[讨论] 2022平价后卫对决奢华后卫

楼主: ushxela (cp)   2022-07-03 10:57:49
最近看到Brunson签大约
好奇他的合约到底有没有溢价
所以试着用PER当作标准
找跟他表现相近的人的薪水都落在哪个区间
来衡量他到底值不值得这个价钱
也顺便比较所有后卫的价钱
资料说明:
1. 数据来源:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/players.html
2. 球员选择:
1) 例行赛场均12分钟以上
2) 例行赛得分超过10分
3. 比较的数据:PER
根据PER分成
主要轮替:[10,15)
主力:[15,20)
主将:>20
1. 例行赛PER [10, 15)
这个区间符合条件的人有49个
薪水的中位数是8.8M
第三个四分位是13M
这蛮符合我们对主要轮替价钱的印象
里面超过2000万的有三人Buddy Hield、Tim Hardaway Jr.、Gary Harris
1) Buddy Hield现在在溜马,三分球不错
但不是核心又领2000万up的薪水,多少有点溢价
2月的时候还传出溜马要交易Buddy Hield
https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1644421044.A.4FC.html
2) Tim Hardaway Jr.这季在躺
小牛在没他的情况下,进了季后赛打到西决
Brunson签约尼克后,他还是小牛主力的后卫之一
3) Gary Harris 2022有点些微贵
但目前签了2Y/26M,也算符合了他的身价
https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1656635321.A.089.html
Count: 49
min $1,782,621.0
25% $4,054,695.0
50% $8,849,071.0
75% $13,839,285.0
max $22,477,273.0
Player Basic Regular Playoff
Tm Salary Pos PER PER
1 Buddy Hield IND $22,477,273 SG 12.9 NaN
2 Tim Hardaway Jr. DAL $21,306,816 SG 12.7 NaN
3 Gary Harris ORL $20,482,143 SG 10.9 NaN
4 Lonzo Ball CHI $18,604,651 PG 14.5 NaN
5 Eric Gordon HOU $18,218,818 SG 12.1 NaN
6 Ricky Rubio IND $17,800,000 PG 14.0 NaN
7 Evan Fournier NYK $17,142,857 SG 12.3 NaN
8 Gary Trent Jr. TOR $16,000,000 SG 14.7 12.4
9 Will Barton DEN $15,625,000 SG 13.4 9.9
10 Duncan Robinson MIA $15,560,000 SG 10.6 13.2
11 Derrick White BOS $15,178,571 SG 14.8 10.1
12 Malik Beasley MIN $14,391,964 SG 11.9 9.0
13 Marcus Smart BOS $13,839,285 PG 13.6 13.1
14 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope WAS $13,038,862 SG 12.6 NaN
15 Luke Kennard LAC $12,727,273 SG 13.3 NaN
16 Terrence Ross ORL $12,500,000 SG 10.0 NaN
17 Jordan Clarkson UTA $12,420,000 SG 14.9 19.8
18 Josh Richardson SAS $11,615,328 SG 12.8 NaN
19 Devonte' Graham NOP $11,000,000 PG 12.1 11.5
20 Reggie Jackson LAC $10,384,500 SG 12.1 NaN
21 Cade Cunningham DET $10,050,120 PG 13.1 NaN
22 Alec Burks NYK $9,536,000 SG 13.7 NaN
23 Talen Horton-Tucker LAL $9,500,000 SG 11.0 NaN
24 Jalen Green HOU $8,992,200 SG 12.5 NaN
25 Monte Morris DEN $8,849,071 PG 14.7 16.1
26 Kemba Walker OKC $8,729,020 PG 13.9 NaN
27 Seth Curry BRK $8,207,518 SG 13.7 16.4
28 Cameron Payne PHO $6,500,000 PG 13.8 3.4
29 Collin Sexton CLE $6,349,671 SG 11.2 NaN
30 Josh Giddey OKC $5,988,000 SG 13.3 NaN
31 Dennis SchrAder HOU $5,890,000 SG-PG 13.0 NaN
32 Patty Mills BRK $5,890,000 PG 10.4 10.7
33 Coby White CHI $5,837,760 PG 12.6 6.5
34 Davion Mitchell SAC $4,603,200 PG 10.8 NaN
35 Lonnie Walker IV SAS $4,447,896 SG 12.3 NaN
36 Kevin Huerter ATL $4,253,357 SG 11.9 7.7
37 Grayson Allen MIL $4,054,695 SG 12.7 10.3
38 Terence Davis SAC $4,000,000 SG 14.6 NaN
39 Chris Duarte IND $3,749,520 SG 12.3 NaN
40 Cole Anthony ORL $3,449,400 PG 13.5 NaN
41 Nickeil Alexander-Walker UTA $3,261,480 SG 10.5 66.5
42 Frank Jackson DET $3,000,000 PG 10.6 NaN
43 Tre Mann OKC $2,901,240 PG 10.2 NaN
44 Ben McLemore POR $2,389,641 SG 11.7 NaN
45 Immanuel Quickley NYK $2,210,640 PG 14.6 NaN
46 Bones Hyland DEN $2,096,880 PG 14.4 13.6
47 Garrison Mathews HOU $2,000,000 SG 11.0 NaN
48 Malik Monk LAL $1,789,256 SG 14.4 NaN
49 Kevin Porter Jr. HOU $1,782,621 PG 13.5 NaN
2. 例行赛PER [15, 20)
这个区间符合条件的人有32个
薪水的中位数是17M
第三个四分位是27M
这个表现的大多数都是球队主力
里面有7个超过3000万的主将
以PER表现来说,只跟其他球队的主力差不多
1) Russell Westbrook 4421万
是这个区间里薪水最高的
这季因为球队战术地位的下降
无法像以前一样在例行赛刷出漂亮的数据
目前有传出要跟KI换
不知道最后结果会怎样
2) Damian Lillard和CJ McCollum这对兄弟
薪水分别是快3934万和3086万
他们这季表现跟之前有点落差
拓荒者在今年决定拆掉双枪也在情理之中
3) Klay Thompson 3798万
这季伤愈复出打得比以往挣扎
但是摊开数据还是能够帮助球队
例行赛20.4分、三分球38.5%
季后赛19分、三分球38.5%
值得一提的是
20年勇士老板在不知道KT受伤的归期以及回来后能剩几成功力的情况下
跟KT签了均薪快4000万的薪水
那时候大家都觉得勇士不太有机会重返荣耀了
但今年的勇士完全跌破了大家的眼镜
4) Bradley Beal 3372万
这季表现没有像他前两季那么猛
但目前已经跟巫师队签下五年2亿5100万的大约
放弃冠军但是领到最多的钱 v.s. 追逐不知道有没有的冠军但降薪
Beal选了前者
以小市场巫师的角度来说,Beal也是不得不的选择
5) Jrue Holiday 3013万
以冠军后卫来说
虽然例行赛表现普通
但季后赛是公鹿队重要的主将
薪水也算符合自己的身价
6) 第7名的D'Angelo Russell拿3001万
今年季后赛表现烂的印象深刻
灰狼之后不知道会不会把他换掉
7)
如果从最便宜的那几个来看
大多数人都是新秀合约
Tyler Herro/Tyrese Maxey/Jordan Poole/Jalen Brunson这几个赛球队里都是主要后卫
轮替
作用差不多,这两年也要签新的合约
未来应该都是2000万up的球员
Jalen Brunson今年就签大约:4Y/104M
https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1656639273.A.A48.html
但不知道这季的表现会不会只是昙花一现
Count: 32
min $1,802,057.0
25% $6,580,660.0
50% $16,821,428.5
75% $27,263,971.0
max $44,211,146.0
Player Basic Regular Playoff
Tm Salary Pos PER PER
1 Russell Westbrook LAL $44,211,146 PG 15.0 NaN
2 Damian Lillard POR $39,344,900 PG 18.5 NaN
3 Klay Thompson GSW $37,980,720 SG 16.7 14.1
4 Bradley Beal WAS $33,724,200 SG 17.5 NaN
5 CJ McCollum NOP $30,864,198 SG 18.3 15.5
6 Jrue Holiday MIL $30,133,333 PG 19.8 13.8
7 D'Angelo Russell MIN $30,013,500 PG 16.3 8.5
8 De'Aaron Fox SAC $28,103,500 PG 17.4 NaN
9 Kyle Lowry MIA $26,984,128 PG 15.0 7.8
10 Malcolm Brogdon IND $21,700,000 PG 18.0 NaN
11 Mike Conley UTA $21,000,000 PG 17.2 8.2
12 Fred VanVleet TOR $19,675,926 PG 17.3 15.7
13 Bogdan BogdanoviA ATL $18,000,000 SG 15.4 15.6
14 Terry Rozier CHO $17,905,263 SG 17.6 NaN
15 Caris LeVert CLE $17,500,000 SG 15.1 NaN
16 Spencer Dinwiddie DAL $17,142,857 PG 15.1 16.6
17 Markelle Fultz ORL $16,500,000 PG 17.7 NaN
18 Norman Powell LAC $15,517,242 SF-SG 16.3 NaN
19 Derrick Rose NYK $13,445,120 PG 16.9 NaN
20 Josh Hart POR $12,000,000 SG-SF 16.1 NaN
21 Anthony Edwards MIN $10,245,480 SG 16.5 17.8
22 De'Anthony Melton MEM $8,805,976 SG 15.2 8.5
23 LaMelo Ball CHO $8,231,760 PG 19.7 NaN
24 Darius Garland CLE $7,040,880 PG 19.0 NaN
25 Hamidou Diallo DET $5,200,000 SG 15.7 NaN
26 Tyrese Haliburton IND $4,023,600 SG-PG 18.2 NaN
27 Tyler Herro MIA $4,004,280 SG 16.2 12.6
28 Anfernee Simons POR $3,938,818 SG 15.3 NaN
29 Tyrese Maxey PHI $2,602,920 PG 16.2 16.9
30 Victor Oladipo MIA $2,389,641 SG 16.8 11.5
31 Jordan Poole GSW $2,161,440 SG 16.1 18.8
32 Jalen Brunson DAL $1,802,057 PG 17.1 20.1
3. 例行赛PER>20
这个区间就是球星和巨星级别
中位数是2176万
第三个四分位是3142万
大部分人都符合自己的身价
比较便宜的 Luka Doncic/Ja Morant/Trae Young/Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
明年开始也都是2800万up
里面只有一个便宜的打工仔Dejounte Murray明年还继续领小于2000万的合约
目前被换到老鹰跟另外一个明星后卫Trae Young组成双枪
https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1644635386.A.9EA.html
Count: 11
min $5,495,532.0
25% $9,888,875.5
50% $28,103,500.0
75% $33,283,400.0
max $45,780,966.0
Player Basic Regular Playoff
Tm Salary Pos PER PER
1 Stephen Curry GSW $45,780,966 PG 21.4 24.4
2 James Harden NaN $44,310,840 PG-SG 20.9 16.8
3 Kyrie Irving BRK $34,916,200 PG 21.4 19.2
4 Devin Booker PHO $31,650,600 SG 21.3 18.0
5 Chris Paul PHO $30,800,000 PG 20.8 22.8
6 Donovan Mitchell UTA $28,103,500 SG 21.6 19.0
7 Dejounte Murray SAS $15,428,880 PG 22.3 NaN
8 Luka Doncic DAL $10,174,391 PG 25.1 28.6
9 Ja Morant MEM $9,603,360 PG 24.4 24.3
10 Trae Young ATL $8,326,471 PG 25.4 5.3
11 Shai Gilgeous-Alexander OKC $5,495,532 PG 20.9 NaN
   
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