[情报] Zen的新八卦

楼主: KotoriCute (Lovelive!)   2016-11-10 12:20:30
Zen的新八卦,好消息坏消息都有,信不信随人
http://carbonite.co.za/f20/amd-zen-141214/
Apologies if there's another thread about AMD's upcoming CPU architecture and
of course desktop CPUs, if there is, delete or perhaps merge this info.
This is the current state of the retail CPUs, which have been improving by
the month.
There are some errata issues present in the current testing samples, similar
in a way to the TLB bug of the Phenom. The workaround right now is done via
the BIOS. The workaround however, strips around 30 ~ 40% of the CPU
performance.
Zen的测试版有类似当初飞龙的TLB Bug,AMD已经有解决方案。但目前解决的方案会让Zen
的性能表现下降30%~40%
The CPUs are well behind schedule and every day there's real progress and bug
fixing being done. Unlike with INTEL's E0 CPUs which make it to the wild that
are almost completely final silicon. AMD's samples will continue to get bug
fixes right up until retail spec sampling to partners.
Zen目前进度落后中
In August Clock speeds were 3.8GHz, right now 4.2GHz overclocking is
possible, with LN2 5GHz is doable. Again this will change of course, but it
is just the current silicon that is behaving like this.
8月时Zen只能上3.8Ghz 目前Zen可以超上4.2Ghz了。如果用液态氮应该能上5Ghz,但要是
体质好的芯片
AM4/ZEN uses an SOC design, that means even CMOS/BIOS configuration is on
package (not necessarily on silicon, I can't confirm this) so it is possible
to clear the "BIOS" and still have old value applied 30 minutes later. How
this will be addressed remains to be seen. Perhaps it won't be the same
scenario for final silicon
Operating voltages (nominal) are 1.3v and all the way up to 1.5v should be
fine it seems for AIO cooling. Frequency scaling isn't a strong point but
again that may have everything to do with the process at this point rather
than an inherent design limitation.
Performance is particularly strong at this point vs. INTEL's latest
offerings. Single thread performance is matching Haswell-E and of course
multi-threading performance as well. Tests that are memory bandwidth
dependent may go to the INTEL platform simply as a result of having more
memory channels, but I can't confirm that right now and have no info on that.
The important thing here is that the 16Thread/8-Core CPU is minimum 5960X
performance if not better actually. (Based on Cinebench R15) with the error
fix disabled.
Zen单核表现和多核表现都和 Haswwll-E差不多 8c16t表现不输给5960X (Cinebench
R15) 前提是bug要除完
Can't speak to how well the IMC is working as current samples are locked to
low DRAM frequencies (2133MHz and lower) and of course this has an impact on
performance.
As stated in the beginning, every week is progress and AMD is working at an
unprecedented rate to get these ready by March.
3月.....
You're unlikely to see any high end boards for the CPUs prior to launch or at
launch, simply because no vendors can commit to too much right now as plenty
is changing at a rapid rate.
作者: willieyuwei4 (寻‧梦)   2016-11-10 12:34:00
下降40%的Zen应该跟推土机差不多吧 送测那种烙赛CPU有什么意义唉只想期待7nm的Zen+ APU了 希望能塞到16CU以上14nm就要塞12CU了,7nm能塞16CU应该很正常吧
作者: DANTEINFERNO (DANTE)   2016-11-10 12:46:00
所以我还可以继续玩波段不用太早抱着股票的意思
作者: c52chungyuny (PiPiDa)   2016-11-10 13:14:00
说个笑话: 重返荣耀 (来人,上巴拉松AMD都不敢再提他们精简其他部门多少人去救CPU了
作者: speedshuffle (咻~)   2016-11-10 13:26:00
这ZEN新闻能不能禁PO直到真的上市AMD在这里洗版这样没有违反板归吗?
作者: a32165498791 (sio)   2016-11-10 13:29:00
举越高,摔越重。先看到再说
作者: c52chungyuny (PiPiDa)   2016-11-10 13:37:00
一堆人以为AMD每天来带风向干嘛 炒股公司听过没不带风向股价烙赛连肥虫都胎死腹中逢低进场高价杀出 不久后一定又有一篇Zen横扫战场文还没啊 快崩溃了
作者: jimmyyang207 (书玮吉米)   2016-11-10 22:30:00
这篇讲的有部份是对的 呵

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