[情报] Pablo Torre爆料快艇避税争议

楼主: gaiaesque (請不要叫偶解釋偶der暱稱)   2026-08-08 22:40:42
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内容:
"I think there's a very real chance that Steve Ballmer emerges relatively
unscathed."
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@PabloTorre on the possible fallout from the Kawhi Leonard situation.
Dan Patrick:Any chance Steve Ballmer is in jeopardy of losing the Clippers,
being able to own them?
Steve Ballmer 有任何失去快艇队经营权、无法继续拥有球队 Clippers 的风险吗?
Pablo Torre:I think the question is an Adam Silver question, right? And this
is what's so interesting.
我想这个问题关键在于 Adam Silver,对吧?这也是最有趣的地方。
Adam Silver is not his mentor, David Stern. Adam Silver is actually the guy
who welcomed Steve Ballmer in, in replacement of Donald Sterling, and was
hailed as this almost Aristotelian, brilliant, progressive leader in
comparison to all the other commissioners, Roger Goodell, namely, at that
time.
Adam Silver 并不像他的导师 David Stern。Adam Silver 实际上是在接替 Donald
Sterling 时亲自欢迎 Steve Ballmer 加入的人,当时他还被赞誉为与其他联盟主席(特
别是当时的 Roger Goodell)相比,几乎是一位具有亚里斯多德哲学智慧、卓越且前卫进
步的领导者。
And so now he is bookending, perhaps, his tenure with the same guy being an
even bigger problem, a complicated problem.
而现在,他可能要在他任期的尾声,面对当年同一个人变成一个更大、更棘手的难题。
And so if you're Adam Silver, and in 2019 when you cleared the Clippers and
Steve Ballmer of cap circumvention after investigating the Raptors' claims
and the Lakers' claims...
所以如果你是 Adam Silver,且在 2019 年调查了暴龙队与湖人队的指控后,宣告快艇队
和 Steve Ballmer 并未违反薪资上限规定……
...what you have done, by the way, on the record, is say salary cap
circumvention is the cardinal rule of the NBA.
顺带一提,你在公开纪录上所做的是宣称“规避薪资上限是违反 NBA 的首要核心铁律”

And I think underpinning all of this then, the moment we're in with sports
gambling, as the NBA balances a gambling scandal and investigation that we've
been covering on the show as well...
我想在这背后支撑著一切的,包含我们现在所处的体育运彩时代——因为 NBA 目前也在
权衡我们节目一直在报导的博彩丑闻与调查……
...when they're balancing all of the other cap circumvention theories out
there—Gary Trent Jr. just being the latest hypothesis someone has—is the
question of whether the rules matter.
……当他们在权衡外界所有其他规避薪资上限的假说时(Gary Trent Jr. 只是最新被大
家推测的一个例子),核心问题就在于:这些规则到底还算不算数?
And if you break the rules, as have been alleged by multiple episodes here of
my show and now elsewhere, the question is, how do you possibly make it so
that the cardinal rule is actually treated like it?
而如果你违反了规则(正如我节目多集内容以及现在其他媒体所指控的),问题是:你到
底要如何才能让这条“核心铁律”真正被当作铁律来对待?
And so by any standard of fake NBA law—because these are all fake laws,
these are all collectively bargained rules that you gotta enforce—I think
everything should be on the table.
因此,以“假性 NBA 法律”的任何标准来看——因为这些都不是真正的法律,这些只是
你们必须执行的劳资集体协议规则——我认为所有惩罚选项都应该放在谈判桌上讨论。
Realistically, in terms of the money, and if you follow it, I think there's a
very real chance that Steve Ballmer emerges relatively unscathed, which is
kind of insane to me, of course.
但现实点来说,从资金的角度来看,如果你顺着金钱轨迹追查下去,我认为 Steve
Ballmer 很有可能最终毫发无伤地过关,这对我来说当然有点不可思议。
https://i.urusai.cc/ZuaMD.mp4
心得
DAJ 2015也被Lexus提供赞助
当时Ballmer就被罚了25万镁
惯犯又如何
人家NBA大老板呢
你一个小小阿银能干嘛呢?
让你罚个50 100万
我避税省下来的更多呢
让你罚啊
作者: pagenotfound (404 not found)   2026-08-08 22:47:00
查无不法,下一位
作者: Hohenzollern   2026-08-08 23:06:00
联盟官方不敢得罪大球队老板 可以专门处罚球员 被抓到合约暗盘球员禁赛二年+现行合约作废 只要让球员不敢拿暗盘合约 自然可以有效解决问题甚至球员累积年资归零重新计算 球星更不可能冒着风险多拿暗盘的利益一定的啊 球队老板若是Savor这种 Silver早就惩处
作者: RandyOrlando (兰迪)   2026-08-08 23:17:00
要效仿也要有快艇老板的等级阿
作者: Hohenzollern   2026-08-08 23:20:00
在场上打球的是球员 官方不敢开罚球队老板 那就专门规定惩罚球员也行
作者: siegfriedlin (齐格飞)   2026-08-08 23:23:00
认真问一下当年如果不额外给钱挖得到可爱吗就只有帐面上的合约
作者: Hohenzollern   2026-08-08 23:25:00
2019暑假 可爱一定会和大城市球队签约即使没给暗盘 可爱很可能还是落脚快艇他应该不会想去湖人屈居老詹之下
作者: pagenotfound (404 not found)   2026-08-09 00:24:00
在Ballmer没有辞去NBA审计委员会主席之前,我都认为这是雷声大雨声小
作者: airash800513 (苍茫)   2026-08-09 03:39:00
阿银现在遇到的困难我是觉得,证据不够有力,可爱有拿不合理的种树合约是事实好了,但最难举证的还是这是快艇给的,阿银终止现有合约的话,球员工会一定会站出来反抗,然后还会面临场外诉讼,我是感觉阿银法律战会打输可爱,导致这5000万变联盟出,球赛长期被禁赛也会被球员工会出来申诉的,感觉只能在2029新劳资协议,加强补丁了
作者: Hohenzollern   2026-08-09 09:19:00
Ballmer有带领一些球队老板投资赚钱 所以支持他很正常
作者: siegfriedlin (齐格飞)   2026-08-09 09:39:00
现在是真的还在调查还是在乔?

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