Re: [讨论] 2021 NBA历史百大球员排行

楼主: yudodis (Yudodis)   2021-07-25 00:27:47
※ 引述《iammatrix ()》之铭言:
: ※ 引述《rfvtgb (........)》之铭言:
: : 前面我已经有大约的论述,我想MVP是第一大奖没争议
: : 得分王如果这么重要就会帮助你取得MVP.
: : MJ为何无法用得分王x10去辗压别人,
: : 重点是因为他不是10xMVP,若是MJ的得分王都有帮他转换为MVP,
: : 那重点就是10xMVP而不是10x得分王.这道理就和LBJ的亚军一样啊,
: 你这是在诡辩啊
: 得分王跟MVP是分别独立的奖项,判断有各自的标准。
: 什么拿了十个得分王就要10个MVP来证明得分王的重要性
: 这种也讲得出来。
: 大联盟打最多全垒打或是打点最多的一定是MVP吗?
: 难道判断MVP的标准只有得分吗? 当然复杂多了。
: 得分王是一个相对MVP客观的项目,没有经过记者、媒体的好恶评断。
: 表示球员在一个以得分高低判断输赢职业比赛中,
: 实打实的在一个赛季中平均得分赢过同联盟几百个竞争的球员。
: 就算大家再讨厌哈登要饭,他就是有办法要饭要到得分王。
: 更别说有人拿下10次得分王,生涯30分也是史上最高。
: 今年咖哩拿下再度拿下得分王,国外体育网站NBC也写了一篇特别报导
: Steph Curry joins exclusive list of scoring champ legends
: https://reurl.cc/3aW55l
: When it comes to NBA scoring kings, this group is royalty.
: Many players have led the league in scoring, few have done so more than once
,
: and one has done it 10 times.
: The newest member of that group of certified bucket-getters is Steph Curry,
: who on Sunday became just the 18th player in NBA history to win multiple
: scoring titles.
: Curry had 46 points against the Grizzlies to finish the season with an
: average of 32.0 points per game to win his second scoring title. That was
: enough to edge the Washington Wizards’ Bradley Beal, who averaged 31.3
: points and missed three of the last four games of the season.
: Steph joins an exclusive list that includes names like Michael, Kobe, Wilt
: and these other legends….
: 人家说咖哩加入得分王连两次的传奇行列,你说官方没奖项所以不重要。
: NBA没有正式奖项的很多好吗...但是重要的也是会记录。
: https://www.usab.com/basketball/players/mens/j/jordan-michael.aspx
: Michael Jordan NBA Highlights:
: 其中一项 Led the NBA in scoring in 10 seasons, a NBA record, and tied Wilt
: Chamberlain's record of seven consecutive scoring titles.
: 得分王是可以不用拿奖,但是是一个球员生涯一项重要的纪录,
: 认证这个球员的得分实力。
: 去看一堆球员的比较,第一个拿出来比的不就是得分平均多少、累积多少?
: 再来看一下CBS的排名 NBA 史上TOP 15
: https://reurl.cc/xG2Eez
: 1. Michael Jordan
: 1984-93, 1995-98, 2002-04: 30.1 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 5.3 apg,
: 214.0 Win Shares, 5-time MVP, 11-time All-NBA, 6-time champion
: The name says it all. The statistics do, as well.
: Add on:
: six-time NBA Finals MVP, 10-time scoring leader,
: nine-time All-Defensive teamer. And so on. The GOAT.
: 2. LeBron James
: 2003-present: 27.1 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 7.4 apg,
: 236.1 Win Shares, 4-time MVP, 15-time All-NBA, 4-time champion
: James has earned his spot here, and he may not be done. Three more full
: seasons at last year's output, a daunting but not impossible task for a
: 35-year-old all-time athlete in an era of superstars who often defy time,
: would see him pass Kareem as the game's all-time leader in points. He alread
y
: has the eighth-most assists in league history. He could become the first
: player to be a Finals MVP with three different teams. And more rings, of
: course, remain within grasp. An all-timer still carving out his place in the
: game, with only one spot to go.
: 看出两个传奇球员描述的分别了吗?
: LBJ就没拿过多次得分王,叙述就不会注重在上面。(原文3冠改为4冠)
: 乔丹就是有本事拿下10得分王、9防守队。
: 同处一个TIER的上下级别,人家有什么大奖项、特殊纪录你没有,
: 那就是别人比你高一档的本钱了。
没错 完全认同这篇的观点
当大家同处一个级别时,大奖项跟特殊纪录就很重要了
那么nba最特殊的纪录是什么呢?
我想就是打败史上最强队伍还拿到final mvp吧
那史上最强队伍是哪一队呢?
我们不凭感觉、印象,成熟的大人都用数据说话
以胜败场来看,史上最强队伍就是73勇,毫无疑问
而Lebron 率队打败这支最强队伍,除了拿到fmvp外还同时创下
1.史上第一支1-3落后还能在冠军赛逆转的队伍,打败的还是最强队伍,心里素质突破天

2.冠军战五项数据皆是两队最高,比史上最强球队的球员还高
MVP、冠军、得分王...等奖项年年有
但打败史上最强73胜队伍还能创下这些特殊纪录的只有Lebron 一人,MJ从没办到过,甚
至可能后无来者
因此得证Lebron =GOAT
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作者: doooooooooog (腊肠狗)   2021-07-25 00:30:00
好烦,这系列可以停止吗?最后根本也不是讨论了
作者: RobertDeNiro (Robert)   2021-07-25 05:57:00
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