[外絮] 推特AD影片引发马刺迷群起支持Tim Duncan

楼主: pneumo (超☆冒险盖)   2020-12-23 11:02:35
来源: SB Nation
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Tweet hyping Anthony Davis sends Spurs fans rallying to support Tim Duncan
推特Anthony Davis影片引发马刺迷声援支持Tim Duncan
This can most readily be filed under “yeah, right,” but a tweet showing
Anthony Davis hitting a three with the caption “Tim Duncan not doing this”
is being considered a thrown gauntlet on the social media platform.
下面这段推特影片大概可以马上被归类成"喔~是吗?"的类别,但是这段AD投进三分球,并
写着"Tim Duncan做不到这样"的影片被认为是在社群媒体上引战的。
影片: https://twitter.com/i/status/1340368783228080129
A quick read of any of the thousand responses show pretty quickly that this
was not a popular opinion.
随便看一下下面的推特回复很快就会知道那不是大部分人的想法。
Many argue that Tim’s five championships outshine The Brow’s lone ring.
Even deeper, many believe Davis would still be without a title had he not
paired up with LeBron James in Los Angeles last season.
很多人说TD的五冠远超AD的仅仅只一冠。更甚者,很多人相信要不是AD上一季跟LBJ组队,
AD是拿不到那一冠的。
Either way, these discussions are always opinion-based and there is no
clear-cut answer.
不管如何,这些讨论都只是大家意见,这是没有明确的答案的。
Or is there?
还是是有答案的呢?
记者Dan Rather推特: https://twitter.com/DanRather/status/1340888417517727745
"Another one of these who is better “debates?” I can’t believe this folks.
It’s Tim Duncan. No disrespect to others. But it’s sort of a slam dunk.
Goodnight."
“又是另外一个"谁比较强"的讨论。我不敢相信那些家伙。当然是TD,但是没有对其他人
不敬的意思。但是这是明显不过的答案,晚安。”
In a response tweet from Dan Rather, the journalist dismisses the premise,
which is appropriate given Duncan and Davis aren’t even in the same tier of
talent.
从Dan Rather推特来看,若是基于TD跟AD根本不在同一天赋水平上来看,他否决了那推特
的说法也是合理的。
This isn’t defense of The Big Fundamental or a homer backing his team, the
discussion is truly limited to a very elite and small group of revolutionary
players.
这不是在帮TD辩护或者就是支持马刺,而是这个讨论所能讨论到的球员是很小一部分非常
顶尖且革命性的球员。
Tim Duncan is one of these elite players whose talent was immense enough to
build around him a sustainable championship team. The talent wasn’t limited
to a specific time and proved evolutionary as the NBA changed.
TD是几位顶尖球员有着顶级天赋,可以围绕着他打造一支长期争冠能力球队的球员之一,
这天赋不管在NBA史上哪一段期间都可以,而且随着联盟变迁,他的天赋证明也随之进化
的。
That is top tier.
那就是顶尖的。
The term “superstar” gets thrown around these days in relation to players
who win MVP, players who break records, and players who get paid top dollar.
而如今的"超巨"已经被滥用了,球员拿MVP,或者破纪录,或者拿大钱,都算超巨。
But a true superstar is a rare occurrence in the NBA. A transcendent player
comes along once in an era.
但是真正的超巨是极少出现的,那会是一个时代才有一位的杰出球员。
And of those players, Duncan is often overlooked because he was not flashy,
he played for a “boring” franchise, and his coach emphasized defense over
three-point shooting.
而在这些球员里,TD常常因为他不浮夸,他替一支"无聊"的球队打球,以及马刺教练强调
防守而不强调三分球等原因常被忽视。
TD广告影片: https://youtu.be/AnOQWc1ps5w
His talent won championships but didn’t impress fans of explosive,
high-energy, highlight reel basketball.
他的天赋让他拿数座冠军杯,但是没有充满爆发的,高张力的,可以上高光影片的篮球让
球迷留下印象。
Currently, LeBron James is the only top tier superstar in the league. He is
the only player whose game remains competitive throughout years of changes
across the NBA landscape. He remains an anchor for any team who hopes to win
it all. And he is a force on the court.
现今,LBJ是联盟唯一一个顶尖的球员。他是唯一一个经过联盟球风变化这么多年来仍旧可
以保持竞争力的球员,他仍是一个在任何一支想要拿冠军的队伍想要的主力球员,他在场
上仍旧是一股重要的力量。
The rest of the NBA is filled with greatness at varying levels, but none
reaching James’ magnitude. A quick look at the last 20 years of MVPs shows
that some of the best the NBA has to offer were only good in their time, and
some even for a short time at that.
联盟里其他球员在各个程度上都有一些不同的优异表现,但是没有一个有达到LBJ的程度。
就看看过去20年内的MVP就可以知道有一些球员只能在他们的时代能够拿出很好的表现,有
些甚至只能打短短的时间。
Stephen Curry and Kevin Durant are two of the most elite of the last decade,
but couldn’t succeed without one another. (And yes, I know Curry won without
Durant in 2015, but a hobbled Cavaliers team came back full strength and
proved 2015 a fluke.)
Stehen Curry跟KD是过去十年内两位顶尖球员之一,但是两个人没有了对方就不成了。(是
的,我知道SC在2015年在没KD的状况下拿下冠军,但是隔年蹒跚的骑士满血回归,证明了
2015只是运气好。)
James Harden is a former MVP, three-time scoring champion, and one of the
most difficult players to defend and he still can’t get over the hump. Even
pairing him with 2017 MVP Russell Westbrook didn’t yield great results.
胡子是前MVP,3届得分王,最难守的球员之一,但是他至今仍拿不到冠军,即使搭配了
2017年的MVP龟龟仍旧没有好结果。
Kawhi Leonard had the opportunity to become a top tier player, but that has
ship sailed.
可爱曾经有机会成为顶尖,但是那机会已经消逝了。
Giannis Antetokounmpo could be in that league, but the window on his ability
to take a team to the Finals is closing.
字母哥可能有机会,但是他有机会带队拿总冠的时间已经开始越来越短了。
Don’t get me wrong, these are all great players in their own right that any
team would love to have as part of their franchise. But their talent is
limited. In many cases bound by time and place. In other cases the limit is
the player’s own ambition.
不要搞错了,这些都是好球员,许多球队都会想要他们在队上。但是他们的天赋是有限
的,都是得要在特定的时间以及在什么球队。在其他方面,是球员的野心限制了他们。
Stephen Curry is the greatest shooter of all time, but his career would have
been sidelined by injuries (even more so that it has) had he ever had to play
against the late 80s/early 90s Detroit Pistons.
Curry会是史上最佳射手,但是若是他碰到了80-90年代的活塞时,他的职业生涯可能就会
因为伤势的关系常常上不了场。
James Harden spent his offseason being inspired by Damon Wayans’ portrayal
of James “The Grim Reaper” Roper. Not exactly the behavior and discipline
of a player whose game defines and shapes the NBA.
胡子在休赛季期间借由Damon Wayans饰演的重量级拳击手"死神"James Roper得到了启发,
但是他现在行为的以及训练已经不是那个曾经以打球方式改变了联盟的球员。
Some guys don’t have the leadership, some don’t have the drive, some don’t
have the talent, some can’t adjust to the game when it is not going their
way.
有些球员没有领导力,有些球员没有意志力,有些没天赋,有些则是没办法随着联盟生态
改变而去调整打球方式。
Tim Duncan could do all. Nineteen years of relevance, playoffs every season,
five championships, and over one thousand regular season wins.
TD全可以做到,打了19年,年年进季后,5届总冠军,正规赛季胜场超过1000场。
It’s not a viable question. No disrespect to Anthony Davis. The discussion
cannot be argued for any second tier NBA player.
不是要对AD不尊重,这根本算不上个问题,对于第二等级的球员根本不能讨论。
It’s like comparing apples to to a five-course meal.
这就像是拿苹果去跟五道菜肴去比一样。
作者: Redbeansauce (泓豆酱料)   2020-12-23 11:05:00
TD海放好不好......
作者: roger2623900 (whitecrow)   2020-12-23 11:05:00
TD好歹保底历史前十的球星 AD要追还久吧
作者: peanut910013 (123)   2020-12-23 11:20:00
一个打到姆斯转队 一个转去姆斯队 ZZZ
作者: talktomyhand (潮到出汗)   2020-12-23 11:37:00
我大TD就是一堵高墙,你AD还太菜
作者: zse952770030 (HTlan207)   2020-12-23 11:41:00
说真的AD不去抱团 连季后赛都很难
作者: xinov1139311 (马高数狂)   2020-12-23 11:42:00
AD连KG都比不上吧
作者: limitlesscit ( )   2020-12-23 11:43:00
呵呵 败人品
作者: Predrag26671 (这个人非常懒)   2020-12-23 11:44:00
别闹了 AD没有Rondo的话 季后赛一胜都拿不到至少也跟LBJ一样 拿出实绩再来吵历史定位凭AD现在的成就 连Dirk KG都比不上
作者: roger2623900 (whitecrow)   2020-12-23 11:46:00
先不说实力 AD先拿一座MVP再来比吧
作者: Predrag26671 (这个人非常懒)   2020-12-23 11:49:00
真的是在帮招黑耶 都怀疑是不是来反串的了原来要争夺史上第一大前锋的门槛已经是有进季后赛就好 那你知道TD生涯缺席过几次季后赛吗?笑死 没冠跟没进季后赛差不多 有够去脉络化XD
作者: keepstudying (keepstudying)   2020-12-23 11:52:00
没想嫌弃AD,但要不要先拿两三个冠军再来比较?
作者: Predrag26671 (这个人非常懒)   2020-12-23 11:53:00
真的笑死 可以做签名档了
作者: sunnydragon7 (香肠)   2020-12-23 11:53:00
TD招牌:中距离擦板得分太早
作者: Predrag26671 (这个人非常懒)   2020-12-23 11:55:00
照这样说法 马刺也可以吹剔牙哥了人家有AD做不到的一手好钩射 同样也是一冠这样难道就可以说剔牙哥=AD吗?
作者: RisingTackle (拉西吹狗)   2020-12-23 12:00:00
no LBJ, no Playoff
作者: katanakiller (管他去死)   2020-12-23 12:03:00
TD哪会做不到他只是没做而已
作者: ldeathkiller (之之)   2020-12-23 12:03:00
字母才几岁...
作者: skymagic7720 (skymagic)   2020-12-23 12:08:00
哼TD还不是抱腿小跑车跟鬼切(反串
作者: Predrag26671 (这个人非常懒)   2020-12-23 12:11:00
贵古帽子扣起来 都不用提出任何论点了 好棒棒
作者: AnnHeeYung77 (ChuchuHaNi)   2020-12-23 12:13:00
kkb如果不是反串那真的建议尽早看个医生
作者: Trippinglove (Mr.Wang)   2020-12-23 12:13:00
TD完胜AD,完全不用比,等级差太多了
作者: swingingbear (Bear~XD)   2020-12-23 12:16:00
别闹了 一眉跟td 目前为止没得比 一点都没有
作者: Lonely85poly (85波利)   2020-12-23 12:18:00
LBJ:给我TD,我来证明他有多奸诈,把我耍的团团转
作者: adward462462 (奶茶)   2020-12-23 12:20:00
AD几冠??
作者: jailkobe5566 (監獄狗鼻哥)   2020-12-23 12:32:00
1冠抱腿仔敢呛5冠的
作者: walter060613 (无念)   2020-12-23 12:55:00
纯嘘对太阳的TD三分 超干
作者: imjeffreylee (昌)   2020-12-23 12:55:00
Ad比td? 比谁痛的话ad屌赢啦
作者: anderson1979 (spurs win)   2020-12-23 13:19:00
太早?超越?这种跟本不可能的事在水鸟证明了什么?
作者: blastillocal (香酥油炸肥宅)   2020-12-23 13:57:00
连续19年季后赛真的超猛
作者: ENCOREH33456 (XM3)   2020-12-23 14:25:00
一强就是20年真的夸张XD
作者: LatteCat5566 (拿铁猫56)   2020-12-23 21:19:00
AD那什么和TD比? 笑死了

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