来源:https://youtu.be/Y2b0MWGwK_U
前面有人先贴了,所以我就补充个数据整理
顺便烤个三分熟的肉
GN的嘴砲一直都很好笑,火力又猛,这次也不例外
先上数据
https://i.imgur.com/KnSbvdM.png
0代表在误差范围内,根本没差
控制4K游戏材质加载错误应该就是爆VRAM了
以下是一些GN嘴砲的内容
全靠个人英听+自己翻译
翻完才想到干嘛不丢给chatGPT
但已经做了就算了XD
有附上对应的影片章节起始时间
想听的人再用章节时间标大略找一下
★0:00
2016 called and it wants its resolution back, which is apparently 1080p.
Nvidia, a company that previously paid influencers to make videos about 8K
gaming on 3090 cards, is now marketing its new 400 dollar RTX 4060 [Ti] for
1080p. Great! The RTX 4060 Ti 8 GB is one of the worst GPU launches from
Nvidia that we've ever covered, and we don't want to waste anyone's time
here. So, here's how it scales: It's anywhere from negatively scaled against
the 3060 Ti, or effectively equal once you sort of normalize for error, which
is a really bad place to be, up to maybe 19 or 20% at the very best. And that
is scaling the range of 1080p to 4K. There's a reason Nvidia wants to focus
on 1080p here. We tested all the games that we usually test at 1080, 1440,
and 4K, and as the resolution increases, the performance falls of a cliff and
plummets into oblivion.
2016年在呼喊着它想要要回自己的分辨率aka 1080p
NV这公司之前还花钱请名人(指LTT等人)帮它的8K游戏卡3090打广告
现在却用1080p作为4060Ti的行销标语
4060Ti 8G是我们评测过NV发表的最烂显卡之一
帮大家省点时间:对比3060Ti,从1080p到4K,它基本打平,最多赢19~20%
老黄要大家专注于1080p不是没有原因的
随着游戏分辨率往4K升高,4060Ti的效能直接崩落到虚无幻境
★2:21
Resolution was once the thing that drove sales of the high end. In order to
push high-end, say, 1080 Ti or 20 series sales, the move was towards not just
RT at the time, which wasn't established yet, but rather 4K gaming when
rasterized and that's especially true for something like the 1080 Ti. But as
RT has pushed into the market, and more appropriately, as game developers have
become lacks in optimization for some of the titles that are coming out
today, the resolution argument has fallen off; and instead the focus shifts to
anything else that looks more favorable. That is no longer Nvidia's focus,
and that's fine, but it still has to scale. It's okay for the technological
focus to shift to some other graphics technology that's more relevant or more
interesting or whatever. But it needs to be defended sensibly. And the 3060
Ti equating the 4060 Ti in some of the scenarios, or the two having barely
enough of a gap to justify anything more than overclocking your 3060 Ti,
that's the problem. And AV1 and DLSS3 are basically the only things that prop
up the 40 series 60 SKU as being even the new generation.
游戏分辨率以往是推销1080Ti或20系高端卡的卖点
尤其是光追技术还不存在的时候
4K光栅化效能是高端卡的卖点
但随着光追问世,加上更多的是游戏开发者的破优化
技术力的卖点从分辨率转向其他方面
老黄的焦点不再是分辨率,这本身没问题
但NV还是要有所进步
如果你科技的焦点转向其他更有用或更有趣的画质技术(指光追、DLSS)
这当然OK,但仍需要能说服别人你这样做是合理的
4060Ti只打平、或提升到只比超频后的3060Ti再强一点的程度,是个大问题
AV1编码跟DLSS3是唯二让4060系看起来像新世代产品的东西
★7:12
You actually couldn't get this much generation to generation consistency if
you tried. Nvidia's performance here is phenomenal, very impressive. They
were able to flat line a card from 60 to 60, and show an improvement that
basically amounts to noise. You could overclock a card and get 8%. Even
another 8GB of vram can't save this GPU. Its impotence is insurmountable
from simply vram; it needs more than that.
你只要做任何一点努力
结果都不会是毫无增长的跨代效能
老黄你真的表现得太屌了,屌炸天
NV你们居然能让跨代60系效能提升值趋近于测量误差
你拿张卡,超个频也能提升8%
就算之后出16GB版本也救不了这显卡
这张卡的烂,只靠加大VRAM是救不回来的
★10:10
(这我就不放原文了)
4K就是车祸现场(train wreck)
Intel Skylake+++ 再现
★11:21
We're at waste of sand levels of bad, and rapidly descending. Soon, it will
be just a waste of molecules.
这是浪费沙子等级的烂,而且还会继续更烂
不久之后就会变成浪费分子的烂
★14:49
Maybe that's the trick to all of this: The scaling here suggests that if we
just drop the resolution to 360p, maybe 144p, it might be in territory where
we see reasonable generational gains. But right now this truly is reliving
Haswell into Skylake. And if you were there, your know how boring that was,
until Intel had a competitor again. It's the newest high-end 144p gaming
card. Get your Quake and Unreal tournaments ready, here we go.
随着分辨率降低,效能会上升这点
或许就是NV想玩的把戏:
这趋势告诉我们如果把分辨率调到360或144p
4060Ti就可能有显著跨代进步
(这活像是Haswell到Skylake的年代
如果你体验过那年代你就知道每年都超无聊
直到i皇重新遇到竞争者)
4060Ti是最新的高阶144p显卡,快准备好你的Quake跟浴血战场
(这段有够呛www)
★15:47
Intel Arc has been below this price class alone for months now and even its
A750, a card now sub-300 dollars, is within 30% of the 4060 Ti. Nvidia is
contributing to one of the best marketing campaigns that Intel could hope
for. After the melting X3D CPUs and this disastrous launch, all Intel has to
do is stay quiet, and its products will sell themselves.
i皇Arc是低于4060Ti价位带的少数选择
A750这张比300镁还便宜的卡都能打到4060Ti 30%以内的差距
NV根本是在帮Intel做最好的宣传
经历烧熔X3D跟4060Ti烂到笑的发布之后
i皇只要不出声,他的产品就能自己卖的动
(听到这里时我直接笑死)
★29:34
DLSS3, while available on the 4060 Ti, is not sufficient to justify its
existence in this capacity. It is a waste of sand.
DLSS3不足以替4060Ti的存在辩护
这张卡就是在浪费沙子
(影片另一处也提到不是每个游戏都支援DLSS3,更不是每个人都想开启这功能)
心得:
1080p小赢3060Ti
分辨率往上就不行了
硬件规格就半残
还嘴欠摩尔已死 订这白痴死人价格
官方数据靠DLSS3撑场面
而且对照30系只有DLSS2根本无法公正比较
老黄真的是过太爽
i A你们两个加油好吗