZvZ看不到的,但除此之外没
什么不同的,有大招、有蟑螂对阵、有飞螳、有火蟑螂跟狗的一波。这些都是典型的ZvZ
当中会出现的,这就是为什么我觉得很难打的原因。我有注意到Dark在中盘时就会试着
进攻来结束比赛,好像害怕比赛进到后期。
Since we're talking about Korean players now: you're always in LR threads on
TeamLiquid, commenting on Korean games, and you always seem very confident
against them. Why is that?
Q:既然我们谈到韩国选手,你常常在TL论坛上评论韩国比赛,而且你似乎对上他们还是很
有自信,为什么?
I don't seem confident against them, I was only saying Zergs in KR seemed
really poor for 6 months and they didn't have a clue how to play ZvT
especially. They were basically playing the same builds and died to the most
standard build in ZvT, which is the double medivac timing. Later they figured
it out a little bit, but Europe was playing those builds 2 months earlier.
Also we need to counterbalance TL Forums' bias towards Koreans.
A:不是这样,我只是在说KR区的虫族在过去6个月实在是太弱了,特别是他们对人族没有
什么办法。他们总是死在两船兵的那个战术。他们后来有点头绪,但我们欧洲早了他
们两个月。另外我也是想平衡TL论坛上一面倒向韩国的偏见。
I found one of your posts yesterday, saying it would be easy to beat Maru.
Would it be?
Q:我发现你昨天说打败Maru很容易,真的吗?
(译注:https://goo.gl/oqvpgO)
Probably not, but it's more fun if you give some strong opinions from time to
time.
A:也许不是,但不时地给出强烈的观点比较有趣。
(译注Nerchio在咆啸杯真的打败Maru)
You're not the first to say that foreigners are figuring the game out a bit
faster. Solar said it recently as well, Dear used one of Harstem's builds in
GSL. Do you think the foreign 'metagame' is ahead now as well in some cases?
And if so, which?
Q:你不是第一个说非韩选手对比赛的理解比较快的人,Solar最近也这么说,Dear在GSL
上用了Harstem的战术,你认为非韩选手在运营的理解,某些方面是不是比韩国选手好
?如果是的话,是哪些?
I can speak only for myself here, but I am playing much more than I did in
Heart of the Swarm. Similarly to Wings of Liberty I believe I can compete
with Koreans and be confident with my own way of playing the game instead of
copying their builds. I don't know if we are figuring the game out faster
than Koreans, but I am pretty sure that they are not the only ones that know
how to play Starcraft 2, as some people on the TL forums suggest. In terms of
Zergs, I think we are slowly moving towards the same metagame, but we can see
that the Zerg match-ups still play out differently.
A:我只能代表我自己,我可以说我比虫心进步的多。像自由之翼(那时)一样,我相信我
可以跟韩国选手竞争,我有自信用自己的战术来比赛而不是复制他们的方式。我不知
道我们是不是比韩国选手有更快地理解,但我很确定他们不是像论坛上某些人说的那
样,是唯一了解要如何玩SC2的人。以虫族来说,我想我们慢慢的有在趋向同一个套路
,但虫族的比赛还是有很多变化的。
Kespa Cup is the first Global Event of the year. Should there be more of them?
Q:Kespa Cup是今年第一个所有选手都能参加的比赛,这种比赛应该要多一些吗?
I wouldn't mind if there were more of them of course, but I was always saying
that foreigners need more room to improve which is now provided through the
WCS system. I think the most important step was giving us 3 big WCS
tournaments that give quite a bit of money, and if the rest of Dreamhacks and
IEMs were Global Events instead, it would be fine too. I would probably be
continuing my studies instead if there wasn't any support for the foreign
scene.
A:如果有更多这样的比赛,我当然不会介意,但我总是说,在现存的WCS系统下,非韩选手
需要更多的发挥空间。让我们比的3场WCS大赛有更多的钱,是我认为最重要的发展,如
果其他的比赛像是Dreamhacks或是IEM是全球性的赛事,那也没有关系。如果没有任何支
援,我可能就会继续我的学业(而不是像现在这样)。
Looking at the final player list for Kespa Cup, it includes 3 of the Korean
champions, as well as other high profile players. Is there anyone you would
like to play against, or anyone you'd like to avoid?
Q:参加Kespa Cup的名单中,有(今年)三个韩国比赛冠军(译注:Zest、Byun、Solar),也
有其他好手,有没有哪位你想遇到或想避开的?
I would probably like to avoid playing against Neeb because he is amazing. I
don't really mind the rest. I think all my match-ups are similar in skill
level at the moment, so it's hard to say who I would like to play against.
A:因为Neeb很惊人,我不想对上他,其他的我不太在乎,我想我现在(对三族)的对抗实
力都差不多,很难说我想要对上谁。
Who wins the event?
Q:谁会夺冠?
Hopefully it's me, but I don't have that many expectations. I wouldn't be
surprised if it was a Protoss player like Zest or Stats. To be honest I can't
see TRUE or any other Zerg except me winning this tournament.
A:最好是我,但我不会有这样多余的期待。如果是像Zest或Stats这样的神族夺冠,我不
意外。老实说,除了我之外的虫族,就算是TRUE,都没有可能赢得冠军。
Is Zerg really that bad?
Q:虫族真的那么糟?
I know Solar just won a tournament but I feel like bracket luck is a big
contribution to a lot of championships as well. Overall I don't consider
those Zerg players capable of consistent tournament wins.
A:我知道Solar刚夺冠,但我觉得那跟好签也有很大的关系。总而言之,我不认为那些虫
族有能力持续地在比赛中获胜。
That’s a good note to end on. Any shoutouts or special mentions you want to
give us?
Q:这是一个好结尾,还有其他特别想说的吗?
Thanks to my team Euronics Gaming for supporting me this year and thanks to
Red Bull for believing in my championship potential.
A:谢谢我的队伍Euronics Gaming今年给我的支持,也谢谢Red Bull相信我有夺冠的潜力。
(译注:Red Bull有赞助他)
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MarineLorD篇
来源:https://goo.gl/rP3bdp
翻译:http://bbs.niuyou5.com/thread-2291197-1-2.html
TL:恭喜!你有预计过自己会以第一的身份杀出预选赛吗?
MarineLorD:靴靴。老实说我一开始觉得自己机会渺茫。之前我认为我的TvP和TvT都强的
一比,但是对于Snute、Nerchio这几个欧洲最强的虫族有点虚。所以说我完全没有想
过能得到这个成绩。
TL:看起来Nerchio是你最难对付的对手了?你认为是什么让他显得难以击败?
MarineLorD:我又很多难对付的对手,我和SortOf打了一场艰难的比赛。Bunny看起来也
很吓人,这哥们几乎一年都没怎么联系但他把ShoWTimE给干了,所以我虚的一比。和
PtitDrogo打我很有信心,但实际情况却并不理想,恩教士imba你懂的。恩,当然,
Nerchio确实是一个很强的选手。和他打的游戏体验非常糟糕,毫无乐趣。比如说,
在冰冻神殿/银河天堂路上,人族三兵营死神的概率非常高。大多数虫族都应当避免
一直裸双开,尤其是在这两幅地图上。但是Nerchio两次都选择裸双,而在银河天堂
路上他偷成了但是在冰冻神殿上遭中了。我觉得他今年的开局非常的随性,比之前的
任何时候都要,作为一个职业选手而言这还真令人失望。在常规运营地图上我觉得我
和Nerchio五五开,如果地图对虫族有利那么他会取得胜利,如果对人族有利那么就是
我赢下比赛。
TL:你认为游戏中这些随机的一面会更好的帮助你对抗韩国选手还是限制你的发挥?
MarineLorD:那要看发生在什么对抗中,而且随机性总是偏向我所以我毫无疑问是欢迎的
。不过我觉得这些顶级韩国选手并不会给我利用运气的机会,他们会用一个稳当并且
吃一点亏的开局来**我利用运气的方法,尤其是在TvZ和TvP中。最好的剧本是我被分
到一个虫族小组中,我就能使出一些在正式比赛中没有出现过的招式。韩国选手训练
量是我的20倍还要多,在一场公平的运营中我不可能有机会,因为我想我确实是实力
不如人。在我看来ZvT这个对抗虫族比人族要好打很多,所以说你把这两个结论合到
一起就能发现我在一场正常对抗中对上一个世界顶级虫族的胜率其实也不高。同时我
也希望能够回避人族,每次我从欧洲来到韩国,我的TvT练习胜率就会从80%~90%跌到
20~30%。
TL:说到去韩国,通过预选得到去韩国参加线下比赛的资格对你来说有什么特别吗?或者
说你会像对待其他任何比赛一样对待它?
MarineLorD:对于同级别的奖金池来说,比赛的层级要高出太多,所以比赛真会很艰难。
我想我会乐于观看我最喜欢的选手在我旁边或是对面进行比赛,我也确信那几天的比
赛会让我在WESG的比赛中有更好的表现。我今年在竞技层面只有一个目标,就是通过
预选参加WESG今年的正赛,考虑到这个比赛会在新的游戏版本上进行,我想我取得成
绩的可能要比平时高上不少,就像在国家杯上发生的那样。
TL:K杯另外三名人族选手ByuN、Maru、TY,你最希望和谁进行练习?
MarineLorD:在现在这个版本,这个问题很难回答。Maru在SPL外表现都很糟糕,但是他
是神,我很难对他评价,我想要更多了解他的TvZ。ByuN是三位选手中最强的,不过
他会进行网络直播,参加任何一个可能的线上赛事,所以我想我对他已经有了足够的
了解。TY是个怪家伙,有时我喜欢也很适合他的打法,有时他会玩一些我根本无法适
应的打法,我想经过周密的思考我还是会选择Maru。
TL:你对于今年全球赛事的数量有什么看法,你希望有更多和韩国选手对抗的机会吗?
MarineLorD:和往常一样,暴雪许诺会给我们一些全球赛事,最终却只有在韩国的这一
个,当然,我对此一点都不感到惊讶。恩,是的,我很希望能够看到每年有两到三
个非韩对抗韩国选手的大赛事。
TL:Nerchio在咆哮杯干掉了ByuN,你认为他有机会赢下K杯么?你心目中的夺冠热门是谁

MarineLorD:我想Nerchio打vT确实很有实力,尤其是当你对他的ZvT的强大没有认识的时
候。他对于常规开局都能占到优势,但是他不侦查,所以你如果做一些奇葩的事情他
可能很容易就倒了,如果你常规打他就会占到便宜然后平推你,不论你的ID是
MarineLorD还是ByuN都没有影响。我很难下判断,我觉得近两个月来神族都不再像它
过去三年那样OP,所以我想所有的顶级选手都有机会,我看好herO、Stats、Solar和
ByuN。
TL:对你而言,成为首个赢下韩国比赛的非韩选手的荣耀以及从WESG上拿到200,000美元
,哪个更加重要?
MarineLorD:我去K杯能换一个韩国人是一个,说实话我从没想过能夺冠。如果WESG确定
是在新版本上进行,我会想准备国家杯一样准备它,尽我一切努力把奖杯带会家。
TL:很棒的宣言,我们期待它能成真!感谢你腾出时间和我们聊这些。在我们结束采访前
,你有什么要致谢和赞美的吗?
MarineLorD:谢谢你采访我。赞美千禧年战队以及我赞助商罗技、橘子以及外星人。我会
尽我所能去调戏那些韩国选手,期待他们在比赛结束后都变成玩梗狂魔吧。
作者: aegis43210 (宇宙)   2016-09-20 21:41:00
Nerchio和MVP在IEM上的对决,现在还是记忆犹新
作者: qoo74119 (qoo)   2016-09-21 02:01:00
韩T的两船兵,不是泥鳅所想的那么简单。
作者: gargoyles ('''''')   2016-09-21 17:34:00
波兰跳跳正常发挥

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