真他X的不爽!!!!
一直拿一些赢MJ但大家都不注重的数据来衬托我皇,
然后垫一句"虽然如此, 我还是觉得MJ比较伟大" 就想塞住人嘴巴.
感觉就像是有人一脚重过一脚往MJ海报上踩,
另一边却双手合十向LBJ的海报膜拜.
踩踏完毕还丢下一句 "MJ,你还是比较强的" ,
这样MJ迷会忍得下去吗?!!!
※ 引述《kart (=\)》之铭言：
: 真是够了！嘲笑LeBron在总冠的战绩只有2-4真的是一个
: 最蠢的立论了，而这也是酸民们最新最潮的酸法来捍卫MJ神圣的
: 传奇成就。
: Why is 2-4 so misleading?
: 为啥2-4误导很大？
: Let's count the reasons.
: 我数着数，至少有下列原因。
: 1. Six straight Finals is basically unheard of
: 第一，连续六年进总冠基本上已经接近前无古人。
要比较得过6次NBA Titles, 6次Finals MVP的男人,
却拿连续进决赛的纪录来说嘴是哪招? 就算你连续15年进Finals, 最后只拿3冠3MVP,
成就就是差人一截.
NBA就是个Winners take all的圈子, 要不然, 今年的73胜勇士哪会被酸这么惨?
: Another common barb thrown at James' record is that he's always
: gotten an easy road to the Finals. One pretty big reason for that:
: Of the nine 60-win teams from the East since James entered the
: league, James has been on three of them. Also, the last two 60-win
: East teams James faced in the playoffs? He beat both.
: 另外一个常见的酸点是说LeBron躲东区，进总冠容易啦。
: 但是别忘了一个很重要的原因是，在LBJ进入联盟以来东区的9只
: 60w球队里面，LeBron自己就占了3只。而最近两只东区的60w球队，
: LeBron也都打败了他们
战东区强队的战绩胜率高只能证明LBJ的球队在东区独霸, 跟东区强弱何关?
照这种战强队的逻辑, 不如我们用更高的标准来检视MJ.
以65w以上的强队对战来检视公牛大家说如何?
对决65w球队, MJ是1败0胜 (生涯第二年第一轮对决大鸟).
(不知LBJ生涯第二年的季后赛战绩如何?)
先别高兴太早, MJ整个职业生涯只产生过5次65w以上的强队,
其中3次就是公牛自己本身!!!!
MJ: "要证明能够打赢超级强队, 老子还在苦寻机会啦!"
: The stat you don't often hear is that James has reached the Finals
: in seven of his 11 postseasons, which is astounding to think
: about. At just 31 years old, James has already reached the
: championship round more times than Oscar Robertson, Moses Malone,
: George Gervin, Alex English, Bob Lanier, Dan Issel, Charles
: Barkley, Reggie Miller, Dominique Wilkins, Steve Nash and Yao
: Ming ... combined. Yes, combined.
: 是的，你不会听到人们提到LeBron 11进季后赛里，有
: 七次能打总冠，当你试着去想这项成就时，你会感到很了不起。
: LeBron现在31岁，而他进冠军赛的次数已经超过下面这些名人堂
: 球员加起来还多了：
: 大O，摩斯马龙，冰人，Alex English, Bob Lanier, Dan Issel,
: 老巴, 神米，Wilkins, 奈许和姚明。
: 是的，全部加起来！
以LBJ这种要竞争历史前10球星的身价, 需要拉这批人来救援吗?
前几天不是有人说LBJ的比肩目标应该是魔术?
魔术13年进过9次Finals, 但是好像不大有人会拿这当魔术的成就.
提到魔术, 大家都会想到3MVP, 3FMVP, 5冠, 助攻王, 三双王,
: 2. Michael Jordan "failed" earlier
: 第二，老乔早年也曾经“失败”过
: Critics of James will point to 2-4 as both an indictment on his
: career and a nod of praise to Michael Jordan and his sterling 6-0
: record. By slighting James, it props up Jordan's legacy as the G.
: O. A. T. (Greatest of All-Time).
: 那些用总冠战绩2-4来批评LeBron的人总是不忘提起
: 老乔6-0的总冠"神蹟"。好像把LeBron说得弱一点，就更能
: 捍卫老乔是史上最强球员的地位了一样。
: But a fact that's rarely brought up is that James has missed the
: Finals just four times in his postseason career. By comparison,
: Jordan reached the Finals in just six of his 13 postseasons.
: Framing it another way, James is 7-4 in getting to the
: championship round while Jordan was 6-7.
: 但是事实上，这些人都选择忽略LeBron 11次季后赛里
: 就打了7次总冠，而用这个标准来看，老乔 13次季后赛里面，
: 竟然“只”进了总冠六次，所以这样看来，LBJ反而以7-4领先MJ的6-7。
: What a loser that Jordan guy was! Missed the Finals more times
: than he made it!
: 哇，那个叫乔丹的家伙真是逊啊！竟然进不了总冠的次数
: 比进去的次数还多ㄟ！
再说一次, Winners take all.
要用进总决赛的次数来谈成就,
Elgin Baylor 跟Logo 人肯定是飞天遁地了,
Magic 和贾霸也应该依次来挑战MJ历史第一人的地位.
: After all, James has never lost in the first round of the playoffs
: either (something Jordan suffered three times). And James has
: never been swept in the first round either (something Jordan
: endured twice).
: 毕竟，LBJ在季后赛还没有一轮游过，而老乔生涯前三年
: 的季后赛战绩可是1-9，一轮游了整整三年。包含两次被横扫呢。
LBJ没一轮游过只是因为前两年连第一轮都没办法打,
不要自己画靶自己放靶自己射箭.
: Looking at the Finals, Jordan didn't ever have to face a 65-win
: team, while James has faced two in the last two seasons alone.
: Furthermore, Jordan enjoyed homecourt advantage in five of his six
: appearances, a luxury that James has only had in two of his six
: Finals trips, underscoring that James has overachieved in getting
: to the Finals with subpar rosters.
: 再回头来看看总冠吧，老乔从来没有在总冠遇到65w以上的球队，
: 而LeBron过去两年已经遇到两次。更有甚者，老乔在冠军赛六次
: 里面享有五次主场优势。而LBJ七次里面只有两次。
: 这代表LeBron其实在己队实力略逊的情况下依然能带队进冠军赛
: 并不容易。
如前所述, 公牛自己本身就是3次65w球队,
其他两只65w各出现在他的生涯第二(负)第三年(没遇到),
就算MJ装弱也不保证其他队能超过65w让他有机会证明自己打得赢65w呀!
:
: And yet, people scream and shout that James is a championship
: bust.
: 尽管如此，酸民们依然会大吼大叫着说LBJ就是个亚军咖
: 3. Championship-or-bust mentality is lunacy
: 第三，不夺冠就失败的心态是一种变态。
: Yes, winning the championship is the ultimate team goal. But it is
: not the only goal and it certainly isn't the most important
: individual achievement. Winning the MVP, for instance, is far more
: reflective of a player's accomplishments than touting a
: championship-or-bust stat that is so dependent on supporting cast,
: coaching and plain ol' good luck.
: 是的，冠军是任何一支球队所要争取的终极目标。
: 但是并不是唯一的一个目标，而且它并不是最重要的“个人成就”。
: 事实上，赢得MVP代表的个人成就远比冠军要高。毕竟冠军的成分
: 总是和球队如何息息相关，教练和一些运气成分在里面。
再3提醒, NBA是Winners Take All.
你不是robert horry, 你不是steve kerr, 你是LBJ, 要历史成就爬得更高,
请多拿冠军, 多拿Finals MVP.
:
: By the way, while we're talking about individual achievements,
: have you seen who leads the all-time leaderboard for win shares in
: the postseason?
: 对了，我们现在讲到了个人成就，你有去看看现在
: 史上季后赛win shares最高的球员是谁吗？
: That would be James, who just passed MJ last week. James has
: accumulated 40.1 playoff win shares while Jordan generated 39.8
: with his play, according to Basketball-Reference.com's all-in-one
: metric.
: 那家伙叫做LeBron James，他在上礼拜刚刚超越了老乔，
: 成为季后赛史上WS最高的球员。
: Playoff win shares
: Win Shares
: LeBron James 40.1
: Michael Jordan 39.8
: Tim Duncan 37.8
: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 35.6
: Magic Johnson 32.6
Win Shares是职涯累积数据, 不如比平均数据如何? WS/48 LBJ是多少? 有赢MJ吗?
: This is all not to say James is better than Jordan. That is not a
: discussion we're having today, not when James is 31 years old and
: likely just a little past the halfway point in his career.
: 当然，我说了那么多，并不是在说LeBron比老乔棒。
: 这并不是我们今天所要讨论的，并不是在LeBron还只有31岁，
: 并且还在巅峰的后半段的时候。
我说了这么多, 也不是想证明Lebron有很烂,
毕竟拿了3冠3FMVP, 把它排进历史前10也是很合情合理.
但是作者先生, 你要证明LBJ很强有很多方法, 不需要拿MJ来垫背吧?
一边用你的论点来压MJ帮LBJ抬轿, 另一边又下结论说MJ比较伟大, 是吃了错乱药吗?