Re: [花边] Draymond Green回应LBJ戒指文化的看法

楼主: pujos (lks)   2025-06-21 16:18:05
这问题最好的例子
就勇士前队友Kevin Durant啊
他那两冠
被酸报腿、搭便车、格林公式闭环
能有多难听就有多难听
但是当一要排历史排名时
硬是因为有那两冠
基本就能排在10~15名
不会因为没有戒指
被踢到后面25~40名去
跟飞天猪、马龙、老史、Nash坐同桌
而这些没有戒指的“伟大”球员
随着时间过去,人数越来越多
还会慢慢被往后踢勒
伟大是形容词没办法排序的
但戒指有一颗就是有一颗
有两颗就是有两颗
6>4...ok???
戒指重不重要
哪个球员心里不清楚
都跟明镜一样好吗...
※ 引述《kakala99 (Fernando Torres #9)》之铭言:
: Green and his podcast co-host Baron Davis discussed James' comments on the
: latest episode of "The Draymond Green Show with Baron Davis," where Davis
: initially said he "definitely" agrees with James.
: And while Green does as well, he shared a more thought-out response with a
: big-picture perspective.
: 在最新一集《The Draymond Green Show with Baron Davis》播客中,Green与共同主持
: 人Baron Davis讨论了James的这番话,Davis先表示,他“绝对”认同James的看法。
: Green虽然也表示赞同,但他补充了一段更深层视角的观点:
: "I think ring culture took a big turn and came into play in large part due to
: the success of the Golden State Warriors. What Bron was saying is that you
: get guys like Stephen A. [Smith], and to me it felt like Stephen A. is
: someone who talks a lot about rings, and you don't know what it takes to win
: a ring because you've never won a ring. You don't understand because you've
: never gone through it. And because you don't know how hard it is because
: you've never gone through it, then you start using it to lessen the greatness
: of some of the greats.
: “我认为所谓的‘戒指文化’之所以出现并成为主流,在很大程度上与金州勇士的成功有
: 关。LeBron想表达的是,你会看到像Stephen A. Smith这样的媒体人整天把总冠军戒指挂
: 在嘴边,他们常以戒指来衡量球员价值,但他们根本不知道赢得一枚冠军戒有多难,因为
: 他们从来没有亲身经历过,正因为你不清楚这有多艰难,你就会开始用戒指来贬低某些伟
: 大球员的成就。”
: "Is having a ring important? Of course. Does it add to legacies? Does it
: stamp legacies? Absolutely. I'm not going to sit here and act like having a
: ring or rings doesn't matter. It does matter. But it doesn't make [Charles]
: Barkley less great than he was. It doesn't make Allen Iverson less great. I
: think when people use it, they use it to dim the greatness, dim the light on
: guys. And that's what I felt like Bron was getting at." To Green's point,
: both Barkley and Iverson are Naismith Basketball Hall of Famers, 11-time NBA
: All-Stars and one-time league MVPs.
: “冠军戒重要吗?当然重要。它能为传奇生涯加分吗?能巩固历史地位吗?毫无疑问绝对
: 能,我不会坐在这里装作戒指不重要的样子,但这不代表Barkley就不够伟大,也不代表
: Allen Iverson的伟大会因此减少。我觉得有些人用戒指去贬低那些未曾夺冠球星的成就
: ,而这正是我觉得LeBron想表达的重点。”
: In more recent times, players such as James Harden, Russell Westbrook and
作者: Barbarian123 (空白)   2025-06-21 17:46:00
姆斯整天4>6 是当5冠TD Kobe 不存在喔
作者: roger2623900 (whitecrow)   2025-06-21 18:04:00
KD没去勇士 他的评价大概就跟哈登差不多 顶多高一点点而已 要知道哈登MVP share还比他高 只是没冠而已姆斯比TD更全能 但TD的功能性很强
作者: Andrew199999   2025-06-21 18:30:00
一两代人就忘记了?史上最强进攻机器这么简单就忘了?哈哈哈哈哈
作者: alittleghost (littleghost)   2025-06-21 18:31:00
历史地位小AI >枪西
作者: RandyOrlando (兰迪)   2025-06-21 18:37:00
KD两个FMVP还是货真价实啊
作者: siegfriedlin (齐格飞)   2025-06-21 20:42:00
作者: zzz753951753 (Ali)   2025-06-21 21:59:00
打20年只有四冠的在争山羊就是笑话

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