[外絮] 键盘球迷分析老大最近为何烙赛

楼主: hitman0527 (990)   2015-11-06 01:59:18
大家好 小弟我无聊爬reddit看到一篇超强分析文章 想说来翻译给大家看看
原文连结 : https://goo.gl/LSKcC9
强烈建议英文够好的板友直接看原文 毕竟小弟我只是无聊翻译
然后也建议大家用电脑看 因为有满多影片支援
以下翻译
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Okay this is pure speculation and I expect the down votes, so while I'm going
down I decided to add some videos
先承认这只是我个人猜测,我也知道自己可能会被嘘,但是趁我还有心写这篇时我就顺
便加个影片给大家看看吧。
When I saw this article(http://goo.gl/5slZIY) about Kobe airballing shots, I
decided to look into it to see if it was going to point out what I saw. Of
course the article says he's missing these shots because he's past his prime,
and I'm not doubting that part. But I'm not entirely sure his body has actually
given up on him. I think Kobe doesn't trust his body so he's trying something
new.
当我看到这篇文章标题后,我决定仔细阅读一遍来瞧瞧作者是否有点出我看到的部分。
当然,文章一直提出Kobe已经老了,体能不在巅峰了,而我也不怀疑。但我也不相信他体
能有糟糕到这种程度。我个人认为Kobe已经开始不信任自己的身体,然后正在尝试一些新
的东西。
I am going to point out something I learned from players like KD and to
some extent Curry.
我在这里要先点出一些我在练习跳投时从KD和Curry身上学到的东西。
Now if you look here you'll find a video of Durant doing the short hop into his
jumper. If you search it online you'll find all the benefits from it.
首先请大家看这部影片 https://goo.gl/B8W5TV 。大家可以看到KD在投篮前会轻轻的跳一
下。如果大家稍为上网查一下可以查到这个小跳跃的种种好处。
Short hop 讲解支援: https://goo.gl/VJbO7x
Short hop vs 1-2 hop讲解支援: https://goo.gl/frzxzg
Here's why the short hop is good:
1. The short hop gives the player more power on his shot
2. The short hop adds to consistency in your shot
3. The short hop helps you shoot faster
以下是为何short step对各位的跳投有帮助:
1. short hop让你出手更有力
2. short hop让你出手更稳定
3. short hop可以让你出手更快
Kobe is famously known as a 2 motion shooter. If you know about 2 motion
shooting then you know it is a much slower shot and for most people there's not
as much power since it's not all happening in one motion. This is something
Kobe has been aware of and with people like Kevin Durant making the short hop
look fantastic out there, it would only make sense that Kobe adds the short
hop into his game, right? And if you go to the article talking about how Kobe
is airballing 3s, you'll see how he's adding the short hop to his game.
Kobe是出了名的二连动做射手(2 motion)。如果你知道二连动做投篮是什么,那你就会知
道这种投篮方式出手动作慢,而且一般人力道也比较使不上来。Kobe当然知道这道理,再
加上KD这么强的射手让short hop看起来那么强,他应该理所当然也会来学一下,对吧?
然后如果你有看刚刚那篇文章在讲Kobe一直面包三分,你也会发现他有学起short hop这
招。
(后面有更多部分会讲解2 motion跟1 motion差别)
But the short hop isn't the problem. As noted here in this video, Kobe Bryant
pretty much added the hop into his game back in 2012. But what's important to
note here is how Kobe borrowed the move from Kevin Durant in the first place.
This is important to my observation.
不过short hop本身并不是个问题。如果你看一下这影片(https://goo.gl/2IHznd),你会
发现Kobe早在2012年就学会这招了。但是重点是大家要注意Kobe从别的球员身上学习了小
技巧,而且用来提升自己的比赛。这对我的观察而言是非常重要的论点。
2012 was also after the Mavs won the title and Dirk received a ton of
recognition for his trademark fadeaway. Shooters saw how dominate he was with
this move so they decided to add it to their game. If you think of the top
players who immediately added it to their game, you see that they were
Durant, Kobe, and Melo.
2012年也是小牛刚拿总冠军那年,然后德佬的招牌金鸡独立大受关注。很多射手发现这招
的强大然后决定也自己学起来。仔细观察一下,最出名的就是KD、Kobe和Melo。
KD影片支援: https://goo.gl/gwVaiX
Kobe影片支援: https://goo.gl/EUaJuU
Now keep this in mind: Kobe is borrowing and using moves of Dirk, Durant, and
all the other legends before...and we can see all of this in the 2011-2012
and 2012-2013 season. Kobe is having success with these moves. But then what
happens?
大家记好这点:Kobe一直从别人身上学到新的招式。先是德佬,再来是KD,在这之前还有
不知道多少位传奇球星。而我们也可以从2011~2012季和2012~2013季看到他新学招式的成
功之处。不过接下来发生什么事了?
In 2013 Kobe goes down with the achilles injury, right? We say he's never
going to be the same, and right now it looks that way. The article talking
about how he's airballing 3s makes it seem that way as well. But there's
something just way different with his shooting now than before...
2013年Kobe阿基里斯腱断裂,对不对?大家都说他无法回到以前那样了,而现在也看起来
是这样。就连刚刚那篇讲他面包三分的文章也是一直这样说。但是Kobe的投球方式感觉跟
以前还是差太多了。
Since his injury there's been one great shooter who's popped up. We all know
who this is. It's Steph Curry. Now, Kobe is the kind of guy who'll see a
great move from a player and just take it because he knows it'll make him
better. Kobe took the short hop from Durant and the fadeaway from Jordan and
Dirk...and a ton of other moves from other players. So what is it that Curry
has that Kobe doesn't?
自从老大受伤后,有一位新起的神射手。他家也知道是谁,就是Curry。所以说,老大是一
个看到对手有强大招式就会学来自几用的球员,因为他知道这样会让自己更强。老大从KD
那里学到了short hop,从德佬那里学到了金鸡独立。所以Curry有什么招术是老大想学的

Curry has a faster release than Kobe. Kobe is a 2 motion shooter while Curry
is a well known One motion shooter. His shooting is all one motion.
Curry的出手速度比老大快。老大是个二连射手,而Curry是一连射手。Curry的投篮动作是
一气呵成的。
Curry 投篮分析:https://goo.gl/UR1Jnz
I think Kobe is struggling with his shot because he's trying to shoot more
like a one motion shooter like Steph Curry. Go to this article on Kobe
airballing shot and watch how Kobe is shooting the ball. Compare that to
Kobe back before his injury in this video on him shooting nothing but 3s.
我认为老大投篮之所以那么差是因为他在模仿Curry的投篮想变成一连射手。大家看这篇
文章的影片然后仔细观察老大的出手动做。http://goo.gl/lN0ORS
然后再跟这篇老大以前的三分出手做比较: https://goo.gl/evXv9U
In the video before his injury you see how Kobe pauses before actually
releasing his shot. This is the two motion shooting. But in the article they
pulled clips of him not doing it as much. It's hard to explain unless you
look at it, but it makes a world of difference. Going from a two motion shot
to a one motion shot isn't that bad if you're just at home practicing,
because you don't have that many variables to through you off. But pulling
that off in game is very difficult because Kobe holding the ball longer in
his two motion shooting helps him aim. If you go from a two motion shot to a
one motion shot at game speed, that's the equivalent of just chucking the
ball up and hoping you make it. That's why Kobe is airballing and missing
what were once easy shots.
在他受伤前的那影片里,你可以看到老大在出手瞬间会在空中滞留一下。这就是所谓的二
连动做投篮。但是在文章里面的影片他停留时间明显短很多。说真的如果你没看影片,这
应该很难懂吧,但是对于投篮而言这真的是天差地别。如果你只是在家练习,从二连变成
一连射手其实也不一定是坏事,因为没那么多变量来干扰你。但是想要在比赛中这样相对
的困难许多。而且老大以前的二连投篮可以让他在空中多一点瞄准的时间。如果你在比赛
时突然变成一连射手,这根本等于你把球往篮框方向丢然后希望你会进个一两颗。这就是
为什么老大一直面包一些本来应该是十拿九稳的空档三分。
The key is to look at how Kobe is missing and not just the fact that he's
missing and I strongly believe that the how he is missing can be attributed
to the fact that he's trying to borrow one motion shooting from Curry. I also
don't think it has much to do with his age and legs because Kobe isn't just
missing shots because they're short..he's completely missing the rim. Age
doesn't do that to you. Not when you practice as much as he does, because if
age was an issue, then he'd more than likely come up short more than
overthrow the shot. But since one motion shooting can extend your range by
giving you more power, it makes sense that he's overthrowing
关键在于仔细观察他时如何投失这些球的,而不是只注意他在打铁。而我满确信老大最近
这么铁的关键就在于他在学Curry的投篮动作。我也不认为是因为是老大老了脚没力才会
这样。因为如果是他老了,那他的球不是应该提早下坠,而不是射过头吗?但是如果说老
大是在尝试一连投篮那就说得过去了,因为一连投篮会让你出手力道增加,而且可以投更
远。(想想Curry的超大号三分球)
More miscellaneous proof If you look at the last video in the article talking
about him airballing, you see him go for a quick release. Signs of quick
releasing in most players is how they don't hold their follow through, but
they don't hold their follow through all the time. It's not situational, so
it's not like they drop their arms off the dribble. But here, Kobe is a
standstill and he's not holding his follow through. In that 3 point shooting
compilation I linked in here, you see him holding his follow through way more
often than not. So why is he not doing it in 2015?
更多细小的证据:如果你仔细看那篇文章的最后一个影片,你会发现老大在那球试着加速
出手。通常加速出手的明显迹象就是球员不会维持他的动作到完成为止(follow through)
。但是这只是通常而以,为什么老大在空档时候也要这样做?在受伤前的三分剪集中可以
看到老大出手动做会做到底(通常是右手继续举著那样)。所以为何老大在本季要刻意加速
他的出手呢?
Also, Kobe, imo, has a low arcing shot. [This was mentioned on this subreddit
last] year, but this guy is saying it just now looks low. To me it's always
looked kind of low. You can't really notice it because of the camera angles
and shooting 3s, but when he shoots 2s, it looks really low. It could also be
because of the fact that he's a 2-motion shooter which requires you to jump
higher to put the ball in...you don't need as much arc for that while shooting
wide open shots (especially when you're 6'6".)
还有老大的投篮弧度一直都很低(去年也有人在本版提过),但是那篇文章作者却认为现在
更低了。我自己一直都觉得很低啦,不过说真的因为摄影角度问题我其实有点看不太出来
。不过在三分线内出手时候就很明显可以看出低弧度了。不过老大今年弧度那么低,也有
可能是因为他本来二连跳投时要跳比较高才会出手。但是你空档时候没必要跳那么高呀,
尤其是以老大6呎7的身高。
Also just watch this video in general to see how Kobe has a true two motion
shot in 2011 and here is slow motion on his shot.
然后大家也可以看这部短片来观察老大的二连跳投。然后另一部是老大的慢动做投球。
影片1: https://goo.gl/GbqzJ5
影片2: https://goo.gl/aH6Poa
tl;dr Kobe is a traditional 2-motion shooter and the reason he's shooting
poorly now is because he's trying to "borrow" another great move to his game:
1-motion shooting (from Curry)
简而言之:老大是个传统的二连射手,然后他今年命中率这么低的原因是因为想把Curry的
新招学起来用(一连投篮)。
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心得:看完这篇 只能说老大真的太敬业了 在联盟打滚20年还是一样活到老学到老
大家还记得去年有新闻说MKG跟骑士传奇射手Mark Price重新学跳投吗?
那时就很多人推说他很赞 肯认真的去跟传奇学习 忘掉自己以知一切然后重学跳投
那老大已经投这姿势20年了 现在想打掉重学...这是要多大的毅力才办得到阿...
阿对了 有错一样欢迎大家指正~
顺便问一下 为什么现在禁止用ppt缩网? 害我改了好久
作者: squall410339 (squall410339)   2015-11-06 06:51:00
还满有道理的,然后练新的东西本来就是要在实战用
作者: swingingbear (Bear~XD)   2015-11-06 07:14:00
比赛中练?这让我想到之前ㄧ个迷迷说练球是要在场下练的神理解
作者: allenallen3a   2015-11-06 08:56:00
虽然曾经有觉得老大是重建的阻碍,但长远看来湖人对球星的尊重,应该也会起到一些吸引自由球员的帮助吧?
作者: helvetia1990 (哈哈宝贝)   2015-11-06 08:57:00
活到老学到老!
作者: swingingbear (Bear~XD)   2015-11-06 21:25:00
那为什么学ㄧ堆命中率还那么烂?邯郸学步 徒具其形

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